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Styopa

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I wonder if it’s the fact we would be signing him from Everton rather than somewhere like Inter or Madrid that puts some people off? Generally speaking I think most fans would be really excited at the prospect of signing a full Brazil international with 14 goals in 36 matches since 2018. He’s an important player for arguably the best international team in the world and the World Cup favourites. But Everton are not a very glamorous team and Richarlison has been knocking around in teams in the lower echelons of the league for years now.

Personally I think signing players from other Premier League clubs is an advantage when the quality is there because it means there is no climatisation period to a new league. Things don’t always work out at a new club but at least you know the player can do it in this league which is not always the case with players from France, Italy, Spain etc.

The other thing that stands out to be about Richardson is that he was a key player at Everton and central to them staying up last season. He scored 6 goals in his last 9 matches. That shows to me that he is ready to step up and take responsibility and lead a team. By contrast Bergwijn has never proven that he is capable of being a key player in the Premier league. Maybe if he moves to another English club where he is played more he will establish himself and be just as effective as Richarlison. But at the moment he’s only potential.
 

iddebu52

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I think more people are put off by his antics than his ability. I have to admit it's taken me a while to get fully on board with him signing for us.

Now we won't see Romero kick the living shit out of him when they meet any more, that was one of the highlights of last season!
He'll kick Gabriel instead don't worry, if that makes you happy ?
 

samspurs92

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I think it’s important to recognise his impact in a completely shit Everton team. If you were playing Everton last year, you basically had to stop Richarlison to stop them scoring.

I think he will be completely different for us as he’ll be playing in a much better team but also because of the space he’ll have due to defenders trying to mark Kane/Son/Kulu as well as Richarlison.

It’s really exciting.
 

KILLA_SIN

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I like Richarlison but for the rumoured prices would really be on the basis that we think his potential in a better team is higher vs buying him just to replicate his career form so far
From the everton forum
Salah and Mane play in the same team with some of the other best players in the world. Richarlison plays with Andros Townsend, Seamus Coleman and Rondon.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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If Everton have to do business by the end of tomorrow it would be nice to see a story of Richarlison going for a medical today but so far it seems a deathly silence.
 

KILLA_SIN

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What makes Richarlison a great player that a top club would sign?

His work rate, his skill, the fact he's Brazil's number 9, the fact he draws so many fouls, the fact he's a **** to play against, the fact that he generally GETS the club he plays for,he scores all different kinds of goals and he creates. He's still a very good age. He leaves everything on the pitch. Need I go on?

So he's found his level. A shot at the top 4 and a run in the CL. Better than he's ever getting here but less than I reckon he thought when he decided he wanted out.

This Brazil number 9 shit is a load of bollocks, he's a good player but not a great player like the real Ronaldo etc.

That lazy **** Lukaku was a bigger loss.

I don't know any player as good as R9

You asked for reasons keV, don't act the big fucking I am if you don't agree with the reasons. How many players have been Brazil's 9? Not too many.

Yes, all top teams need players that draw fouls. It gives them more chances to create goals. Simple right?

Just ignore all the other credible parts.

Richarlison has everything in his locker to become a top player. He was never going to do it at Everton, as we are fucking losers with no direction.

I reckon he'll do well, if not spectacular, and benefit greatly from playing in a much better side.

Your dislike for Richarlison also comes across as really personal. It’s like you took it as a personal sleight from him when you made that ludicrous “all he does is work hard and scores goals” comment and got (rightfully) ripped to bits for it.

Jev thinks that Andros Townsend is an all time great player and miles better than Richarlison simply because he scores better looking goals
If you think I’m joking due to the sheer ridiculousness of what I’m saying then read back through the thread and you’ll see that I’m not

Every player loses the ball at times when trying to take a player on. The only exception to the rule of hardly getting dispossessed without getting fouled is messi.
Richarlison loses the ball or gets fouled because he's always trying to be positive and has been our best chance at getting forward to create anything.
He's not a good player he's a fucking boss player.

So richarlisons price on what we want for him is unrealistic yet you currently value Gordon at 50 Mill even though he had a decent season, I wouldn't even say he had a great season because his stats which you love to bang about with regards to richarlison is below average. I know he's young but when you're touting a 50 Mill fee you expect at least 10 goals and a decent amount of assists.
When is it going to sink in that you are in a very small minority in people who don't rate him at the level he actually is? Most people can see it, this isn't bias because Evertonians are the first to rip into players who don't cut it, aren't good enough, aren't doing enough.
And why can't we use he's brazils no. 9 as one reason why he's boss? Brazils always have boss forwards first and foremost and the fact that he's their main cf speaks volumes of how good he actually is. It's actually demented how some of our fans who see him play week in week out still don't rate him as high as he should

Most of the negative posts are one one poster Kev1


Reading that shite would put anyone off signing up. Imagine having that much keV in a day.

A man that went on national radio saying how the club should stick by Benitez long term and then 2 weeks later was on here calling for him to be sacked haha
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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I think the offer was £20m plus Bergwijn and if thats true then we are valuing Richarlison at £50m I'm guessing
It said a £20 million offer that includes Steven Bergwijn but your interpretation does make more sense, I guess they just worded it poorly.
 

freeeki

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Aug 5, 2008
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Most of the negative posts are one one poster Kev1

Most of the negative posts about Richarlison on here are from a very very small handful of posters, too.

