Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[he is you know!]

I would love to know, what he has done to upset the hierarchy, as he is our best defender, so can’t see why we are doing our best to get rid of him, seems very strange....

Sorry, how can anyone on here not know by now, been stated numerous times by ITK, he reneged on contract deal Poch backed after agreeing to it. He is the one seeking offers but not getting what he wants.

SC opinion is probably split on keeping him and getting no return or selling him, not sure how this will turn out.

 

[Jaffer99]

Sorry, how can anyone on here not know by now, been stated numerous times by ITK, he went on an contract deal Poch backed after agreeing to it. He is the one seeking offers but not getting what he wants.

SC opinion is probably split on keeping him and getting no return or selling him, not sure how this will turn out.

I think both parties have to take a step back and see the bigger picture, he is our best CB, if poch is getting rid of him just because he went back on an agreement, then poch needs to grow up...

 

[septicsac]

Had an horrendous dream that pool signed him, sorry not dream a nightmare, Toby and van dyke at Centre half would win them the league

 

[Yiddo100]

Hercs itk bit on Toby seems he’s frustrated, maybe there’s an offer on the table but he doesn’t want to leave
Who knows

 

[jt hotspur]

Hercs itk bit on Toby seems he’s frustrated, maybe there’s an offer on the table but he doesn’t want to leave
Who knows

I saw thay as hercs being possed off with maybe where an offer for toby has come from

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Hercs itk bit on Toby seems he’s frustrated, maybe there’s an offer on the table but he doesn’t want to leave
Who knows

Maybe an offer is on the table for a team we would despise him joining and it's being seriously considered? ?

 

[razzmaster]

I think both parties have to take a step back and see the bigger picture, he is our best CB, if poch is getting rid of him just because he went back on an agreement, then poch needs to grow up...

I personally think Verts is our best CB but Toby is very close.

 

[King of the Lane]

What did Herc say about Toby?

 

[Yiddo100]

What did Herc say about Toby?

Nothing really just “Toby (grrh)”

 

[glospur]

I think both parties have to take a step back and see the bigger picture, he is our best CB, if poch is getting rid of him just because he went back on an agreement, then poch needs to grow up...

Hard disagree.

Have you learnt nothing about Pochettino in the time that he's been here? Loyalty and respect are probably the two values that he holds in the highest regard. If it's true that Pochettino went out of his way to get him what he wanted on his deal, only for Toby to then turn around and effectively spit in his face, then Pochettino has every reason to feel aggrieved. It would be insulting.

From what he said at the beginning of last season, they seemed to have mended fences somewhat in regards to him being back in the playing fold, but I can't see a new deal forthcoming.

 

[piedpiper]

Hard disagree.

Have you learnt nothing about Pochettino in the time that he's been here? Loyalty and respect are probably the two values that he holds in the highest regard. If it's true that Pochettino went out of his way to get him what he wanted on his deal, only for Toby to then turn around and effectively spit in his face, then Pochettino has every reason to feel aggrieved. It would be insulting.

From what he said at the beginning of last season, they seemed to have mended fences somewhat in regards to him being back in the playing fold, but I can't see a new deal forthcoming.

If there was a semblance of truth to any of the above why would he be played over 40 games last season?. If Poch was sooo precious on his feelings he would be gone already.

Im just amazed that so many posters take that story as gospel.... There is always two sides to a story. Im very sceptical on that version of events in the absence of Toby's version.

All i know is we have a player who has been brilliant from day one. If any of what you say is true... Then we being childish as a club. You find a middle ground. Would we do that with Kane ? Doubt it. We'd find a middle ground.

The club messed up on the release fee being included in the original contract. He's a defender like Kompany/Vertonghen who you want to see retire at the club. I would honestly give him a 3 year deal and Vertonghen another 1 year deal on top of his existing deal.

 

[glospur]

If there was a semblance of truth to any of the above why would he be played over 40 games last season?. If Poch was sooo precious on his feelings he would be gone already.

Im just amazed that so many posters take that story as gospel.... There is always two sides to a story. Im very sceptical on that version of events in the absence of Toby's version.

All i know is we have a player who has been brilliant from day one. If any of what you say is true... Then we being childish as a club. You find a middle ground. Would we do that with Kane ? Doubt it. We'd find a middle ground.

The club messed up on the release fee being included in the original contract. He's a defender like Kompany/Vertonghen who you want to see retire at the club. I would honestly give him a 3 year deal and Vertonghen another 1 year deal on top of his existing deal.

