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[HodisGawd]

No, it's just people taking offence to a word without the context it's used with. Beast is not an offensive word alone and in fact is often used in context of a compliment due to someones physical nature. Nothing more needs to be made of it.

No one said it is an offensive word on its own. Perhaps read the points made above and then you will understand why in certain contexts it can be offensive.

Offensive or not, it's lazy.

 

[FrankSpencer]

In the sporting sense, someone quoting ‘beast’ always led me to believe it was someone doing something very impressive in the moment or over a period of time (i.e. Son scoring a hat trick at Burnley was ‘beast’ mode for that game, or Ronaldo scoring 60 goals in the 11/12 season at Real Madrid was ‘beast’ mode over the longer period)!

 

[tevezito]

I've just had a beast of a shit.

A white shit? You should see a doctor mate.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Would love to hear the views of our black members on this issue

 

[Cochise]

"Beast Mode" used to be a phrase I heard quite often. I'm more likely to call someone a "machine" than anything else when it comes to describing their physical prowess.

 

[Col_M]

Why can't you turds understand that using that term is offensive to some of your community. Using it doesn't make you racist, and being told by someone that they find it offensive doesn't make them the language police. But using the term to spite people makes you out to be a twat. Grow the feck up and have some respect for people's feelings.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

Can everyone that wants to continue the language discussion go into a different thread so we can continue talking about our boy here?

 

[mil1lion]

No one said it is an offensive word on its own. Perhaps read the points made above and then you will understand why in certain contexts it can be offensive.

Offensive or not, it's lazy.

The points raised were not relevant to the context the poster used it in though. Yes obviously it can be used badly in certain context like many phrases could but this was not one of them. Therefore I have no idea why this has been raised here. Its just creating unnecessary friction. Everyone knows full well the context the word was being used.

 

[mil1lion]

Why can't you turds understand that using that term is offensive to some of your community. Using it doesn't make you racist, and being told by someone that they find it offensive doesn't make them the language police. But using the term to spite people makes you out to be a twat. Grow the feck up and have some respect for people's feelings.

 

[SpursSince1980]

"Beast Mode" used to be a phrase I heard quite often. I'm more likely to call someone a "machine" than anything else when it comes to describing their physical prowess.

Originates from a Seattle Seahawks running back, Marshawn Lynch. I don’t recall whether he coined it or local commentary. It was after he made a long run during a playoff game. The stadium got so loud it registered on the Richter Scale. The first time I heard that phrase it was in reference to Lynch going into full beast mode as he beat five or six tackles and dragged like seven of their defensive dudes with him.

First time I heard a player described as a beast was Zach Thomas of the Miami Dolphins. Many moons ago.

That said, can totally see how certain terminology creeps into unconscious “biases”. Which I truly don’t like as a phrase, as bias is technically correct but it’s also very loaded.

 

[easley91]

Bloody hell , never would find the word beast offensive myself. Always makes me think of the beast incarnate

My go to response when someone says beast. Referred to many white athletes over the years as a "beast". To me it was just referencing their athletic ability as a stand out in their field and nothing more.

 

[Spurs4CL]

Why can't you turds understand that using that term is offensive to some of your community. Using it doesn't make you racist, and being told by someone that they find it offensive doesn't make them the language police. But using the term to spite people makes you out to be a twat. Grow the feck up and have some respect for people's feelings.

Where's the line then? If one person finds a term or phrase offensive we all have to stop using that term or phrase, even thought it's in no way racist/homophobic/hateful in any way?

There are people that are offended by swearing, does that mean you're gonna stop calling people twats and have respect for their feelings?

Doubt it.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

People are offended by beast mode? Lmaoooo wow

 

[thecook]

I guess as fans then we all owe a collective apology to Sandro.

 

[mil1lion]

People are offended by beast mode? Lmaoooo wow

There's a campaign to rename Beauty and the Beast to Beauty and the hairy being

 

[Bigdaddyguff]

What about "monster" ? What colour are they ?

 

[Col_M]

Ok. Enjoy yourselves but please put the Lego pieces back in the box before one of you chokes on a block.

 

[Spurs4CL]

Ok. Enjoy yourselves but please put the Lego pieces back in the box before one of you chokes on a block.

Bore off . Enjoy being offended on behalf of the unoffended black community to score internet points. Prat

 

[MichaelPawson]

Why can't you turds understand that using that term is offensive to some of your community. Using it doesn't make you racist, and being told by someone that they find it offensive doesn't make them the language police. But using the term to spite people makes you out to be a twat. Grow the feck up and have some respect for people's feelings.

I couldn't agree more with you. The tone in this thread has become incredibly disingenuous, and I think a lot of people posting in here should approach topics like this with a lot less arrogance.

When people get called out on using coded language, a lot of times their first response is to plead ignorance. And to a certain extent, I think it's fair to cut people some slack if that's their defense- language is constantly shifting, and different words mean different things to different people with different experiences. It's the human condition that we all can't 100% relate to everyone else's experience with life, and if we're going to connect with one another in any sort of constructive way, we need to understand that not everyone is going to understand things like coded language in the same way.

But razor1981 made an excellent post where he explained the exact nature of why people object to this kind of language, and actually referenced professionally conducted studies to back his point up. And the response by and large by posters in this thread is to completely ignore it, and to pretend like this is still a great big mystery to them. Ignorance is not a defense you can use twice- once it's explained to you, you're not unclear on anything, you're just actively refusing to engage in examining your language. A generous reading of this situation is to call that kind of thinking dishonest and lazy; I'm not feeling very generous today, though, so I'm just going to assume that the folks doubling down on this right now are simply bigots, and I'll read all of their subsequent posts on any topic through that lens.

 

[npearl4spurs]

This is just weird and boring now. Can’t we just talk about Destiny…as Ange says, “Just be decent human beings.”