Makes sense - there's very little to criticise from a footballing perspective.

The way some folk are going on, you'd think part of the deal was that they have to let him come round and rail their wives ffs.
 

ShelfWatcher

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I wonder if it’s the fact we would be signing him from Everton rather than somewhere like Inter or Madrid that puts some people off? Generally speaking I think most fans would be really excited at the prospect of signing a full Brazil international with 14 goals in 36 matches since 2018. He’s an important player for arguably the best international team in the world and the World Cup favourites. But Everton are not a very glamorous team and Richarlison has been knocking around in teams in the lower echelons of the league for years now.

Personally I think signing players from other Premier League clubs is an advantage when the quality is there because it means there is no climatisation period to a new league. Things don’t always work out at a new club but at least you know the player can do it in this league which is not always the case with players from France, Italy, Spain etc.

The other thing that stands out to be about Richardson is that he was a key player at Everton and central to them staying up last season. He scored 6 goals in his last 9 matches. That shows to me that he is ready to step up and take responsibility and lead a team. By contrast Bergwijn has never proven that he is capable of being a key player in the Premier league. Maybe if he moves to another English club where he is played more he will establish himself and be just as effective as Richarlison. But at the moment he’s only potential.
For me Stevie B is a good player, hence my reluctance over Richarlison
But if he joins will wish him well, just not convinced he adds more than SB
 

GutBucket

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He proved he can score 10 goals with 0 creativity in the team and will have good re-sale value, very little risk even for 50-60m.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Most of the negative posts about Richarlison on here are from a very very small handful of posters, too.

Makes sense - there's very little to criticise from a footballing perspective.

The way some folk are going on, you'd think part of the deal was that they have to let him come round and rail their wives ffs.
Their wives would probably let him in front of them

I don't think Richarlison is a Tier 1 Striker, like Son and Kane but put him in the lineup with a better players I think he will see a lot more output, Also I think hes good as we are going to get for a player to fill in for Kane/Son and work in that front 3
 

Timberwolf

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For me Stevie B is a good player, hence my reluctance over Richarlison
But if he joins will wish him well, just not convinced he adds more than SB
I like Stevie B but I'd be stunned if Richarlison didn't get more than 4 goals and 2 assists in all competitions next season. For all his potential, that's the actual input we get from Bergwijn.
 

bigfrooj

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I wonder if it’s the fact we would be signing him from Everton rather than somewhere like Inter or Madrid that puts some people off? Generally speaking I think most fans would be really excited at the prospect of signing a full Brazil international with 14 goals in 36 matches since 2018. He’s an important player for arguably the best international team in the world and the World Cup favourites. But Everton are not a very glamorous team and Richarlison has been knocking around in teams in the lower echelons of the league for years now.

Personally I think signing players from other Premier League clubs is an advantage when the quality is there because it means there is no climatisation period to a new league. Things don’t always work out at a new club but at least you know the player can do it in this league which is not always the case with players from France, Italy, Spain etc.

The other thing that stands out to be about Richardson is that he was a key player at Everton and central to them staying up last season. He scored 6 goals in his last 9 matches. That shows to me that he is ready to step up and take responsibility and lead a team. By contrast Bergwijn has never proven that he is capable of being a key player in the Premier league. Maybe if he moves to another English club where he is played more he will establish himself and be just as effective as Richarlison. But at the moment he’s only potential.
Bergwijn won the Leicester match for us when all was lost ultimately giving us Champions League football. I want Richarlison here and I'm happy to let Bergwijn go if he doesn't want to stay but it doesn't change the fact they are two very good offensive players.
 

KILLA_SIN

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I mean the absolute minimum we will get from Richarlison is 10 Goals a season. With more chances, more creativity, playing with Son/Kane/Dejan I can see him getting 15 goals is that worth 60M, I think it is if he also has to fill in for Kane/Son for any extended period of time if they are injured
 

freeeki

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Their wives would probably let him in front of them

I don't think Richarlison is a Tier 1 Striker, like Son and Kane but put him in the lineup with a better players I think he will see a lot more output, Also I think hes good as we are going to get for a player to fill in for Kane/Son and work in that front 3

I can't remember who it was but someone pointed out yesterday that Richarlison's PL output in his first 4 seasons at Everton is almost identical to Son's first 4 seasons at Spurs.

Richarlison: P 135, G 43
Son: P 130, G 42

The only difference being that Richarlison joined Everton aged 21, Son joined us aged 23

Whether he's a tier 1 striker at this point is open for debate, but for me it's without doubt he has the potential to be. Look at what Conte has done with Doherty and Davies. Now imagine what he can do with Richarlison.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Bergwijn won the Leicester match for us when all was lost ultimately giving us Champions League football. I want Richarlison here and I'm happy to let Bergwijn go if he doesn't want to stay but it doesn't change the fact they are two very good offensive players.

That game was the beginning of the end when it came to my relationship with my ex.

I was working from home, promised her a remote movie night and forgot this was one. Had it on in the background whilst having a video call with her during movie night. When both goals went in I couldn't control it, from there on things seemed to go nowhere but South for all sorts of reasons.

Thanks Stevie.??
 
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