Next Manager Watch

[Inq]

Poch going to the Chavs hurt more than I expected.

I feel so disconnected from the club these days I couldn’t give a monkeys that he went there at this point.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

This the disconnect.

If the club were in better shape, we would not need the money from a Kane sale.

But, if we let Kane walk away for free, and still have to replace him, but now with nothing - where will that leave us?

Our situation without Kane is almost relegation level. If we screw up hard next season and Kane isn’t there we could get dragged into something we can Ill afford

£80-100m is great but does anyone trust the club to spend properly. Normally I would take the money with 1 season left but there is something just very fragile about us I hope we can fix next season so when Kane does go we aren’t in potential free fall.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

How can people who have created a world class stadium and infrastructure get us into such a mess? I’m not even angry anymore, just sad.

We truly are fucked. Nothing to be excited about with this club

 

[marion52]

Poch going to the Chavs hurt more than I expected.

Only if he is a success will it be painful

 

[TEESSIDE1]

As per the recent updates, club’s toxic and no one with any pedigree will go anywhere near us?

If that’s the case and as much as he’s got an awful lot to learn, surely we have to appoint Mason?

a) he wants the job
b) he’s now qualified and has been in and around the team for a few years
c) albeit with mixed results and performances we’ve seen both a change in approach and some bright moments under Mason

With Mason I think the fans will give him some rope and time to get us on the right path again. Whereas if we get Nuno MK 2 then the fans will be baying for blood from the off.

Allow Mason to bring in a mixture of experience and up and coming coaches and give him a clean slate.

As multiple posters have said we undoubtedly have some quality in the squad and obviously a few cart horses who need putting down or moving on.

At this point in time I would be tempted to give Mason the chance to impress and grow as a coach.

The alternative is we appoint plan zzz, the players aren’t impressed, things continue on a downward spiral and the Poch successful era becomes a distant memory and lower to mid table becomes the norm.

 

[Metalhead]

As per the recent updates, club’s toxic and no one with any pedigree will go anywhere near us?

If that’s the case and as much as he’s got an awful lot to learn, surely we have to appoint Mason?

a) he wants the job
b) he’s now qualified and has been in and around the team for a few years
c) albeit the mixed results and performances we’ve seen both a change in approach and some bright moments under Mason

With Mason I think the fans will give him some rope and time to get us on the right path again. Whereas if we get Nuno MK 2 then the fans will be baying for blood from the off.

Allow Mason to bring in a mixture of experience and up and coming coaches and give him a clean slate.

As multiple posters have said we undoubtedly have some quality in the squad and obviously a few cart horses who need putting down or moving on.

At this point in time I would be tempted to give Mason the chance to impress and grow as a coach.

The alternative is we appoint plan zzz, the players aren’t impressed, things continue on a downward spiral and the Poch successful era becomes a distant menu and lower to mid table becomes the norm.

Who knows. I think that most are beyond second guessing the board now.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

£80-100m is great but does anyone trust the club to spend properly.

This is the typical argument - but the counter is - do you trust anyone to spend £0 properly?

This has to be part of the conversation with any new manager. First - where are we as a club, and can we compete next season, if we keep Kane. And the answer to the last question is one Levy has to get right - its clear we can not currently compete - so what will it cost to be competitive - lets say top-5, as that is the CL spots.

If Levy is willing to make that financial commitment this summer, and gets in a manager who can lead the squad - then it makes sense to keep Kane.

But, if Levy hears from a new DOF and manager, that it would cost too much to get us back to the top-5 immediately - i.e. too many holes to plug, and not enough budget, and Levy won't commit to a higher budget - then he has to acknowledge that the best long-term plan for the club to start a new project, with a new core group of players, with the goal of being in top-5, and competing for trophies in 24-25. And that means selling Kane, and probably Son now, and investing in younger players.

 

[Japhet]

Is it bad that I don't consider the Kane saga/drama as a huge factor in all of this? This is one rare occasion where myself personally thinks it's Kane's choice to decide if he wants to leave this Summer, sign a new deal, or stay and see his contract out. I'm just at the point where he's that status to us, and think are only few players in the history of the club that would deserve that option IMO.

I think for whoever the next manager it is it is MORE important to clear out over 10-15 plus players that are causing squad bloat than to make a decision on Kane. He has the right attitude and I don't personally think he'd cause problems here for another season.

Of course, there's a variety of opinions and all are valid - but at the end of the day usually for a rebuild to work a new manager needs to be able to put his stamp on the attitude and buy in of the squad and I could like 15 players in our squad alone that could cause more issues hanging around the club than Kane.

Again, going back to Nagelsmann, I think if we could get him and things worked out, Kane might actually sign a new contract. I don't see any chance of that happening with any of the other candidates. In other words, spend the 20m or whatever it is to free Nagelsmann up and potentially save having to spend 70m+ trying to replace Kane in a year's time. Surely that's a gamble worth taking, especially if Kane has expressed any preference for Nagelsmann.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Who knows. I think that most are beyond second guessing the board now.

I believe a mistake would be to appoint a has been or someone with no association to the club who is either after a big pay day or the only person to say yes.

