Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[Oscar22]

but when is he going to play in that position if Kane stays he ain't getting near centre forward and if he leaves we have to buy and he will remain a bit part player as you can't rely on a striker who scored 1 league goal last season which no matter how unlucky he was are the cold hard facts - so where does that leave him

That’s why I said the only valid concern raised by people is discussing whether he gets to play in that favoured position. However as I also said, I still think he will have more output in the positions he has been playing in if the team is set up to attack.

However, whilst I may not necessarily agree with it, I think if Kane leaves, I’m not convinced the club will try and replace him. I actually think the club will put Richarlison in as Kanes replacement and buy different types of strikers as back up to Richy.

I just don’t see the club taking the money for Kane and then reinvesting it all in a big time player to replace him. I think we will look to upgrade the team in general, and play in a different way.

Am I convinced it’s what we should do? No. Do I think it’s likely? Yes.

 

[Timberwolf]

That’s why I said the only valid concern raised by people is discussing whether he gets to play in that favoured position. However as I also said, I still think he will have more output in the positions he has been playing in if the team is set up to attack.

However, whilst I may not necessarily agree with it, I think if Kane leaves, I’m not convinced the club will try and replace him. I actually think the club will put Richarlison in as Kanes replacement and buy different types of strikers as back up to Richy.

I just don’t see the club taking the money for Kane and then reinvesting it all in a big time player to replace him. I think we will look to upgrade the team in general, and play in a different way.

Am I convinced it’s what we should do? No. Do I think it’s likely? Yes.

I think there's a good chance the club would spend big on a striker if we sold Kane.

Even though we have Richy, would feel weird to sell a truly world class striker for circa 100m and not bring in someone in that position.

At the very least there would be huge pressure on Levy to do so.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

but when he played out wide he was so ineffective - Son even in a poor season still offered a goal threat I don't think Richarlison did or ever will as a wide player

I don’t agree. At the beginning of the season he was making such an impact off the bench that he eventually forced his way into the team (albeit in his least effective position of right wing). And actually put in some decent performances at right wing.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Good player and expect him to be much better under Ange and in Ange's style of football BUT where does he fit?

He’s not ousting Son from LW, unless we sell Kane he’s not getting a go up top, he can’t play n.o10 or 8 and Maddison will be doing that, he’s not particularly great at RW and we should have Solomon in who can play there and ofc Kulu and even Gil.

£60mil is very expensive for a back-up player…

We shall see.

 

[Johnny J]

Good player and expect him to be much better under Ange and in Ange's style of football BUT where does he fit?

He’s not ousting Son from LW, unless we sell Kane he’s not getting a go up top, he can’t play n.o10 or 8 and Maddison will be doing that, he’s not particularly great at RW and we should have Solomon in who can play there and ofc Kulu and even Gil.

£60mil is very expensive for a back-up player…

We shall see.

I agree. Right from when he signed I felt it was more opportunism given Everton's financial situation than because we had a fantastic plan for him. He's a good player but he's not what we need as a wide forward imo.

Happy if he stays, don't mind if he goes. Obviously he's staying tho.

I wish we could ban "Ange's style of football" though, and in fact every derivation of "moneyball".

 

[Japhet]

That’s kinda my point. I was being Sardonic. I’m still angry from the early days of Conte when my opinions were treated with contempt by some on here.

Why worry? I've had it in the neck for opinions such as;

Nabil Bentaleb isn't a future club Captain. Was told that if I couldn't see that I obviously didn't know anything about football.
Jose Mourinho was a **** and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the place.
Conte's wig would blow off in a tantrum and he'd blame everyone but himself and leave us high and dry.

There's only a handful of people on here I pay much attention to.

 

[Japhet]

Good player and expect him to be much better under Ange and in Ange's style of football BUT where does he fit?

He’s not ousting Son from LW, unless we sell Kane he’s not getting a go up top, he can’t play n.o10 or 8 and Maddison will be doing that, he’s not particularly great at RW and we should have Solomon in who can play there and ofc Kulu and even Gil.

£60mil is very expensive for a back-up player…

We shall see.

I think he'll get more minutes than you think once Ange sees how ineffectively Kane and Son press from the front.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I just don’t see where he will fit this season other than as a super sub or occasional rotation for Kane (or more regularly IF Kane gets injured).

He simply doesn’t fit the wide player role in Ange system. That requires pace or dribbling ability/good technique, preferably both. Son and Deki both offer at least one of these qualities and Solomon has both. Gil and Porro are also better suited to that role than Richarlison.

So that means he has to play as a striker but if Kane stays he will get very limited minutes and won’t be happy with that.

 

[rossdapep]

Conte mismanaged most of our players

Yeah I was very surprised actually.

We were all warned he was stubborn but that usually comes with the upside that with a bit of patience the reward is massive.

Unfortunately, Conte just seemed to want to find others to blame and instead of digging in, he checked out and set it on fire.

 

[Danny1]

Good player and expect him to be much better under Ange and in Ange's style of football BUT where does he fit?

