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[arunspurs]

Anyone know much about his time at anderlect? Did he outperform expectations like with burnly?

Anderlect were 8th when he took over. In the 2 years, he took them to 3rd placed finishes with a cup final and just missed out on CL qualification. Now, this season, Anderlect in 9th spot. Kompany wasn't a failure, he did as well as he could with the no budget and just young players.

 

[Spursmad321]

I don’t think you can compare Kompany’s managerial CV to Gallardos.

I agree, however no matter who we appoint they will all be a gamble.

Kompany in my opinion is well worth the risk, and one I truly hope gets the job.

 

[Jimb197774]

I think it’s worth considering that Kompany is actually more experienced as a manager than Arteta was when he took over at Arsenal. Arteta took the role on after only being Peps coach/assistant For 3 years.

Where as Kompany now has the benefit of managing 2 clubs prior to being given A “Big Job”.

I am pro Slot as well, but the argument that the Dutch league is the 6th toughest league is nit Valid in this case. I would argue the championship is on par if not even tougher to succeed in.

 

[arunspurs]

Last 5 managers to win EFL Championship; Parker, Bielsa, Farke, Nuno and Benitez.

Applying some context is very important though...

1. Most if not all of the managers you quoted won those championship with squads ready for championship promotion. Bielsa won it in his 2nd try after a 3rd place finish in 18/19. Those squad had ingredients & squad members who were ready for championship. Someone like Farke kept core of the promotion squad from earlier season. Same story for Fulham under Silva.
2. Burnley let go or sold 16 squad players from 21/22 season. Of the 72m they sold, they only reinvested 24m in the summer Kompany tookover...which he brought in 9 players , mostly Belgian league youngsters, who he thought could make the difference in championship
3. Completely changed Burnley style
4. Has 90 points with 6 more games left. Just lost 4 games till now. You have to go to 2009/10 for similar numbers and least number of losses.

Burnley were supposed to go down in a financial meltdown with their huge debt. They were 14/1 to be promoted. What they have done this season was not in script.

Kompany achievement with Burnley is certainly special, and cannot be clubbed with what other championship clubs did in recent past

 

[HedgieSpur]

Of course just having a good career isn't going to make you a good manager, that goes without saying (just look at the likes of Keane, Rooney, Adams).
It takes more than that obviously but there are plenty of players that you listen to and think, "he'll make a good manager one day".

What I mean is that it can provide great experience for someone that is inclined in that way, not that every player can become a good manager.

Ah ok… fair play

 

[cockerel downunder]

Anderlect were 8th when he took over. In the 2 years, he took them to 3rd placed finishes with a cup final and just missed out on CL qualification. Now, this season, Anderlect in 9th spot. Kompany wasn't a failure, he did as well as he could with the no budget and just young players.

Thank you!

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Are Kompany’s ideas his own or Pep’s?

 

[arunspurs]

Are Kompany’s ideas his own or Pep’s?

Mostly similar...
But better see this full 11min speech of him...the first player meeting he had at Burnley

 

[HedgieSpur]

Kompany just seems like a weird appointment to me.

Weird isn’t the word Id use… “ill thought out” is a better phrase imo. It just smacks of hiring without thinking end to end.

if I were a cynic, it’s like Levy has looked at Woolwich and thought “how can I do the same?” And has gone for the glamour option rather than thinking about what is needed.

 

[sidford]

Hard not to get some Roy Keane Sunderland 2006/07 vibes off Kompanys Burnley this season. Ex big name player who made a couple of decent signings and getting a huge amount of momentum and running away with league.
Not against Kompany but hard not to see some parallels.

 

[arunspurs]

Hard not to get some Roy Keane Sunderland 2006/07 vibes off Kompanys Burnley this season. Ex big name player who made a couple of decent signings and getting a huge amount of momentum and running away with league.
Not against Kompany but hard not to see some parallels.

Well, its very hard to see the similarity of this comparison...EXCEPT the fact being they were big name players.
What decent signings Kompany had, we could name start of season ?

And Keane won a tight league in 2006/07, where gap between his 1st placed Sunderland & 10th placed Colchester is 19pts. With just 40 games played, the same 19points is the gap between Burnley & 3rd placed Boro this season...and only Boro has already played 2 games extra

 

[Jimb197774]

Are Kompany’s ideas his own or Pep’s?

He will have of course been influenced by Pep, as will any player that has played under him. Its arguable you can’t just replicate Peps ideas without an elite group of players, so to that point I would say his ideas are his own but heavily influenced by Pep.

Hopefully Martinez has had less impact on his football beliefs .

 

[felmani26]

I’d like to see a bigger sample of games to judge the merits of Kompany succeeding Conte but that being said, football is a very circumstantial sport in being at the right place at the right time - he might be the face the club wants to pin its hopes on and would command the respect of the players at least in the the short term due to his character and achievements in the game.

I don’t necessarily subscribe to him being groomed for the City job as there are a lot of Pep acolytes in high level jobs - none least, Arteta who would be the obvious candidate for City to target post Pep.

Still have preference for others on the shortlist but nevertheless Kompany is an interesting choice should we pursue him.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It would be a risky appointment for a couple of big reasons (most concerning is his City connection / legacy meaning speculation would be intense if he is a success here) but he does seem to have something about him as a manager, and it could get us back on track. I don’t hate it.

 

[Mr Pink]

I like the idea of Kompany. Doing a great job with Burnley.

He has a presence for sure, he's a winner in this league and the players know all about him.

There's just something about it that feels right.

I'd prefer him over Slot.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Interesting. Risky appointment although I can see the logic, he is someone who has shown he can transform a side, he plays a brand of football that would be perfect for us, works with youth.

This is a clear Arteta type appointment. And the question is do the club have the balls and most importantly the staying power for it. If we go down the Kompany route then the next manager after Kompany should look to play the same style of football. Our club needs to make a choice of identity, choosing Kompany is choosing Pep or that way of playing. I guess we have Scott Mann from the City group so it feels like we might be trying to copy the City model.

 

[$hoguN]

I’d sooner Kompany than Slot or Pochettino

 

[Dave1882]

Plenty like this as expected.

He’s had 1 successful year in championship.

He is a ‘City man’…if he’s any good, he’ll leave us for them at the first opportunity and don’t kid yourselves otherwise. Those saying an Arteta style appointment, you do realise arteta is at ‘his club’, this is not the same. The loyalty won’t be there

I’d rather get someone in who doesn’t have an engrained love of another PL team or ideally, Poch…certain this will be a v unpopular post

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

It’s a no from me.

I want someone who has more than 1 good season in where his team is definitely overpowered compared to most.

Makes little sense when there’s managers who played good football and have the experience also.

He should stay with Burnley imo

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Going for someone like Kompany is a huge repudiation of the 3-4 years of Jose of Nuno and of Conte. 3-4 years totally wasted.

Couldn’t get a more different way of playing. Our whole scouting and team structure will need to be updated particularly the requirement for good ball playing attacking midfielders although our other targets like Slot also lead us down this path.