That's why I said 'if it's true.' Obviously, I have no idea.

However, I think it's reasonable to infer that something has happened, otherwise he wouldn't have been frozen out the season before last, and we wouldn't be facing the prospect of our best players entering the last year of his contract with it looking like there's very little chance he will sign another.

Also, I'd say that IF that story is true, then it's not childish at all from the club to not offer another contract. It's about setting standards and expectations. Again, all of this is speculation because none of us know what's actually happened.

 

[james Stock]

That's why I said 'if it's true.' Obviously, I have no idea.

However, I think it's reasonable to infer that something has happened, otherwise he wouldn't have been frozen out the season before last, and we wouldn't be facing the prospect of our best players entering the last year of his contract with it looking like there's very little chance he will sign another.

Also, I'd say that IF that story is true, then it's not childish at all from the club to not offer another contract. It's about setting standards and expectations. Again, all of this is speculation because none of us know what's actually happened.

Well in reality he was not frozen out, he was injured most of the time and when he came back against Rochdale he had a poor game. He had a serious injury and it took months before he was truly fit.

 

[NickHSpurs]

The thing is Toby is 30 years old, he knows it's the last contract we would offer him at Spurs and there's absolutely no chance we'd offer him more than two years, it might even be a one year extension at his age as we've already seen Danny Rose's comments about us not offering deals to players approaching 30.

He's well within his rights to see if he gets a big money offer elsewhere at a huge club as at his age it's likely the last opportunity he'll get, when he reaches 31/32 it's unlikely any of the elite clubs would look at him even on a free.

 

[piedpiper]

Well in reality he was not frozen out, he was injured most of the time and when he came back against Rochdale he had a poor game. He had a serious injury and it took months before he was truly fit.

Call it what you like... He was frozen out. He declared himself ready which seemed to piss off Poch at the time. We had a Itk can't remember who that actually stated he had played his last game for us.

 

[Japhet]

If there was a semblance of truth to any of the above why would he be played over 40 games last season?. If Poch was sooo precious on his feelings he would be gone already.

Im just amazed that so many posters take that story as gospel.... There is always two sides to a story. Im very sceptical on that version of events in the absence of Toby's version.

All i know is we have a player who has been brilliant from day one. If any of what you say is true... Then we being childish as a club. You find a middle ground. Would we do that with Kane ? Doubt it. We'd find a middle ground.

The club messed up on the release fee being included in the original contract. He's a defender like Kompany/Vertonghen who you want to see retire at the club. I would honestly give him a 3 year deal and Vertonghen another 1 year deal on top of his existing deal.

People tend to believe it because our top ITK, who has an excellent track record, has nailed his flag to the mast and told us this is how it is. IMO that's probably more accurate than an uneducated guess.

 

[blackburn]

Only my view but it seems Toby has painted himself into a corner, he expected a few offers from the top clubs but has realised there's little interest in a 30 year old for £25m. I expect, like Erksen, he'll hang around for 12 months and go on a free.

 

[Timberwolf]

Well in reality he was not frozen out, he was injured most of the time and when he came back against Rochdale he had a poor game. He had a serious injury and it took months before he was truly fit.

Poch definitely froze him out for a while. He was allegedly fit for months and Poch rarely even put him on the bench. That combined with all the rumours about him screwing Poch over a new contract - it was clear something big went down between them.

At the beginning of last season when we neither sold anyone, nor brought in any reinforcements, Poch realised he had no choice but to bury the hatchet and reintegrate some players for the sake of our season. Through a combination of desperation and good management, Poch swallowed his pride and Rose, Toby and even Janssen were given a fresh start.

I don't think this proves Poch and Toby never had any beef, it simply proves that we had to squeeze our squad to the very limit to have any chance of success last season. I also don't think that Toby's reintegration into the team means everything is forgiven. The ITK haven't even given us a whiff of Toby being offered a new contract over the past year. Poch did what he needed to do given the circumstances but he's a man of principle and I don't think he'd go so far as to offer Toby another big contract after what he did last time.

 

[piedpiper]

People tend to believe it because our top ITK, who has an excellent track record, has nailed his flag to the mast and told us this is how it is. IMO that's probably more accurate than an uneducated guess.

Yes I get that... Him playing all those games though flies in the face of all that. An uneducated guess as you call it... Doesn't add up. But I believe in 2 sides to any story. We only hearing the version the club insiders are putting out at this stage.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

Lots of paper talk about Arsenal wanting him. Good chance to keep them on the end of a fishing line and take their eyes off other possible transfers.