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[fishhhandaricecake]

Enrique doesnt play tiki taka

At Barca it was a bit more direct, the Spain national team was definitely 'tiki taka' it was quite beautiful to watch tbh.

 

[Yantino]

I don't know who the next Head Coach is going to be that next fits in to our football structure. But what i have come to terms with is that I'm drawing a line in the sand now on what has happened over the last few years. It's been a complete failure. This next appointment needs to be viewed with a clean slate and into a new project to build a better footballing model for the club to function under and it is going to take time for things to get better.

In other words (and people won't like to hear this), but I am resetting my clock on the rebuild project that is abundantly clear is needed. Needs an overhaul and fresh perspective on all of it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Enrique is a good coach, but again it’s all about alignment for me. I don’t think he would be aligned well with the club’s aims and methods. But since the club is flailing around without any plan or aims it’s hard to make any definitive calls on it.

Not saying I agree or disagree but can you expand on what you mean by this/why you think this?

For me L.Enrique plays the type of football we'd like to see so I think there would be good alignment, he also said he's ready for a new longer-term project so he does kind of tick both of those boxes however from a personality perspective and overall I don't think he'd be as good a fit as say Slot would've been.

 

[HedgieSpur]

At Barca it was a bit more direct, the Spain national team was definitely 'tiki taka' it was quite beautiful to watch tbh.

Yeah I ve been focusing on his club sides as thats more comparable imo. As for Spain, when Morata is your number 9 then youre going to struggle but either way, they should have done better.

 

[septicsac]

It's a poor choice imo. I'm not overly opposed to the tika taka style of football like some are, but there is a reason very few teams have used it for any length of time despite it being incredibly successful. You pretty much need a team full of highly technical players to do it well, and we are a long way from that. He is no different to Jose or Conte in the regard he will require an awful lot of specifics to pull that off and we know how that works out. There is no point bringing in another manager who will just be frustrated at not getting exactly what they need.

Re last line, does that not apply to every manager in our recent history and likely to whoever is our next manager, no matter who it is.

 

[mr ashley]

Enrique is a good coach, but again it’s all about alignment for me. I don’t think he would be aligned well with the club’s aims and methods. But since the club is flailing around without any plan or aims it’s hard to make any definitive calls on it.

Is there a chance that the work done with the academy by paratici meant building something longer term- making Enrique someone that paratici favoured?

 

[Jlimbac0]

1400 pages.. Are we there yet?

We're "edging" closer.

 

[arunspurs]

It's a poor choice imo. I'm not overly opposed to the tika taka style of football like some are, but there is a reason very few teams have used it for any length of time despite it being incredibly successful. You pretty much need a team full of highly technical players to do it well, and we are a long way from that. He is no different to Jose or Conte in the regard he will require an awful lot of specifics to pull that off and we know how that works out. There is no point bringing in another manager who will just be frustrated at not getting exactly what they need.

Enrique comes from school of Tiki taka but he has been flexible. He does play it for Spain , didn’t do it much in Barca

When he had to fit in Neymar Messi Suarez in single XI , he tweaked the philosophy. Neymar & Messi don’t do defensive work . He dropped Xavi who was getting older. Played Rakitic Busquets Iniesta . That Barca team always a front foot team pressing & counter pressing - always looked to hit hard first instead of tiring possession football

 

[septicsac]

Don't agree with line people are putting out there that we need to move away from certain types of managers, as they just do not work for us.
No manager will work for us under Levy, they might succeed short term, ala Poch, but long term you cannot succeed being hamstrung by your overlord.
Thought that might change under JM or AC , as no point hiring either unless you are going to give them.what they want, which levy did not do, so they were destined to fail.
I like Celtic, like Anges football, but hope he stays there where he has success and is revered, if he comes to us he will be twatted about like all previous and will likely be gone in under 12-18 months.
I have never been so apathetic about an appointment in the clubs history, we are a complete and utter mess, we lack cohesive leadership and to be honest bar throwing a pile of money at a manager and Dof it's becoming increasingly difficult to see how else we could convince someone to risk their reputation with us.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

There are major problems with Enrique:


- Hasn’t worked as a club manager for 7 years, since 2017! That’s a very long time to be out of club management while the club game evolves.

- Failed the only time he ever left Spain when he went to Roma (and was only there 1 season).

- Another big name, glamour appointment used to unlimited resources at his last club job. Will see us as a step down and would be very demanding beyond reason.

- His possession style seems to become slow and predictable.

I think he would be a huge gamble and I don’t think he’s the right person to unite the club behind the scenes in the way Poch did. He isn’t a project manager.

Whilst he isn’t my top choice I have to disagree with your last two points here.