He’s not ousting Son from LW, unless we sell Kane he’s not getting a go up top, he can’t play n.o10 or 8 and Maddison will be doing that, he’s not particularly great at RW and we should have Solomon in who can play there and ofc Kulu and even Gil.

£60mil is very expensive for a back-up player…

We shall see.

I actually think this season he could be first “back-up” for all front 3 positions. If Son continues to play poorly as per last season then I can see Richy eventually taking over that spot and then we may have Soloman aswell for another option.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Richy played a lot of games at both LW and CF position and then next season taking the CF position when/if Kane leaves etc and us signing a top level LW to replace Sonny.

Lots of ifs buts and maybes but I think Richy will have enough opportunities this year to try and nail down a position.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I agree. Right from when he signed I felt it was more opportunism given Everton's financial situation than because we had a fantastic plan for him. He's a good player but he's not what we need as a wide forward imo.

Happy if he stays, don't mind if he goes. Obviously he's staying tho.

I wish we could ban "Ange's style of football" though, and in fact every derivation of "moneyball".

And this is also where conte ruins things, he will have wanted him as a versatile forward I his front 3 for squad depth whilst we were in the CL but really he’s not a player that fits particularly well into our squad and into most other managers plans as he’s not a phenomenal striker nor is he a dazzling winger so for £60mil
Unless Kane leaves and richy becomes our n.o9 and is incredible like he can be for brazil then it’s a bit of a waste of money really.

 

[Johnny J]

And this is also where conte ruins things, he will have wanted him as a versatile forward I his front 3 for squad depth whilst we were in the CL but really he’s not a player that fits particularly well into our squad and into most other managers plans as he’s not a phenomenal striker nor is he a dazzling winger so for £60mil
Unless Kane leaves and richy becomes our n.o9 and is incredible like he can be for brazil then it’s a bit of a waste of money really.

Right. He's a good player but I think we could have spent that £60m more usefully.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I actually think this season he could be first “back-up” for all front 3 positions. If Son continues to play poorly as per last season then I can see Richy eventually taking over that spot and then we may have Soloman aswell for another option.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Richy played a lot of games at both LW and CF position and then next season taking the CF position when/if Kane leaves etc and us signing a top level LW to replace Sonny.

Lots of ifs buts and maybes but I think Richy will have enough opportunities this year to try and nail down a position.

I don’t see him continuing to be happy with being ‘1st back-up to all front 3 positions’.

Id seriously consider cashing in and getting 1-2 players who fit better with what Ange wants

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Right. He's a good player but I think we could have spent that £60m more usefully.

Exactly that mate. Anyways I think moving forwards we will make better use of our budget 2-3 signings already all good value and fit for what we need.

 

[tevezito]

I think there's a good chance the club would spend big on a striker if we sold Kane.

Even though we have Richy, would feel weird to sell a truly world class striker for circa 100m and not bring in someone in that position.

At the very least there would be huge pressure on Levy to do so.

But if he already did it a year ago with Richy, why would there be huge pressure on him to do it again? Especially with Scarlett / Parrott waiting in the wings. Richy and Son are our Kane replacements. Everyone blames Levy for having no plan, but if he does it a year in advance, he also gets panned for it. Can't catch a break, can he? Just the odd pat on the knee.

 

[Danny1]

I don’t see him continuing to be happy with being ‘1st back-up to all front 3 positions’.

Id seriously consider cashing in and getting 1-2 players who fit better with what Ange wants

Don’t disagree to be fair. It’s a shame though as there is a player in there that I think could do really well for us.

 

[Timberwolf]

But if he already did it a year ago with Richy, why would there be huge pressure on him to do it again? Especially with Scarlett / Parrott waiting in the wings. Richy and Son are our Kane replacements. Everyone blames Levy for having no plan, but if he does it a year in advance, he also gets panned for it. Can't catch a break, can he? Just the odd pat on the knee.

Because Richy was bought as a Kane backup/LWF rotation and both Scarlett and Parrott struggled on loan and aren't ready yet. Given how poorly Parrott did at Milwall, I don't think he's going to make it at Spurs and Scarlett needs at least a season or two more to develop - neither are close to PL-ready atm. Even if we used Rich as our first choice 9 we'd still need another forward option I think, or at least a top class wide forward to rotate with Son if he were to become Richy's backup.

Not to mention the huge pressure from fans and the media to at least sign some kind of forward. If Levy sells the best striker the club has ever had then doesn't even bring in another exciting attacker he'll get so much shit.

 

[rossdapep]

Just in case there were any doubts.......Richarlison WAS a Conte signing.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Just in case there were any doubts.......Richarlison WAS a Conte signing.

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It was said at the time Conte specifically wanted him. There are quotes that came out later from Conte saying he wanted him as well.

Doesn't stop fans making their own anti-Levy narrative up about the signing though.

 

[gavspur]

What’s more telling in that quote is the ‘they sent him away’.