Next Manager Watch

[jpascavitz]

I said it yesterday and I'll definitely say it again. Any of the available free agent mangers I would take and back - Enrique, Tuchel, Poch. There are some of those three I prefer way more than others but at the end of the day I'm not underwhelmed by any of those three and think they possess the chance to get us top 4 and happy to move forward with them into next year.

When you hear names like Glasner (who I would give a chance if appointed, not pitch forks out already lol), or that we're going to wait until Summer for a wild goose chase, then my critiques go out the window and just hope it's someone decent.

 

[GMI]

Levy will be overthinking it all yet at the same time not thinking about it properly at all.

When we need Levy to plan and be more complex he keeps it simple and hires Jose to fix all our problems.

When we need Levy to keep it simple and just literally any manager who plays good football he ends up with the right idea of Fonseca but hires a DofF who is a terrible fit and so we end up with Nuno

Now when we need Levy to either : A) keep it simple and just bring Poch back or B) plan a bit with a project manager who plays good football... he is likely A) overthinking and 2nd guessing bringing Poch back B) going to hire another manager who plays boring football

Its a mess because Levy overthinks and underthinks both at the same time and he keeps changing his mind about what he wants:
"I want a manager to be here for years and years like Sir Alex"
"I want a manager who plays good football"
"We need to win a trophy so I will hire a manager with an incredible CV"
"I want a manager who develops the youth players"

Its all so contradicting and scattergun.

We could literally end up with sideshow bob as our manager at this point.

I think that’s probably one of the most spot on statements about Daniel ever in relation to our football operations.

 

[Styopa]

One major issue if he came in though would be the chelsea stigma. Wouldn't take long before certain parts of the fanbase start bringing it up. He wouldn't get much patience.

I'm not sure this is true. I can't remember many pointing to Conte's Chelsea history as a mark against him. Quite the opposite, in fact. People have pointed to his success with Chelsea to defend him.

I think most fans were excited by AVB, Mourinho and Conte. The main problem fans have had with these guys is the football they play rather than the fact they managed Chelsea.

 

[fecka]

If it's Glasner then I might just check out of the club for a while. That's Nuno-levels of an appointment. I genuinely hope the noise from the german media is bs, but Bild is IIRC quite reliable and they are pushing it hard.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Personally I'd farrrrr farrr rather L.Enrique's high pressing tiki taka posession based style over Glasner's dull rigid 3-4-3 and being more of the same as what we have now.

I'd actually be a bit excited about L.Enrique, a risk yes but could be good whereas some other options like Nuno just have no chance of working out at all.

Sure, if it was a choice between him and Glasner, I’d want Enrique! Enrique will obviously get us playing better football but there’s far too many red flags for me.

I’d love to come back to this in a year and call myself an idiot who knows nothing but I haven’t seen anything which makes me think he is any different to Conte and Mourinho in terms of why we’re appointing them.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'm not sure this is true. I haven't noticed many people mentioning Conte's Chelsea history as a mark against him. Quite the opposite, in fact. People have pointed to his success with Chelsea to defend him.

I think most fans were excited by AVB, Mourinho and Conte. The main problem fans have had with these guys is the football they play rather than the fact they managed Chelsea.

I think you're spot on there mate, I don't actually think that many Spurs fans hold the fact they managed Chelsea against them particularly, as you say its primarily their style of play and for Jose and Conte their personalities which have been the issue.

 

[Timberwolf]

Personally Id farrrrr farrr rather L.Enrique's high pressing tiki taka posession based style over Glasner's dull rigid 3-4-3 and being more of the same as what we have now.

I'd actually be a bit excited about L.Enrique, a risk yes but could be good whereas some other options like Nuno just have no chance of working out at all.

