Morgan Schneiderlin

[Xeeleeyid]

I would sell Dembele and Sandro which should raise around £25-£30 million.

Capoue/Schneirderlin - Defensive mids
Paulinho/Holtby - Box to box

I wouldn't be too quick to sell Dembele. He has all the attributes to be an absolute beast of a Premier League midfielder. I'd like to see what a proper coach can do with him, rather than the overly defensive AVB who stifled his ability or the "do what the hell you like" style of Sherwood.

 

[TickleSh1ts]

Dembele, Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Holtby, Bentaleb, Carroll, Mason and Veljkovic = 8 people that can play CM.

Kaboul, Vertonghen, Dawson, Chirches, Fryers and Veljkovic = 6 people that can play CB.

Looking at the CM position we have 5/6 players that can walk into the majority of Prem teams, whereas CB we have 2/3 that are of a similar standard.

I can only assume Poch is well aware of the glaringly obvious that us keyboard warriors point out, what we don't know is what deals are going on behind the scenes.

He would only be in for Schneiderlin if we are selling a CM or two.

Otherwise he is damn well aware that we need a decent CB ASAP.

On a personal note, I would prefer a senior CB from another prem team as I feel that can not really afford the time of integrating a foreign CB.. (So someone like Vlaar that we have been linked with).

CM I think Schneiderlin would be a good replacement for Sandro.

And whilst I am here, I would like a foreign young left winger on the cheap (Depay/Bakkali).

 

[Spurs 1961]

I agree, I've probably got my spurs blinkers on and am buying into the he loves Poch rumours a fair bit as it suits me lol

Arsenal aren't the sort of club either as a rule to pay saints crazy demands so at least we have that in our favour, I don't think they will blow us out do the water with regards to the transfer fee & will be happy to also play the long game. They could of course offer higher wages if they want to but I just have a suspicion that he's not a player they would want to throw crazy money at. Although I think he would be great for them, they might not see him as a Hollywood signing, he's more likely to be on a reserve list or seen as a slight upgrade on arteta etc where as he's someone we want to build around. He'll like that I'm sure.

Time will tell. I guess after Jan though there is hope that we can beat arsenal to signings and with the Poch factor I would expect us to get something from the saints fire sale & there's only MS & J-Rod left.
It would be very spurs though if after all the saints departures the only one we signed is the guy with the dodgy knee lol

Is it possible that they don't want to sell to their former manager's new club? Is Poch a hindrance in getting saints players? Anyway I can't remember a sale like this since Leeds

 

[shelfboy68]

Im not sure this thread is relevant anymore there is No way we will pay 20 million or more even if he is a good player unless which is very unlikely it drops down to between 12-15 nothing will happen its probably time tolook elsewhere.

 

[Mr Pink]

Im not sure this thread is relevant anymore there is No way we will pay 20 million or more even if he is a good player unless which is very unlikely it drops down to between 12-15 nothing will happen its probably time tolook elsewhere.

All about who we sell, so it depends how badly Pochettino wants him and who he'd be prepared to sell to raise funds.

So its far from being over yet. My money is still on us signing him after moving on one or two.

 

[shelfboy68]

All about who we sell, so it depends how badly Pochettino wants him and who he'd be prepared to sell to raise funds.

So its far from being over yet. My money is still on us signing him after moving on one or two.

You seem confident mr p i hope your right as he looks to be a decent player and would be a welcome addition.

 

[sloth]

I can't see Southampton selling him, unless the new owner is a mere asset stripper, long-term it doesn't make sense for them, this summer's business already has to have made them a prime candidate for relegation, there's no benefit to getting a few million now, only to lose out on the PL millions next year.

 

[Mr Pink]

You seem confident mr p i hope your right as he looks to be a decent player and would be a welcome addition.

I'm not overly confident but I still think there is a reasonable chance.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Schneiderlin is what he is because of Pochettino. The more I think about the more I'd rather not pay the kind of price being spoken of.
What if Pochettino can work on someone like Bentaleb? Lambert said re Lallana that Pochettino made him stronger and he gained a yard of pace. What if we get a stronger, faster Paulinho. What if we get a Dembele with more end product.
One of the issues spoken of Dembele and Paulinho is that they don't move the ball quick enough, this is coaching and tactics surely. These guys are international footballers.
I'm pretty comfortable with leaving it as is in terms of midfield. We brought in Pochettino one of main reasons was the levels he had Soton playing at, the fact he improved and had the majority of that squad playing at top of game. It baffles me that we base player performance on last season.