As a personality he is actually pretty down to Earth and likeable. He’s not an egomaniac like Conte and Jose. When he was at Celta he was far from demanding and actually changed the ethos of the club. Talk to any fan of Celta at the time and they will wax lyrical about him. Just because he managed Barca doesn’t make him a glamour manager. Remember Ernesto Valverde or Tata Martino?

As for his style of play, it isn’t slow. It’s actually very direct. From his time at Barca B, where he actually did better than Pep, he streamlined the Barca tiki taka slow possession. His time with Barca and Celta he valued getting the ball up to the top of the pitch as swiftly as possible in order to catch the opposition off guard. Fast passing patterns and FB’s that sat high up the pitch, more like wingers. Yes he does use elements of that Barca passing style and he presses high and likes to retain possession but his football is not as suffocating as Pep or Kompany. And as I mentioned this isn’t a style that only worked with Barca’s crazy team, he got Celta doing the same.

I really feel there is a preconception amongst Spurs fans about Enrique that is completely unfounded in certain respects. I don’t know where it stems from. His Barca and Celta team were a joy to watch. What happened with Spain at the World Cup was very much down to Morata not being fully fit. He had to play false 9 and his tactics, unlike Pep, needs a technical striker. His only other real option was Morano who is more a target man and not great technically. Kane would be perfect for his system.

Some of what you say is true and I share some concerns, can he work outside of Spain is a big one for me. But I feel that some people are a little miss informed when it comes to certain elements of him as a coach. Is he my top choice, absolutely not but he’s certainly one of the best options out of those currently linked.

 

[cliff jones]

Massively off topic but we’re all talking shit anyway-

especially for the olduns- Tony Galvin on TS now

 

[Trix]

Re last line, does that not apply to every manager in our recent history and likely to whoever is our next manager, no matter who it is.

No I don't think so. Some will have much higher expectations as far as specific player backing than others.

 

[arunspurs]

Enrique isn’t a moaner like Jose or Conte. If he doesn’t feel club is suiting him he would rather finish the job for season and walk away on his own than moan about it all day .

Our views & preferences in this 1400+ is changing week to week . We have discussed lot of names …

Enrique will be experiment that may or may not work but we will know only after a season. But I would rather do that experiment with Enrique than risk it with Potter or Ange or that fraud Rodgers.

Having said if we bring Enrique we better commit to him properly. Enrique has successfully used 3-4-3 & 4-3-3 in & out of possession- so there are certain aspects of squad that will fit his way. We will need though proper CB CM GK signing . But doable

 

[adamsky]

My initial feelings are we don’t have the players to play the possession football but how often do players leave us and go on to prove that they are capable of more. Another example is Lewis Dunk at Brighton, no one thought he would be as good on the ball as he is. It is amazing what some movements from teammates, giving options, can do.

NB; This does not apply to Davinson Sanchez or Dier, both clearly not good enough

 

[parj]

And what do you feel Brighton's ceiling is with their current squad? Remember they only finished 2 points above us and have been well coached and playing out of their skins all season. If our ambition is 6th and Enrique is happy with that then it might work. If we have aspirations of finishing higher and actually winning something we will need much better players all over to play this style of football successfully.

If Brighton can achieve that with their squad, then we can achieve higher. It's the difference between being shackled and not shackled. It won't work overnight, but once players know they can play again, they will be better.

And what do you think the ceiling of some of our players are? Do you really think many of them have played to 70% of their capabilities whilst being restricted to very specific instructions? Bissouma and Danjuma have barely figured yet, Gil can play, GLC can play, Udogie can play.... There are good players coming back before we even sign anyone

 

[Tucker]

Damn it. Some of you fuckers are bringing me round to the idea of Enrique now. Which means he’ll sign for Napoli by teatime.

You’ve only yourselves to blame!

 

[freeeki]

So as a handy summary for those of us on holiday and not following the minutae of Levy’s latest circus of cack - can we conclude that we’re no closer to anyone whatsoever?

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

So as a handy summary for those of us on holiday and not following the minutae of Levy’s latest circus of cack - can we conclude that we’re no closer to anyone whatsoever?

Levy has tried nothing, and he's all out of ideas.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

If we have aspirations of finishing higher and actually winning something we will need much better players all over to play this style of football successfully.

This is true no matter the style we play…

 

[KingNick]

@arunspurs and @Ghost Hardware both nailing it about Enrique on here. Can’t believe some of the opinions I’ve seen which seem to be talking about a different coach altogether rather than the Enrique who developed his own tika taka 2.0 style which was a lot more progressive.
I struggle to see a downside that is any worse than can be attributed to most of the other options who are still available. And there are far more upsides. Not least, going for a proven winner with experience at the level we aspire to be at.