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Player Paulo Dybala

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If fact Juve keeps winning the league for years now means other italians teams are shit, so are we as we can't win anything (and following your logic it means were shit too). Or BVB. Or Madrid. Stop being so short-sighted.

Not saying that the competition is shit, just it's a bit of a one horse race
 

hughy

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For me Dybala makes absolute sense because, and I know it’s not a popular opinion here, Alli is easily the most upgradable player in our attacking line up.

I said it about Dier as CM 12 months ago and was shouted down by some but it’s become more obvious to others now.

A forward line of Son Kane Dybala would be Poch’s dream line up. Then you have Eriksen and GLC alternating for that other role.

For me Alli is the weak link and has been for 12 months now. I just don’t think his all round game fits into the attack of an elite side.

Put it this way, could you see Son or Kane playing for Real Madrid or City or Barca? Yes I could. Could you see Alli though? Not a chance.

That’s not to write Alli off, and if he comes back into form he’s a talent, but I struggle to see how he really fits into a slick dynamic attack which pretty much all elite sides now field.

Going into this season he’s sticks out like a sore thumb as the one we could easily upgrade on with a top talent like Dybala, and I’m sure that is Poch’s dream too.
Maybe we should just ditch every player who's form dips for half a season? If that was the case we wouldn't have Vertonghen, Lloris or Rose in our squad for the last couple of seasons because they've all been through spells of poor form in their Spurs careers.

Dele is 23 years old. In the 2016-17/2017-18 seasons he scored a combined 36 goals. You don't "upgrade" a player like that because they've had a single season disrupted by injury and poor form.
 

Martin91

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Whilst I kind of agree with you (hard not to given his form ) yu have to remember the Home Grown rules in all of this.

I think that we forget how young Dele is...
Also got injured in the WC did not have a full pre season, look as if he was carrying the injury for most of the season, then playing out of position, picks up another injury which he carries on playing with and then when he was actually put back into his best position he showed his quality!
 

Gbspurs

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Dele is one of our most exciting players. He is capable of winning games from nothing and has ability beyond anyone else in our sqaud. On top of that he is young, homegrown and seems to like it here.

We would be crazy to even try and "upgrade" him. Poch and the team should be working to try and find a way to get the best out of him. I think the issue is he was best in the advanced 10 role but Kane has taken that by coming deeper meaning Dele has also moved deeper. It doesn't work well for him being in a disciplined midfield position.
 

Timberwolf

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Defo one sided but that doesn't make all the other teams complete shit. As far as I remember we haven't won the league in a while - does that make us a bad team?
 

james Stock

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For me Dybala makes absolute sense because, and I know it’s not a popular opinion here, Alli is easily the most upgradable player in our attacking line up.

I said it about Dier as CM 12 months ago and was shouted down by some but it’s become more obvious to others now.

A forward line of Son Kane Dybala would be Poch’s dream line up. Then you have Eriksen and GLC alternating for that other role.
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For me Alli is the weak link and has been for 12 months now. I just don’t think his all round game fits into the attack of an elite side.

Put it this way, could you see Son or Kane playing for Real Madrid or City or Barca? Yes I could. Could you see Alli though? Not a chance.

That’s not to write Alli off, and if he comes back into form he’s a talent, but I struggle to see how he really fits into a slick dynamic attack which pretty much all elite sides now field.

Going into this season he’s sticks out like a sore thumb as the one we could easily upgrade on with a top talent like Dybala, and I’m sure that is Poch’s dream too.

If a young player is going to have a dip in form it usually occurs after a period of success. Dele started the season soon after the World Cup. His form was patchy but the same could be said about Eriksen. He played many games with strapping on his thigh, almost had his leg broken by Evertons keeper, then sustained a serious injury against Fulham.

In stark contrast to previous seasons he spells out and was lacking fitness. Aside from all of that he has a good understanding with Kane and like Eriksen he changed his game to cover the loss of Dembele . Every time Eriksen ran 14 kms Dele turned in similar numbers, but no worries just keep the blinkers on, your eyes will adjust in due course .
 

austinfh

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Dele’s ability to create space for others, as well as ghost into the box to make scoring chances for himself, is a unique and very exceptional talent. Not to mention the fact that last season he often had to play deeper because of our midfield issues. He’s another one who will benefit from Ndombele/Lo Celso coming in and I’m sure he would work well with Dybala in the unlikely event that he signs.
 

nailsy

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For me Dybala makes absolute sense because, and I know it’s not a popular opinion here, Alli is easily the most upgradable player in our attacking line up.

I said it about Dier as CM 12 months ago and was shouted down by some but it’s become more obvious to others now.

A forward line of Son Kane Dybala would be Poch’s dream line up. Then you have Eriksen and GLC alternating for that other role.

For me Alli is the weak link and has been for 12 months now. I just don’t think his all round game fits into the attack of an elite side.

Put it this way, could you see Son or Kane playing for Real Madrid or City or Barca? Yes I could. Could you see Alli though? Not a chance.

