Next Manager Watch

[coy-spurs1882]

You mean like when Keane and Berbatov left?

And Bale

 

[Annabel]

Does Levy portray a "Dark" personality?

"An essential feature of “dark” personalities is that they are disconnected. They are trapped inside themselves in narcissistic isolation and find it difficult to take other people’s perspectives. As a result, they lack a clear sense of how their actions will be perceived, or of what type of behaviour is acceptable"

That might be true but it’s a bit heavy for me. I think it’s that Levy thinks he’s got the charm and nous of Del Boy and the business skills of Boyce, whereas he’s actually got the brains of Trigger & the luck of Uncle Albert.

 

[DenverSpur]

Ok here's my thoughts, on the understanding that the top names that we've fooled ourselves thinking about have all told us to do one I believe we have to accept we ain't in contention for trophies in the next couple of years so we don't need a proven winner we need a coach who can get us playing as a team not reliant on individuals, one who even if they can't take us to the top can give us the foundations and the route to the top.
My obvious candidate is Potter and although many of you won't like it I believe he would be the right option. His time at Chelsea is as much or more about that club and the owner who spent a fortune and still never got a striker nor did he seem to understand that Potter wasn't going to give him instant success.
Potter's record at Brighton cannot be questioned, they were everybody's favourite to go down when he took over and he turned around their style of play and their expectations and did it without a striker worth the name there either.
Brighton improved each season and although Di Zerbi is getting the plaudits there's no reason to suppose Potter wouldn't have presided over the same improvement had he still been there. On the other hand if you believe he wouldn't have done, then at least he built the model for Di Zerbi to take forward and even that would be a fucking massive bonus for us at the moment the state we're in.
Seriously we ain't in a place to think about success right now, if anything where we are we need to think about avoiding failure and steaming away from the maelstrom.
On that basis I respectfully put Graham Potter forward as my preferred option as our new coach.
Sorry I didn't moan, attack or slag off anyone and everyone like we're supposed to be doing in this thread but I just thought I'd try something different.
If anybody disagrees with me fine but please make your argument as to why and what is your better option.

I disagree because I believe Potter flatters to deceive. He gets his teams playing possession football but it’s possession for the sake of possession. He doesn’t know how to set his team up to score goals. De Zerbi came in and with the same group of players is getting more shots on goal than any team bar City.
Plus he’s very boring.

 

[soflapaul]

That might be true but it’s a bit heavy for me. I think it’s that Levy thinks he’s got the charm and nous of Del Boy and the business skills of Boyce, whereas he’s actually got the brains of Trigger & the luck of Uncle Albert.

I suspect part of his motivation is that he wants to be the one who brings Tottenham into the big leagues proving everyone wrong. Hence, he goes with a Jose appointment an AC appointment, etc. trying to get it over the edge.

 

[spursfan77]

I’ve never really rated Potter but for some reason I’m coming around to the idea of him. Must be the desperation!

 

[sparx100]

Levy isn’t appointing Potter.

The optics will look horrendous.

He was Chelsea’s worst permanent manager of the modern era and they’ve sacked him to bring in our best manager of the modern era…

No-one can get a tune out a purchased squad so I am not sure it reflects necessarily on his skillet.

I think it will take a big personality to go in and throw their weight around a bit by telling Boehly to keep out of the football side and figure out who is worth keeping and who isn't. On paper they have some bloody brilliant players but there are too many.

 

[Johnny J]

I respect the fact you apologised but actually I read back what I said and where I used the words "Stop participating with the club" That's such a poorly worded sentence, completely makes sense why you got the idea you did, so I take responsibility for the misunderstanding. Apologies to those who I interacted with last night and appreciate being challenged on it.

Good on you for posting this. We all have our moments, but this sort of reflection helps us have a better quality of discourse on here.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Just wonder how long this new manager debate will go on , season finishing then some internationals to get through and the football world will be on the beaches of the Caribbean and other far flung places. Nuno wasn't appointed until June 30th , can we look forward to another month of this.

 

[PrettyColors]

Big Ange is spanking the fuck out of a pub side in the Scottish League right now.