Yeah that about sums up my take on him. For me there's basically 3 tiers:

Managers I Could Actually See Building Something Here Long Term (Tier 1)

De Zerbi, Amorim, Postecoglu

Managers With Pedigree That I Would Really Want To Succeed But Expect Would Be Gone Within 2 Years (Tier 2)

Tuchel, Poch, Enrique

ShitTurds* Guaranteed to Fail (Tier 3)

Glasner, Frank, Silva, Mason

*ok so they're decent managers not shitturds but they'd struggle to last a year at Spurs

 

[Ghost Hardware]

His managerial career in club football aside from Barcelona, which anybody could be successful at during the height of Messi’s powers, is very, very poor.

He isnt a project manager either.

I wouldn't say that completely, he actually did a good job with Celta and got them playing some good football. His time there was defiantly considered a success and was what prompted Barca to hire him in the first place. But Roma was a disaster. One of my biggest concerns re him is that aside from that time at Roma he's never played or managed outside of Spain. I have big concerns he is one of those managers that just suits the Spanish system and may not be able to translate to another league. Even Gallardo at least played for PSG and Monaco, I know it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but I do think playing in a different league at least opens you up to different culture.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If it's Glasner then I might just check out of the club for a while. That's Nuno-levels of an appointment. I genuinely hope the noise from the german media is bs, but Bild is IIRC quite reliable and they are pushing it hard.

Same mate it would be incredible if we hire a 4th boring manager in a row 3 years of hell is enough, if they carry it on my god I might also just pack it in for a while tbh, what is the point.

Sorry, getting a bit wound but up but I've been going for 25 years with my family and friends as season ticket holder and home and away and to games in Europe and the last 3 years have broken me in terms of my enjoyment of the club and football and I literally just want us to hire a manager who can make us enjoy the football a bit again. Glasner would just be a fucking continuation of Conteball really not that different

So much noise in the media about that and no other names being picked up by papers in UK or Germany as much as Glasner so it concerns me.

I'd like some reports to start coming out about L.Enrique or Poch or just someone else please.

 

[Hotspur88]

Looks that way. This was his full quote:

Disappointed to hear this morning we are going all out for Tuchel. Gutted we don't seem to want Poch back.

I said a week or so back that the two names I was given were Tuchel and Enrique.

 

[Rosco1984]

can we not start a trend on twitter of #no343 so the club get the message it seems to be the only thing they pay attention to. How devoid of any self awareness would the club need to be to not try a more positive approach now after the boredom since Poch left.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Yeah that about sums up my take on him. For me there's basically 3 tiers:

Managers I Could Actually See Building Something Here Long Term (Tier 1)

De Zerbi, Amorim, Postecoglu

Managers With Pedigree That I Would Really Want To Succeed But Expect Would Be Gone Within 2 Years (Tier 2)

Tuchel, Poch, Enrique

ShitTurds* Guaranteed to Fail (Tier 3)

Glasner, Frank, Silva, Mason

*ok so they're decent managers not shitturds but they'd struggle to last a year at Spurs

Bang on mate

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I said a week or so back that the two names I was given were Tuchel and Enrique.

Pray to god one of these happens!

Either of them over Glasner all day everyday.

 

[only1waddle]

First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

Absolutely, I thought a while ago that potential managers/coaches will end up interviewing him more than him with them.

 

[Darth Vega]

can we not start a trend on twitter of #no343 so the club get the message it seems to be the only thing they pay attention to. How devoid of any self awareness would the club need to be to not try a more positive approach now after the boredom since Poch left.

I said this in another thread only recently but I'm not sure why everyone is so hung up on the formation. In Poch's peak seasons we often played with 3 at the back and we were brilliant. The idea that a formation alone significantly changes anything is detached from reality, if that were the case we may as well bring back Nuno and Jose who both played 4231/433.

What we need is an idea of how we want to play more so than anything else, something above and beyond a formation or "good football". We need to decide what good football looks like and that will largely be dictated by the players we have at the club at the moment, and from there we can pick the manager. If we nail that (we won't, it's Levy) then everything else will fall into place, formation notwithstanding.

