New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Lilbaz]

But there's a gazillion posts!

Yes that people have taken time and effort to update with new information and pictures.
There's also 11k posts on skyscrapercity about the stadium. If you have a quick read once a week you might understand what we are doing and why we are doing it.

As i have said we have hundreds of people working at whl that will be effected by a move out wherever it may be. This decision has been planned and thought out. It was not taken lightly.

 

[SpursManChris]

How are we losing whl? Because the new stadium will be named after a sponsor? Doesn't stop you calling it whatever you want.

Yeah, you're right about that but I thought it might harm the WHL name a little. St. James' Park doesn't appear to have been affected though.

The roof has to go up in one go.

Yeah, I don't think you're getting what I'm asking. I was asking if the resulting roof will be over the pitch, covering the entire stadium so that it will have the potential to be totally enclosed. I genuinely know fuck all about our new stadium's design.

It is no secret that we have had talks with mk. It has been all over the media. It is not our first choice but has been agreed in principle if we can't get wembley or the os.

We've had talks? Talks doesn't mean a contract in principle. Regardless, you'd have to wonder why it wasn't mentioned in the board to board meeting.

I have no idea why you are upset. This is going ahead.

I'm upset? I'm not at all upset. Of course it is going ahead! That's what I'd be afraid of if we didn't have a fallback. Not that MK Don's is much of a fallback, I mean if it came between the Don's or staying put at WHL without having the retractable pitch and lose out on some event money, I know where I'd stand and I'm not even attending matches!

 

[Lilbaz]

Yeah, you're right about that but I thought it might harm the WHL name a little. St. James' Park doesn't appear to have been affected though.

Yeah, I don't think you're getting what I'm asking. I was asking if the resulting roof will be over the pitch, covering the entire stadium so that it will have the potential to be totally enclosed. I genuinely know fuck all about our new stadium's design.

We've had talks? Talks doesn't mean a contract in principle. Regardless, you'd have to wonder why it wasn't mentioned in the board to board meeting.

I'm upset? I'm not at all upset. Of course it is going ahead! That's what I'd be afraid of if we didn't have a fallback. Not that MK Don's is much of a fallback, I mean if it came between the Don's or staying put at WHL without having the retractable pitch and lose out on some event money, I know where I'd stand and I'm not even attending matches!

The roof is not totally enclosed. There are pictures of the new stadium on the new stadium forum.

The supporters trust only asked about wembley and the os thus mk was not discussed but has been in previous meetings.

 

[SpursManChris]

Because you started the thread coming across not that you were genuinely interested in the stadium but rather as an excuse to attack levy. You even attacked him in your original question before snyone answered.
If you don't want to come across as a troll maybe just discuss the new stadium and why we are doing the things we are doing and leave the levy bashing to the threads about levy.

I still can't believe you think I was attacking Levy. I even attacked him in my original question? All I did was ask why he had opted away from staying put without a plan, even though my question was not based on fact, but I was just posing why he may have taken that risk. And you consider that attacking someone?
Bloody hell mate, you must see alot of violence in this world,
much more than the rest of us, if that's your definition of attacking.

 

[Lilbaz]

I still can't believe you think I was attacking Levy. I even attacked him in my original question? All I did was ask why he had opted away from staying put without a plan, even though my question was not based on fact, but I was just posing why he may have taken that risk. And you consider that attacking someone?
Bloody hell mate, you must see alot of violence in this world,
much more than the rest of us, if that's your definition of attacking.

You put it as that levy didn't have a clue what he was doing before getting answers.
Then carried on with the impression that he had somehow fucked up even after saying you hadn't followed the developments.

There was a reason the thread was locked.

If you are genuinely interested chris then fine i apologise and will answer your questions/concerns as best i can. It's just this is an excellent thread that has been trolled numerous times in the past. I just want to keep it as a stadium thread rather than pro/anti levy crap which we have other threads for.

 

[Lilbaz]

As you could see from the minutes we thought that wembley and the os were no go's. This has changed recently. Chelseas 4 year bid changed wembleys stance and the freedom of information has let slip that west ham does not have a veto on the os.
Great news.

 

[Lilbaz]

Seems Brady has fucked up again. Seems she let loose a statement on west hams official site saying that west ham would be happy to disclose all information surrounding the deal as they had nothing to hide but they couldn't in sympathy to e20. It lasted a full 5 minutes before it was pulled down.
E20 can't argue about revealing it as they work on behalf of the tax payer so it looks like they might have to reveal all details.
Well done karren. I knew you'd bullshit yourself into trouble, you just can't help yourself.
She also revealed some details such as they have to pay more if they finish higher than 10th etc...