That’s not to write Alli off, and if he comes back into form he’s a talent, but I struggle to see how he really fits into a slick dynamic attack which pretty much all elite sides now field.

Going into this season he’s sticks out like a sore thumb as the one we could easily upgrade on with a top talent like Dybala, and I’m sure that is Poch’s dream too.

Son could play for one of those sides now, but was he ready at Dele's age? Probably not.

Having an alternative option to Dele isn't a bad idea though. Player usually get better through competition and it would certainly help us as a squad to have better options.
 

Primativ

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Maybe we should just ditch every player who's form dips for half a season? If that was the case we wouldn't have Vertonghen, Lloris or Rose in our squad for the last couple of seasons because they've all been through spells of poor form in their Spurs careers.

Dele is 23 years old. In the 2016-17/2017-18 seasons he scored a combined 36 goals. You don't "upgrade" a player like that because they've had a single season disrupted by injury and poor form.


Calm down. Nobody said ditch him but why should he be a guaranteed starter? Alli has always operated on the periphery of games since he signed, that’s three years now. Yes his goals and assists output for two seasons was excellent but he still for me is never involved enough in games.

His form has dipped badly for 12 months but it’s a big risk to expect him to come back into form because the fact of the matter is, if he has another poor season, it could cost us massively in terms of winning trophies.

I don’t think we will sign Dybala so Alli will most likely carry on playing but for me he is the weak link, not in terms of goals but just in terms of all around play. We’d be much better off with a more polished and well rounded talent like Dybala, it’s a dream world and not likely but it’s still a better line up than our current one.
 

ackie

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I personally think that if we do sign him, it may mean Eriksen leaving.
ZZ has said he's worried about lack of midfield with injuries.
Nonetheless GLC, Sess and Dybala would be great business
 

Primativ

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If a young player is going to have a dip in form it usually occurs after a period of success. Dele started the season soon after the World Cup. His form was patchy but the same could be said about Eriksen. He played many games with strapping on his thigh, almost had his leg broken by Evertons keeper, then sustained a serious injury against Fulham.

In stark contrast to previous seasons he spells out and was lacking fitness. Aside from all of that he has a good understanding with Kane and like Eriksen he changed his game to cover the loss of Dembele . Every time Eriksen ran 14 kms Dele turned in similar numbers, but no worries just keep the blinkers on, your eyes will adjust in due course .

I don’t need blinkers mate but it seems you do. I’m just suggesting Alli needs competition for his place from another top player, that’s all.

If you think Poch wouldn’t upgrade Alli for Dybala in an instant, I’ve got news for you. ?

Poch probably wants Kane in the 10 role and Dybala in the 9. Or they can interchange.

Where does that leave Alli?
 

Pat Rice Spurs fan

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If we were realistically looking at Lo Celso and Ceballos, why not Lo Celso & Dybala?
Yes, it's potentially an extra £20m but that's the difference in quality.
 

BENNO

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Can I quickly make a very unpopular opinion and say I think I'd prefer us to spend around £80-90m bringing in two top fullbacks... :whistle:

Ah my favorite subject - name those £80-90m full backs ???? Would serve the team better having absolutely top notch midfielders and attackers and letting Poch coach some 'average' full backs into better players than trying that in reverse.
 

hughy

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Calm down. Nobody said ditch him but why should he be a guaranteed starter? Alli has always operated on the periphery of games since he signed, that’s three years now. Yes his goals and assists output for two seasons was excellent but he still for me is never involved enough in games.

His form has dipped badly for 12 months but it’s a big risk to expect him to come back into form because the fact of the matter is, if he has another poor season, it could cost us massively in terms of winning trophies.

I don’t think we will sign Dybala so Alli will most likely carry on playing but for me he is the weak link, not in terms of goals but just in terms of all around play. We’d be much better off with a more polished and well rounded talent like Dybala, it’s a dream world and not likely but it’s still a better line up than our current one.
This paragraph alone is so unbelievably ridiculous.

Its a risk to expect him to come back to form, but it isn't a big risk to sign someone for £70 odd mil to replace him and expect him to do the job of Dele, and better? Nah.

Think about what you're saying.
 

MarkyBoy2019

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Hello all lurker here thought I would sign up seems like a good site. That's that out of the way onto the thread Dybala would be a cracking signing imo it has come out of nowhere but ITK in the past have said we get offered players all the time and Poch says no but going back to comments he said when we lost to Juventus in CL he really rates Dybala might be the only chance we have for him now
 

Primativ

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This paragraph alone is so unbelievably ridiculous.

Its a risk to expect him to come back to form, but it isn't a big risk to sign someone for £70 odd mil to replace him and expect him to do the job of Dele, and better? Nah.

Think about what you're saying.


What I meant was, it’s a big risk having no competition for his place in the side.

Last season he played week in week out when fit, and even when it was clear he was playing terribly, he was hardly ever dropped or rested.

I don’t want to see that happening again. What’s your problem with me wanting to upgrade in that position or at the very least offer some competition? Do you think Alli is not upgradable? He’s the best player in that position in the world? ?
 
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