What's new

Next Manager Watch

Status
Not open for further replies.

For the love of Spurs

Well-Known Member
Mar 28, 2015
3,454
11,295
How does Ange's team set up defensively. Do they play a high line?

Also, does he make tactical tweaks in-game? Or is he just pretty flat out attack?

I watched the Madrid highlights and they had a right go but got caught out on counter

I am sure there are fans on this forum particularly Aussies who would know more but to me it looks very Pep watching Celtic. Like to stretch teams using the full pitch, likes to dominate possession, likes to play high, generally front foot.

We will need better defenders and defenders with pace as it’s likely we will play high.
 

Albertbarich

Well-Known Member
Jul 4, 2020
5,311
20,144
That league had a club in the UEFA Cup final last year, and has had van Dijk, Wanyama and Tierney develop there before becoming top PL players.

The skepticism seems to be due to other failures such as Gerrard, but this ignores the fact that Gerrard didn't fail at Villa because he cut his teeth in the SPL: he failed because he's an arsehole no one likes.
He failed because his assistant left, smashed it at QPR and is now Rangers manager showing that he was fully the brains behind Gerrards operation.
 

easley91

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2011
19,244
55,191
Another terrible appointment that goes against everything the club said it wanted? Yep. Sounds like Tottenham. See you all in the next manager thread in October.
Haven't appointed anyone, but keep on with the end of the world doom and gloom making up scenarios due to rumour and hearsay..
 

jebratt

Well-Known Member
Jan 28, 2011
166
586
I don't think anyone is in denial. The squad has been slowly in rebuild since Paratici came in as DOF. I think that will just continue. It is clear we need a GK, WLB has already said we're targeting Laporte/Ndicka to strengthen the defence, and we've been heavily linked to Maddison as a creative attacking player.

We don't need to completely overhaul the squad because at least 50% of them have only been here for the last couple of years. Players like Lloris, Sanchez, Tanganga, Moura, Winks, Lo Celso/Ndombele will all be sold or loaned out.

I reckon this will happen no matter who is appointed as manager.


I respectfully disagree because if we were not in denial, then we would have went all in for Slot who apparently wanted to start by selling off Kane and Son… Also, the hiring of Jose and Conte had nothing to do with rebuilding and more to do with trying to paper over the cracks…Finally, if we were truly committed to rebuilding we would have shifted or shipped out more of the deadwood but I think the board believe that it is better to keep some of them to see if a new manager can get tune out of them..
 

spursfan77

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2005
46,703
105,010
They are but they are also a very well run operation with the best knowledge of coaches and a set coaching methodology for others to follow like Arteta etc.

It may end in tears but so did Mourinho and Conte, 2 supposed ' world class proven winners' who played utterly dogshit defensive football and couldn't coach and develop players to save their lives.

Nearly ever Spurs fan was underwhelmed with Jol, Redknapp and Poch. They are our 3 best PL managers. Jol hadn't really done anything in his career when he was appointed assistant manager.

How about we actually give the man a chance if he's appointed, especially as he actually wants to play attacking football. It might be a disaster, it may work out, who knows? But if he wants to play attacking football the Spurs way and actually wants to be here, he will get my backing over so called world class coaches who just want to defend in their own box the whole match and constantly slate the club because they're 'above us'.

He won’t get a chance. He will be walking into a stadium with a highly toxic atmosphere from day one. Most fans don’t want him and I suspect most of the players won’t either and with our club that’s a huge problem. I can’t believe levy will risk all that on appointing him. The risk is just too big.
 

RuskyM

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2011
7,233
23,926
Another terrible appointment that goes against everything the club said it wanted? Yep. Sounds like Tottenham. See you all in the next manager thread in October.
How?

I know it's the in-thing to be angry first and decide why later, but how does he "go against everything the club said it wanted"?
 

RuskyM

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2011
7,233
23,926
He won’t get a chance. He will be walking into a stadium with a highly toxic atmosphere from day one. Most fans don’t want him and I suspect most of the players won’t either and with our club that’s a huge problem. I can’t believe levy will risk all that on appointing him. The risk is just too big.
If this is true (and we have no way of knowing) then it's exactly what Pochettino faced and dealt with within six months. What followed was the best Spurs team in about three decades.

The fans were singing the name of Conte within weeks. He'd pretty quickly get people on side, even those who ridiculed his appointment - I know this because it happened at Celtic.
 

jebratt

Well-Known Member
Jan 28, 2011
166
586
Nothing against Ange’s age since it is just a number but he just feels more like an experienced journeyman than a true visionary…
 

spursfan77

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2005
46,703
105,010
and thats with the social media gloss all over it.