If and I know it a big if… we get rid of the dross as we’ve apparently been alluded to and convince a few decent players to sign… then hopefully with a more offensive approach as seen under Mason at times, we can improve on our poor 8th place finish. Get ourselves in the Europa League next season and it should improve the calibre of players we can attract.

 

[lobob8]

Again, going back to Nagelsmann, I think if we could get him and things worked out, Kane might actually sign a new contract. I don't see any chance of that happening with any of the other candidates. In other words, spend the 20m or whatever it is to free Nagelsmann up and potentially save having to spend 70m= trying to replace Kane in a year's time. Surely that's a gamble worth taken, especially if Kane has expressed any preference for Nagelsmann.

At this point we have to do everything to keep him imo

 

[Scot-Spur]

I think at this point we just have to hope with Chelsea appointing Poch it makes it so Daniel has to go crawling back to Nagelsmann.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

We need to remember that a number of the current best managers in world football are ex-players who pretty much hit the ground running or quickly learned from their mistakes and flourished. I’m not saying Mason will be the next Pep but at the same time we also can’t say he’s doomed to fail.

There’s a chunk of managers I would prefer to appoint but if they’re a no go then we ‘can’ do an awful lot worse.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

This is the typical argument - but the counter is - do you trust anyone to spend £0 properly?

This has to be part of the conversation with any new manager. First - where are we as a club, and can we compete next season, if we keep Kane. And the answer to the last question is one Levy has to get right - its clear we can not currently compete - so what will it cost to be competitive - lets say top-5, as that is the CL spots.

If Levy is willing to make that financial commitment this summer, and gets in a manager who can lead the squad - then it makes sense to keep Kane.

But, if Levy hears from a new DOF and manager, that it would cost too much to get us back to the top-5 immediately - i.e. too many holes to plug, and not enough budget, and Levy won't commit to a higher budget - then he has to acknowledge that the best long-term plan for the club to start a new project, with a new core group of players, with the goal of being in top-5, and competing for trophies in 24-25. And that means selling Kane, and probably Son now, and investing in younger players.

If the club had a plan, if Levy was forced off the football side and we had a clear strategy with the Sporting Director and manager I could accept it.

However right now we are just chaos and even with a manager that might not change. Under these circumstances I honestly don’t trust the club to ride out next season without Kane, maybe that is being glass half empty but I do fear a free fall if the club doesn’t get its house in order.

 

[ziggy]

Yup. They’ve agreed with Haringey to forgo one of the other 9 events. I’m assuming that booking an extra concert was done deliberately not in error.

Remember matt Doherty

 

[Metalhead]

I believe a mistake would be to appoint a has been or someone with no association to the club who is either after a big pay day or the only person to say yes.

If and I know it a big if… we get rid of the dross as we’ve apparently been alluded to and convince a few decent players to sign… then hopefully with a more offensive approach as seen under Mason at times, we can improve on our poor 8th place finish. Get ourselves in the Europa League next season and it should improve the calibre of players we can attract.

Nothing wrong with any of that. We kind of have to assume that a candidate is interested for the right reasons. Until Conte and the whole 'he thinks that he's doing us a favour' angle, I never in the 30+ years of supporting the club ever even thought of that being a factor or an issue before. I guess that what most people are saying there is that they don't particularly want a big name.

 

[Hotspur33]

As per the recent updates, club’s toxic and no one with any pedigree will go anywhere near us?

If that’s the case and as much as he’s got an awful lot to learn, surely we have to appoint Mason?

a) he wants the job
b) he’s now qualified and has been in and around the team for a few years
c) albeit with mixed results and performances we’ve seen both a change in approach and some bright moments under Mason

With Mason I think the fans will give him some rope and time to get us on the right path again. Whereas if we get Nuno MK 2 then the fans will be baying for blood from the off.

Allow Mason to bring in a mixture of experience and up and coming coaches and give him a clean slate.

As multiple posters have said we undoubtedly have some quality in the squad and obviously a few cart horses who need putting down or moving on.

At this point in time I would be tempted to give Mason the chance to impress and grow as a coach.

The alternative is we appoint plan zzz, the players aren’t impressed, things continue on a downward spiral and the Poch successful era becomes a distant memory and lower to mid table becomes the norm.

I’m actually of a similar opinion. Excluding Nagelsmann, I don’t see anyone that the fans will get behind.

 

[daveduvet]

Oh yes it does. It causes a huge decline in the value of his investment if we are now dabbling with pub team managers and drifting into mid table obscurity and a running joke in the media.

Lewis handed control to Daniel. As long as profit exists, he doesn’t care about the football team. And nor would I at his age … he’s living tge dream

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Nobody pushing for Bielsa?

Not saying I am but would be interested if anybody could see that working....

Now manager of Uruguay

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

We really need to get this sorted out within the next week/10 days.

 

[KingNick]

I’m actually of a similar opinion. Excluding Nagelsmann, I don’t see anyone that the fans will get behind.

Fans will get behind any manager who wins matches. Every manager (bar Graham) has always been given a chance from the get go regardless of how uninspiring (Nuno / Gross)