Lets all laugh at Newcastle

[Tucker]

I mean we are in the let's all laugh at Newcastle thread. Thought it would be funny that they aren't the fans they think they are. Wasn't expecting a Knight in shining black and white armour to come in on the defensive

Nah just comes across as mocking people for being less well off tbh.

 

[luRRka]

Nah just comes across as mocking people for being less well off tbh.

Fair enough. I certainly didn't intend for it to come off that way

 

[SpringHeeledJim]

People laugh at City for not selling tickets for home games all the time. Not sure why we shouldn't be having a chuckle at the Geordies failure to sell tickets for a glamour away Champions League game either.

They and the media tell the world that they have enormous support and are bigger than medium sized clubs like Spurs so bollocks to them

 

[ERO]

Big enough city and claimed global support. Laughing at them for this in this thread is fair game.

 

[wakefieldyid]

Why do people care?

It’s clearly related to the cost of living crisis, and the average wage in the north east. People can probably barely afford their season tickets let alone time off and midweek trips to frigging Milan.

Are there even direct flights to Milan from there?

You'd think that laying on a few subsidised flights from Newcastle to Milan would be easy enough for one of the PIF's arm's length commercial partners, and it would be relatively simple to argue that it had no FFP implications.

 

[Styopa]

There are well-off people living up north too. I’ve met quite a few. It seems a bit patronising to me to assume because they’re outside London/the South their fans can’t afford a mid-week trip to Milan. I’m sure lots of them can’t but so can’t lots of Londoners.

 

[ernie78]

As a northerner I find The “don’t take the piss, our salaries are higher in London so we have more expendable income, poor them can’t enjoy the finer things in life” a bit condescending.
whilst I won’t argue there is a difference in salaries and we are in a COL crisis it’s not like everyone in London is on £150k and the streets are paved with gold.
the stance also does not take into account that it’s a lot bloody cheaper up north.

After 14yrs living in London I moved back up north last year. My wages may be £4k less a year but my mortgage is half of what it was (for a much bigger house)
Newcastle has some pretty affluent areas too.

Screw the sports washed wankers

 

[Gassin's finest]

As a northerner I find The “don’t take the piss, our salaries are higher in London so we have more expendable income, poor them can’t enjoy the finer things in life” a bit condescending.
whilst I won’t argue there is a difference in salaries and we are in a COL crisis it’s not like everyone in London is on £150k and the streets are paved with gold.
the stance also does not take into account that it’s a lot bloody cheaper up north.

After 14yrs living in London I moved back up north last year. My wages may be £4k less a year but my mortgage is half of what it was (for a much bigger house)
Newcastle has some pretty affluent areas too.

Screw the sports washed wankers

Being a northerner as well I too dislike this bundling of "the north" into some amalgamation... like everything above Sheffield is devastation and council estates. I was referencing the North East, and Tyneside in particular, where I lived for nearly a decade, and half my family are from. And there is absolutely a gap between that region and London. 1m v 10m population, with a higher proportion of people earning 50k+ in the latter, definitely means less people being able to afford an expensive trip to Milan, for example. The effects of deindustrialization are still prevalent.

 

[Styopa]

Being a northerner as well I too dislike this bundling of "the north" into some amalgamation... like everything above Sheffield is devastation and council estates. I was referencing the North East, and Tyneside in particular, where I lived for nearly a decade, and half my family are from. And there is absolutely a gap between that region and London. 1m v 10m population, with a higher proportion of people earning 50k+ in the latter, definitely means less people being able to afford an expensive trip to Milan, for example. The effects of deindustrialization are still prevalent.

There are definitely larger numbers of rich people living in London than Newcastle. But when I visit my friend in Sheffield I don’t experience a wealth gap among ordinary people compared to their counterparts in London. I actually think the opposite is true.

My friend is able to afford a lovely three storey, three bedroom house in a central area of the city and is able to eat out in nice restaurants and bars on his relatively modest salary as a teacher. There’s no way his equivalent in London is able to afford all that plus slope off on a midweek break to Milan just because he’s on London money.

 

[spursfan77]

There are well-off people living up north too. I’ve met quite a few. It seems a bit patronising to me to assume because they’re outside London/the South their fans can’t afford a mid-week trip to Milan. I’m sure lots of them can’t but so can’t lots of Londoners.