 

[whitesocks]

I cannot believe we would simply move to Milton Keynes for 1 or more years.
However, if Wembley say, are charging a fortune per game,
it certainly makes sense to play europa and league cup games at a venue more suited to the smaller crowds.

 

[Lilbaz]

I cannot believe we would simply move to Milton Keynes for 1 or more years.
However, if Wembley say, are charging a fortune per game,
it certainly makes sense to play europa and league cup games at a venue more suited to the smaller crowds.

According to the minutes (front page). Wembley weren't going to allow a football club to play there. Then chelsea came in with a 4 year deal and they got greedy. But they can't be seen to play favourites so are now discussing whether we can share or if we can have one year then chelsea 4 years after.

There is no veto on the os by west ham. They can only argue that it will make the pitch unplayable. Which will be determined by an expert. E20 can't turn us down as we would bring in more money for the tax payer.

We could play league games at wembley and cup games at the os. Win win for us and fuck everyone else.

Brady also let slip that they are paying £2.5m a year rent. Silly girl.

 

[sideways]

Seems Brady has fucked up again. Seems she let loose a statement on west hams official site saying that west ham would be happy to disclose all information surrounding the deal as they had nothing to hide but they couldn't in sympathy to e20. It lasted a full 5 minutes before it was pulled down.
E20 can't argue about revealing it as they work on behalf of the tax payer so it looks like they might have to reveal all details.
Well done karren. I knew you'd bullshit yourself into trouble, you just can't help yourself.
She also revealed some details such as they have to pay more if they finish higher than 10th etc...

Bless Google for being so efficient - they have a cached copy of the page sitting there with all her bleatings intact

 

[Lilbaz]

Bless Google for being so efficient - they have a cached copy of the page sitting there with all her bleatings intact

Also on ssc in the os thread. Really hope this bites her in the arse.

 

[worcestersauce]

If there is a deal and we know about it, then it's hardly confidential.

I don't know about it.

 

[spursfan77]

As you could see from the minutes we thought that wembley and the os were no go's. This has changed recently. Chelseas 4 year bid changed wembleys stance and the freedom of information has let slip that west ham does not have a veto on the os.
Great news.

If I could put money on it I suspect we will now end up on holiday at the Olympic Stadium. Wembley and the FA will just want Chelsea's money over us and the OS is a better alternative to us moving out of the capital. I don't like the thought of us moving there really after all thats happened.

 

[camaj]

After reading the THST board to board thread, you can surely forgive me for thinking that the only two options are Wembley and OS as nothing else was discussed. I genuinely thought that Levy was just hoping that we secured one of them and if that was the case, then you would surely have to agree with me that it would be madness to proceed with no plan.

I think you're probably guilty of assuming that if you don't hear about something it doesn't exist. Levy isn't going to tell us everything, it's pretty hard to get anything concrete out of the club, don't assume we've been told everything therefore there's no contingency or that no contingency means we'll be stuck.

 

[Lilbaz]

If I could put money on it I suspect we will now end up on holiday at the Olympic Stadium. Wembley and the FA will just want Chelsea's money over us and the OS is a better alternative to us moving out of the capital. I don't like the thought of us moving there really after all thats happened.

It looks a horrible stadium for football. But i'd love to rub her fat nose in it.

 

[brisbanespur]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I for one am nervous about not playing at home for a year, which got me thinking if they had not built the Saindburys could they have fitted the new stadium in without having to demolish the current one first?

 

[beats1]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I for one am nervous about not playing at home for a year, which got me thinking if they had not built the Saindburys could they have fitted the new stadium in without having to demolish the current one first?

No, that isn't the issue. The northern part of the stadium structure will be finished when we leave(not the roof though) There is a bigger plan for the South stand development which will have a big "basement"(its not a basement but it is like that since there there will be a podium on top of it which though above street level it will actually be the level at which people enter the south stand in) which will be built where WHL currently sits. Its not possible to build that and finish the stadium in a couple of months and finish the stadium

 

[brisbanespur]

I guess my question is not really about the design more about dimensions, it's hard to judge from the ariel photos how big lilyehite house is, I love the design by the way.

 

[worcestersauce]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I for one am nervous about not playing at home for a year, which got me thinking if they had not built the Saindburys could they have fitted the new stadium in without having to demolish the current one first?

The north end of the site has all the listed buildings along the high road that we couldn't demolish and houses on Worcester avenue so it wouldn't have been able to fit in the space between and Sainsbury probably had to have an entrance off the High road, plus being in the centre makes it a touch more grand don't you think.

 

[brisbanespur]

That makes sense,thanks still concerned about the affect on performances while we are away from WHL,