 

[Rosco1984]

I said this in another thread only recently but I'm not sure why everyone is so hung up on the formation. In Poch's peak seasons we often played with 3 at the back and we were brilliant. The idea that a formation alone significantly changes anything is detached from reality, if that were the case we may as well bring back Nuno and Jose who both played 4231/433.

What we need is an idea of how we want to play more so than anything else, something above and beyond a formation or "good football". We need to decide what good football looks like and that will largely be dictated by the players we have at the club at the moment, and from there we can pick the manager. If we nail that (we won't, it's Levy) then everything else will fall into place, formation notwithstanding.

ok lets try #nomorepassiveshyte

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I said this in another thread only recently but I'm not sure why everyone is so hung up on the formation. In Poch's peak seasons we often played with 3 at the back and we were brilliant. The idea that a formation alone significantly changes anything is detached from reality, if that were the case we may as well bring back Nuno and Jose who both played 4231/433.

What we need is an idea of how we want to play more so than anything else, something above and beyond a formation or "good football". We need to decide what good football looks like and that will largely be dictated by the players we have at the club at the moment, and from there we can pick the manager. If we nail that (we won't, it's Levy) then everything else will fall into place, formation notwithstanding.

If its Glasner 3-4-3 it'll be much of the same.

If its Tuchel's 3-4-3 we will at least try to dominate posession.

I think however the fans just want a fresh start and would like us to have more players in the middle of the park so we can string some passing moves and possession together.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I said a week or so back that the two names I was given were Tuchel and Enrique.

gut feeling that is a huge mistake for different reasons. We will be back here in 12-24 months looking for the next manager probably. Both good managers but not sure it would work.

Tuchel - combustible figure whose football at Chelsea was quite pragmatic.

Luis Enrique - style of football I am not sure we have the squad for.

 

[Viking78]

Looking at the list of next manager odds, this is my gut reaction to each name linked by group, agree/disagree?

Yes -

• Poch
• De Zerbi
• Ange
• Kompany
• Gallardo
• Amorim
• Carrick
• Ancelotti
• Potter
• Alonso

No Thanks -

• Glasner
• Marco Silva
• Hasaenhuttle
• Bielsa
• Galtier
• Fonseca
• Allegri
• Cooper
• Simeone
• Mourinho
• Benitez

Ehhh, whatever could be fun/could be a disaster

• Tuchel
• Enrique
• Frank
• Rodgers
• Zidane

I wouldn't completely write off Glasner.
He plays a similar style and formation to Conte but Eintracht are one of the highest pressing teams in Bundesliga. They are set up for fast counter attacks much like we had with Conte last season.
This season they are missing Kostic who contributed a lot of goals and assists and Hinteregger.
With Udogie and Porro next season, Glasner would certainly be in his element. The one issue i would forsee is our forward line, which does not really press efficiently at present, although they were capable of it last season.

 

[fecka]

Same mate it would be incredible if we hire a 4th boring manager in a row 3 years of hell is enough, if they carry it on my god I might also just pack it in for a while tbh, what is the point.

Sorry, getting a bit wound but up but I've been going for 25 years with my family and friends as season ticket holder and home and away and to games in Europe and the last 3 years have broken me in terms of my enjoyment of the club and football and I literally just want us to hire a manager who can make us enjoy the football a bit again. Glasner would just be a fucking continuation of Conteball really not that different

So much noise in the media about that and no other names being picked up by papers in UK or Germany as much as Glasner so it concerns me.

I'd like some reports to start coming out about L.Enrique or Poch or just someone else please.

Same.
I'm a somewhat new fan as I've only followed the club since 09/10, the era where we've never won anything but it's not the club winning trophies that convinced me to follow a club in a foreign country I have zero connection to whatsoever - it was an exciting team that you felt could beat anyone on the day. I love winning and am as much of a sore loser as anyone, but the reason I started following Spurs was feeling the excitement and entertainment. That's something I've rarely felt since 19/20.

I want to believe again and a coach playing some attacking football and building a team around young, hungry talent would go a long way for me.