The plain light of day says hes a journey man coach who has hit his level at a league one club in Scotland.

We have a top 10 budget European club with a league one mentality if we are seriously going for this guy.

If Munn wasn’t involved he wouldn’t even be in the discussion.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

Well-Known Member
Aug 10, 2017
5,291
12,563
He won’t get a chance. He will be walking into a stadium with a highly toxic atmosphere from day one. Most fans don’t want him and I suspect most of the players won’t either and with our club that’s a huge problem. I can’t believe levy will risk all that on appointing him. The risk is just too big.

That's the fans' problem.

We need to invest in one vision now and give it time to work. Fans were hounding Arsenal to drop Arteta, Chelsea on Potter (successfully), even Liverpool with Klopp during the early period.

Fans don't want him? Tough, get used to it, this is the direction we're going in. Players don't want him? Sell them. Not sure how many times we can keep doing this roundabout. And this applies to Ange, Enrique or Graham Potter.
 

HedgieSpur

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2020
1,470
4,971
I'll probably get slammed for this but I'm convinced Enrique would be a disaster. He hasn't managed at club level since 2017, plays suffocatingly dull possession based football and has a similar reputation as Conte for being difficult. His appointment would represent Levy (probably still under the influence of Paratici) clinging to failed belief that a big reputation is the answer to our problems. Sensible money would be on him leaving within 18 months with us outside the top 10. I'd much rather we took a risk and gave the job to Mason (who, though not my first choice, has handled himself impeccably and shown signs of being a very promising coach) than have reached the point where the club thinks going the same route as Mourinho and Conte is the best way forward.

Im not going to slam you, but what it appears you want is someone you can identify with on a personal level rather than solely focus on experience/capability. I suspect many people will feel the same way.

I dont feel that is particularly neccessary and even if I did, I'd feel more of a connection with Ledley or JD than I do with Mason. As such, I want the best person for the job based on capability, experience and flexibility. On those criteria, for me Luis Enrique completely outperforms Mason.
 

RobjDerby

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
883
4,729
Yes, some of those posts are OTT.

But to be honest, thats where a lot of fans minds are after the shambles.

Every appointment will be undermined, questioned and dragged over the coals...........because.....guess what.

Our Board hardly EVER get it right....
 

Phil_2.0

Well-Known Member
Jun 5, 2008
927
1,804
i dont know who youre talking about. not saying there isn't a player he's rubbed the wrong way, but I am Australian and when he was manager he was described as 'loved by his players'. He works them hard but he's also very fair. and Celtic's players have regularly spoken about the effect he's had on them on and off the pitch since he's been there.

Look, i actually don't think he's necessarily right for Spurs but i find the negativity to be ridiculously excessive

It was from a documentary with Australian players after the Asian cup win with people like Tim Cahill. They weren't anti him.

I don't think hes a bad man manager, i have no idea. I was just making the point he seems very tough and tbh has a very mediocre level of charisma. He will be stepping up to a new level with Spurs and he might not have the ability to dominate this level of players and i don't think he will potentially get the time to get his own players in that he can dominate.

He comes across as a good principalled guy with a solid tactical ability. I think hes a good coach, i think Tottenham need more than that.
 

easley91

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2011
19,244
55,191
I know people ask why would they want to work with Levy, but why would you want to come to a club with fans who turn on you before you even join the club and decide you're no good without letting you prove yourself?

I would stay well clear of Tottenham and stay at Celtic or go elsewhere.

And I'm a f*****g fan who loves it to death.
 

soflapaul

Well-Known Member
Aug 18, 2018
9,138
15,265
In terms of risk/reward, JN is still the stand alone candidate out there. Big Ange might be able to pull it off but the risk is certainly there in terms of defensive strategy and results in Europe. Granted, his teams were outclassed on paper to start but there were still outclassed on the pitch too. Big personality and attractive football work in his favor but the ratio or risk to reward is still pretty high.

JN on the other hand has one negative attribute that i've heard so far and that was losing the dressing room, or part of the dressing room at BM. In hindsight, BM has proven to be a bit of a shitshow and Tommy T, who many thought would have been a good coach for us, has struggled. JN improves players, is tactically astute and flexible while having a fairly telegenic personality all of which could be enough to keep Kane and keep him committed while attracting other players.

Baffling.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top