Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

[Hertsspur10]

I respect it. Told he wasn't good enough so used it to light a fire and play a pivotal role helping the team get promoted.

 

[Trix]

I respect it. Told he wasn't good enough so used it to light a fire and play a pivotal role helping the team get promoted.

Was he told he wasn't good enough, or that he had the wrong attitude to make it?

 

[Mr Pink]

He should be acknowledging the good advice he got!

Taken it on aboard? Fair play. Don't pretend that you didn't need to pull your socks up though lol

 

[Hertsspur10]

Was he told he wasn't good enough, or that he had the wrong attitude to make it?

"I basically said to him that you can go to the top or you can go non-league.'

I do think a lot of credit is owed to Steve Cooper for how his seasons turned out too.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

I respect it. Told he wasn't good enough so used it to light a fire and play a pivotal role helping the team get promoted.

He wasn’t told he weren’t good enough, Warnock actually said he could go to the very top but his attitude could mean he ends up non league.

Djed is clearly a talented player but he has to have the brains to or it’s useless.

 

[Trix]

He wasn’t told he weren’t good enough, Warnock actually said he could go to the very top but his attitude could mean he ends up non league.

Djed is clearly a talented player but he has to have the brains to or it’s useless.

Indeed.

Warnock clarifies Djed Spence's situation while discussing younger's vast potential

Middlesbrough defender Djed Spence will have a protective face mask fitted for Saturday’s meeting with Bristol City after breaking his nose against Millwall.

www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk

So is the tweet still as justified to some of you?

Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I'm not convinced he's good enough anyway, but this isn't the way to prove an ex manager who said you were super talented but lacking in mentallity to get to the very top wrong.

 

[mil1lion]

Warnock is a twat so I'll allow it

 

[Johnny J]

Indeed.

Warnock clarifies Djed Spence's situation while discussing younger's vast potential

Middlesbrough defender Djed Spence will have a protective face mask fitted for Saturday’s meeting with Bristol City after breaking his nose against Millwall.

www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk

So is the tweet still as justified to some of you?

Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I'm not convinced he's good enough anyway, but this isn't the way to prove an ex manager who said you were super talented but lacking in mentallity to get to the very top wrong.

Agreed. If anything it shows Warnock was right. And it's not like Warnock said he wouldn't make it. Just that if would be a shame if he didn't, and could go either way. Still might.

 

[Ben1]

Indeed.

Warnock clarifies Djed Spence's situation while discussing younger's vast potential

Middlesbrough defender Djed Spence will have a protective face mask fitted for Saturday’s meeting with Bristol City after breaking his nose against Millwall.

www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk

So is the tweet still as justified to some of you?

Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I'm not convinced he's good enough anyway, but this isn't the way to prove an ex manager who said you were super talented but lacking in mentallity to get to the very top wrong.

Yes, because those aren’t the comments he’s responding to from the summer before his loan?! Clearly something happened in that time.

 

[Trix]

Yes, because those aren’t the comments he’s responding to from the summer before his loan?! Clearly something happened in that time.

And the quotes he's responding to Warnock says he isn't good enough ability wise to make it?

Edit: are they these quotes?

Neil Warnock explains why he let Djed Spence join Forest

The former Boro boss sanctioned Djed Spence's loan move to Nottingham Forest

www.nottinghampost.com

Because if so I still think he's acting like a brat.

 

[codspur]

Like DJed prefer Tariq

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Again, there’s no Perisic or Kostic present in the RWB market. People are saying we need better, well there’s no one out there who would be less of a risk than Spence that we could realistically sign. Because for the millionth time, we’re not signing Hakimi. You’d also have to make a compelling argument for Carrasco who many want, because he has barely played RWB in his career. Please enlighten me with who people think is better, and I assure you it’s not a black and white difference between Spence and any other potential target. Either way, if we sign him, I’m confident it will be because Conte wants him, which is all that matters.

I do think Carrasco could be an interesting idea, not sure he’d be my number one pick but as he’s done very well on left, if anyone could make him work it would be Conte. For me i could see Conte turning him into another Perisc as he clearly has the skill set. It would be a gamble tho and as I say, not an obvious one. Beyond that my number one pick is Frimpong and has been for most of the season. He’s the same age as Spence but to me looks the better prospect by some distance. Your spot on about there being no clear choice of player that is available who would easily elevate us tho and obviously if Conte really wants Spence who am I to argue.

 

[rambu]

Attitude or not aside, if he’s not good enough now then we don’t have the time to train a project - if he’s always considered a loan-out type then ok, if not please go with the one with the goods now. Still hoping to get both Perisic(rwb) and Kostic (lwb), which looks unlikely now…

 

[Pebble Dash]

Spence is an attacking wing back, Warnock played ultra defensive boring football. Not much different to Spurs under Nuno. Forest have let Spence express himself, similar to Conte with our players and look at the result… they’ve massively improve all-round.

 

[rebrab]

Personally very keen on Spence. There’s huge upside, and having a player with that kind of pace means we’ll be able to push a higher line next season. In games we’re struggling to break teams down, the below would be very helpful:

• Option to have a higher line
• Aggressive dribbler at RWB
• Extremely productive Perisic at LWB
• Aggressive passers at RCB (Romero) and LCB (Bastoni?)
• Creative midfielder (Eriksen)

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Feel like this would be buying Nathaniel Clyne when we really should be looking for our Alexander-Arnold.

 

[Bulletspur]

Feel like this would be buying Nathaniel Clyne when we really should be looking for our Alexander-Arnold.

You mean the same Arnold that Sessegnon had in his pocket ?

 

[barry]

My younger self (and probably many of you, too) would do the same if an out of touch dinosaur publicly passed judgment on me and I felt aggrieved by it.

My older self would do the same. Nothing beats a bit of snide. I'm not the Buddha.

I don't know. I get what everyone's saying re: wanting to prove a point, and having an edge to him, etc. And fine, not a huge deal. But there's something different about calling out randos on twitter/instagram over their criticism and calling out a manager who has told you some home truths (and who could have be proved to correct in doing so). If he can't handle Warnock calling him out on what he needs to do better, how will he take Conte's micro-management.

I think you might be taking it a wee bit too seriously. Who gives a shit really.
Just a bit of fun and it wasn't particularly offensive.
Unless the kid was a right twunt, if I was Warnock I'd right back, "I'm glad you proved me wrong, make sure you don't prove me right during the rest of your career, all the best"

 

[Pebble Dash]

You mean the same Arnold that Sessegnon had in his pocket ?

and the same Arnold who was diabolical in the Champions League final

 

[cider spurs]

You say it best, when you say nothing at all.

Love Ronan. ?