God the other team is gash. Absolutely horrible. Aberdeen I think? They’re trash.

it’ll be a massive step up in level. But I do like the fact that he knows how to dominate a match and has a plan for inferior competition. A lot of our supposed serial winners (looking at you Mou and Conte) never figured that out.

 

[maltahotspur]

Big Ange is spanking the fuck out of a pub side in the Scottish League right now.

God the other team is gash. Absolutely horrible. Aberdeen I think? They’re trash.

it’ll be a massive step up in level. But I do like the fact that he knows how to dominate a match and has a plan for inferior competition. A lot of our supposed serial winners (looking at you Mou and Conte) never figured that out.

Yes agreed. However, he can only face and beat the teams he faces. Besides, he has a tremendous knack for unearthing unknown gems.

 

[Danny1]

Seen a few posts like this and feel compelled to give my perspective.

Things are awful right now. As bad as I can remember really. I tell myself that I’m not sure about renewing - but I know I will.

Yes, It irritates me that the investments I make, whether in terms of time, energy, or money are either not appreciated, or misdirected. However, I support Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Always have, always will.

In my way, I’m still supporting and cheering for Mackay, Greaves, Blanchflower, Jones, Knowles, Perryman, Hoddle,, Mabbut, Roberts, Keane, Modric, Berbatov - you get the picture.

I keep renewing not because I want to contribute to profits or share prices, but because it’s at the heart of what it means to me to be a supporter.

All things must pass. Whether it’s the situation we find ourselves in right now, or our time at the ‘top table’ remains to be seen, but THFC will be here long after Levy calls it a day. So too will I.

That is very admirable I will admit and you are harder nosed that I certainly am.

I guess just from my point of view I don’t look at it as our club at this point in time. I’ve got to the point that it’s a business first and foremost and we, as long time supporters, mean next to nothing.

There is no interest in our joy, our history, our passion, our memories of glory moments at our great club, and if/when Kane leaves this squad is mid to lower table and I would not be surprised to see us languishing in 14-15th place come the end of next season.

I hope for everyone who has bought or renewed their season ticket that I am wrong and we have a good season, I’m just so disillusioned with this club right now.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Yes agreed. However, he can only face and beat the teams he faces. Besides, he has a tremendous knack for unearthing unknown gems.

So, we should hire him as DOF/Head of Recruiting?

 

[jpascavitz]

Big Ange is spanking the fuck out of a pub side in the Scottish League right now.

God the other team is gash. Absolutely horrible. Aberdeen I think? They’re trash.

it’ll be a massive step up in level. But I do like the fact that he knows how to dominate a match and has a plan for inferior competition. A lot of our supposed serial winners (looking at you Mou and Conte) never figured that out.

The things I like to see is that Celtic is just so bought in despite having the title wrapped up

 

[Arden]

Big Ange is spanking the fuck out of a pub side in the Scottish League right now.

God the other team is gash. Absolutely horrible. Aberdeen I think? They’re trash.

it’ll be a massive step up in level. But I do like the fact that he knows how to dominate a match and has a plan for inferior competition. A lot of our supposed serial winners (looking at you Mou and Conte) never figured that out.

Bit different doing it with your first team who play week in week out together.

Different to do it with hangers on and de-motivated b-team players

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Yeah trust me, I had a mare last night in articulating myself across those posts because of my own frustrations with the situation so I completely understand. I respect the fact you apologised but actually I read back what I said and where I used the words "Stop participating with the club" That's such a poorly worded sentence, completely makes sense why you got the idea you did, so I take responsibility for the misunderstanding.

Apologies to those who I interacted with last night and appreciate being challenged on it. I'll be honest and I think it was avoiding saying this that ended up getting me twisted like a pretzel, I have frustrations with those who keep buying tickets and going to games because I feel like that is what allows Levy to keep making mediocre managerial appointments. I mean Trix literally posted yesterday that allegedly Daniel's attitude is "Football fans are fickle, they'll forget after a few games". So my view is that us keep getting memberships (myself included btw) and season tickets (a far greater commitment), are proving that attitude correct.