 

[Franchise60]

Seems weird to not want him because Poch made him better. Obviously you'd have to think Poch was well aware of his abilities and what he brings to the team.

Plus, just because he improved Schneiderlin doesn't mean ever other midfielder will suddenly become among the best in the league.

As for Dembele and Paulinho, they might not even be competing for the same role in the system as Scheiderlin.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Seems weird to not want him because Poch made him better. Obviously you'd have to think Poch was well aware of his abilities and what he brings to the team.

Plus, just because he improved Schneiderlin doesn't mean ever other midfielder will suddenly become among the best in the league.

As for Dembele and Paulinho, they might not even be competing for the same role in the system as Scheiderlin.

I never said I don't want him. I said before we so easily write off certain players should take into consideration the amounts he improved Schneiderlin, Lambert, Lallana, Davis, Rodriguez and Cork.
I know not everyone will automatically improve but these current players are very talented, the thing that has been an issue for me is workrate, tempo and positioning for a lot of them, something that will definitely improve under Pochettino.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

If we pay more then £15m for him them I'm gonna be like:

 

[DaSpurs]

If we pay more then £15m for him them I'm gonna be like:

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And then Poch'll be all like:

 

[Mr Pink]

Seems weird to not want him because Poch made him better. Obviously you'd have to think Poch was well aware of his abilities and what he brings to the team.

Plus, just because he improved Schneiderlin doesn't mean ever other midfielder will suddenly become among the best in the league.

As for Dembele and Paulinho, they might not even be competing for the same role in the system as Scheiderlin.

Exactly.

Its one thing to improve players etc but when it comes down to it they have to show it when they cross that white line.

Agree on Dembele and Pualinho as well.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

And then Poch'll be all like:

He looks like he just farted and knows a hot chick heard it.

Waits for @y1dk1d to spam this.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Exactly.

Its one thing to improve players etc but when it comes down to it they have to show it when they cross that white line.

Agree on Dembele and Pualinho as well.

And when have they had the chance to show it? If these players are simply not good enough and what we saw was them at peak performance last season then why is Pochettino here?
One of best Southampton performances I saw was first half away at Man City when they had Schneiderlin, Cork and Davis in midfield. We're saying Capoue, Paulinho and Eriksen can't perform at that level with proper coaching and tactics?
I think it's a misconception regarding Capoue, the guy is a seriously good passer of the ball and can easily play the Schneiderlin role. So if that's case then Paulinho and Dembele would be competing for CM spot.

 

[y1dk1d]

I only spammed it because I hate seeing a highlighted thread (especially when it's one of the players I want to sign most) expecting an update or some sort of insight yet I see people post unfunny photos as a bid to achieve positive ratings. Happens ALL the time and it's seriously boring.

Anyway, moving on...

Sorry, replied to the wrong post. Meant for @TottenhamMattSpur

 

[DJS]

He looks like he just farted and knows a hot chick heard it.

Waits for @y1dk1d to spam this.

*spams post*...

 

[talkshowhost86]

I can't see Southampton selling him, unless the new owner is a mere asset stripper, long-term it doesn't make sense for them, this summer's business already has to have made them a prime candidate for relegation, there's no benefit to getting a few million now, only to lose out on the PL millions next year.

Sadly I think the Lovren transfer means that they're unlikely to sell again this Summer. At least until they've brought in a whole host of players anyway.

Unless Schneiderlin kicks up a fuss, I don't think this deal will be happening any time soon.

 

[DaSpurs]

I only spammed it because I hate seeing a highlighted thread (especially when it's one of the players I want to sign most) expecting an update or some sort of insight yet I see people post unfunny photos as a bid to achieve positive ratings. Happens ALL the time and it's seriously boring.

Anyway, moving on...

Yes... moar ratings please.

This place is awful in the summer. The amount of presumption and disrespect for one another spikes dramatically this time of year. Sickening what this transfer window does to our interaction with our own fellow fans.