So I see that as not only does he think he has the power to do what he wants, when I see the posts saying we don't have a choice, my intention is to try and show those feeling helpless to the situation that we do have some power or try and give it to us. I think every time this topic comes up I've repeatedly made the mistake of lacking empathy towards particularly the season ticket holders who have the connections they do and it's the way that families bond. I understand that, Spurs is one of the few ways I can connect with my family too and I think the error we make is thinking that we will never find an alternative approach that doesn't involve giving the club money. I want to articulate myself to actually help people feel they have some power in the situation, instead I appear to have done the opposite thus far. I think this is because when I think I know a solution to a problem and people ignore it but keep falling to the victim to the problem, in this case, spurs having us over a barrel, I think I show impatience and it's the arrogance of thinking I know best and I hate when I fall into that so apologies.

I know people might say this has little to do with the next manager but to me it does, I think our relationship as fans with the club is what allows them to take the piss and I fucking hate being taken the piss out of and want us to do something about it, not protests where we go to the club shop before and after, not chanting in paid seats but actually hit them in the only place they seem to care. I'll try do better at accepting others don't see it that way though

Fair play mate good self reflection and post, we are all frustrated but good on your for apologising and seeing how you came across last night, that takes balls

I know we are all doom and gloom and yes if we get this wrong and Kane leaves the outlook could look very worrying indeed but the fact we tried to go for Slot is a big positive and there are even now still a good 3-4 very decent options available so let’s hope we can pivot to one of those sooner rather than later and that they and the new DofF start to build a new exciting project so all of us can just get back to enjoying supporting the club and feeling a bit more positive about it all.

We are all emotional as we all care about Tottenham deeply and we aren’t asking for much as fans, at this point just some half decent attacking football and some semblance of a project/plan that we can get behind.

This thread blurs lines at times but I think the slat few days there has been some fantastic discussion all round.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

God the other team is gash. Absolutely horrible. Aberdeen I think? They’re trash.

Really shows the level of the league right now - Aberdeen are 3rd in the table... with a (-1) goal differential.

 

[worcestersauce]

I disagree because I believe Potter flatters to deceive. He gets his teams playing possession football but it’s possession for the sake of possession. He doesn’t know how to set his team up to score goals. De Zerbi came in and with the same group of players is getting more shots on goal than any team bar City.
Plus he’s very boring.

The same ish group of players with the addition of Mitoma and Caicedo who as per Brighton's business model had both been out on loan the season before having arrived the previous summer. Also with the addition of Ferguson and the coming of age of Mac Allister.
I think they are game changing additions compared to Maupay and Trossard. Di Zerbi, good as he may be, got lucky with his timing taking over a side brought to the brink by Potter.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Really shows the level of the league right now - Aberdeen are 3rd in the table... with a (-1) goal differential.

71 mins in and Aberdeen have had 25% possssion and 0 shots. Celtic 75% possssion and 15 shots.

Partly the huge gap in the league partly because Big Ange plays a pep style of very dominant possession attacking football

 

[danielneeds]

Anyone else really struggling with the Nagelsmann situation.

The guys a coaching prodigy, arguably a genius and is available. Meanwhile we have gone out of our way to stress we don't want him and are now being linked with people not fit to lace his boots.

What the hell are they playing at? Get a DOF he wants and then give him whatever else he needs. It's insane were throwing darts around in the dark whilst he is sitting there.

As much as I hate Levy and his clown show, I just get the feeling that they talked to him and he was luke-warm, one foot in, one foot out. After Conte, they obviously don’t want another coach who’s gonna be looking for the exit door a few months down the line.

As much as I want Levy to promise him the world and follow through, I’m realistic enough to know that with no Europe, no players to sell with much market value, and £70m of loans to turn permanent in Porro and Deki, we’re not gonna be spending big this summer.

As good as Nagelsmann is, if he’s not all in, then we’re better off looking elsewhere as it’ll just be another shitshow.

 

[piedpiper]

Just thought I would make you all feel better

This day 9 years ago we appointed Poch

Twist the knife in a little harder... you almost there