Some of the posts are giving me flat cap and living down a pit vibes. They haven’t been in Europe for 10 years, they have the chance to go to one of the most iconic grounds in football (even if it is past it’s best) nobody can convince me their fans wouldn’t just whack it on their credit cards and worry about it later. They haven’t been able to sell out because there isn’t the interest, they are in a hard group and their fans don’t want to pay to go watch them lose and finish bottom of their group.

 

[Gassin's finest]

There are definitely larger numbers of rich people living in London than Newcastle. But when I visit my friend in Sheffield I don’t experience a wealth gap among ordinary people compared to their counterparts in London. I actually think the opposite is true.

My friend is able to afford a lovely three storey, three bedroom house in a central area of the city and is able to eat out in nice restaurants and bars on his relatively modest salary as a teacher. There’s no way his equivalent in London is able to afford all that plus slope off on a midweek break to Milan just because he’s on London money.

Yeah, you're talking about Sheffield, an absolutely massive city and industrial heartbeat. It's also barely halfway up the map. Newcastle is much further north, to the point where it's almost cut off from the rest of the country. It's not part of that rust belt below the Pennines, like Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds etc.

It's hardly rolling in poverty, but you can't generically lump "the north" in together.

 

[Styopa]

Yeah, you're talking about Sheffield, an absolutely massive city and industrial heartbeat. It's also barely halfway up the map. Newcastle is much further north, to the point where it's almost cut off from the rest of the country. It's not part of that rust belt below the Pennines, like Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds etc.

It's hardly rolling in poverty, but you can't generically lump "the north" in together.

No, you’re right, I shouldn’t lump it all in one. I have friends from uni living in Sunderland and Durham though and again I would probably say the same thing about them.

But anyway, I don’t want to make it into a tit for tat about I know such and such a person who is making x amount. My point more was this idea that Londoners can afford things like mid week trips to Milan whereas northerners can’t doesn’t do justice to northerners or Londoners.

I’m Irish, I live in Poland now, I’ve lived in Nottingham and lived in London most of my life. I’ve seen a mixture of poor, average rich etc people everywhere I’ve lived. But probably the biggest disparity between the rich and poor that I have seen has been in London. I certainly see more poverty in London than I do in the city I live in Poland. I see less ultra rich people around here too but the fact a city has lots of rich people doesn’t necessarily help it’s poor people.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

One problem for Newcastle fans is there doesn't seem to be any direct flights from Newcastle to Milan, Easyjet recommend geting a flight from Edinburgh 120 miles away !!!

PS Actually there is a direct flight on Tuesdays to Milan Bergamo with Ryanair, doesn't arrive until 20:30 local time , might just make the final whistle
Londoners are spoilt for choice with airports surrounding the city, other parts of UK not so fortunate. I can understand why tickets have not sold quickly for their game in Milan

 

[Gassin's finest]

No, you’re right, I shouldn’t lump it all in one. I have friends from uni living in Sunderland and Durham though and again I would probably say the same thing about them.

But anyway, I don’t want to make it into a tit for tat about I know such and such a person who is making x amount. My point more was this idea that Londoners can afford things like mid week trips to Milan whereas northerners can’t doesn’t do justice to northerners or Londoners.

I’m Irish, I live in Poland now, I’ve lived in Nottingham and lived in London most of my life. I’ve seen a mixture of poor, average rich etc people everywhere I’ve lived. But probably the biggest disparity between the rich and poor that I have seen has been in London. I certainly see more poverty in London than I do in the city I live in Poland. I see less ultra rich people around here too but the fact a city has lots of rich people doesn’t necessarily help it’s poor people.

And tbf this is probably being made more of an issue than it needs to be. I ultimately found the post about not selling out the away allotment as petty, all things considered.

And yes, having lived in London for a while now, this city feels practically third world at times.

 

[aliyid]

Newcastle is much further north, to the point where it's almost cut off from the rest of the country.

If only….

I joke obviously, there’s a fine line between banter and punching down. I think in this case it’s more mocking their ‘big club’ support rather than delving into relative poverty levels (ironic given the dirty money being pumped into the club).

That said, the chance to see your team play in San Siro before it’s pulled down for your first CL tie in 20yrs…. I’m shocked they didn’t sell out within minutes

 

[silveraeon]

I know a Celtic fan who says everyone from England is from the south

 

[Gassin's finest]

If only….

I joke obviously, there’s a fine line between banter and punching down. I think in this case it’s more mocking their ‘big club’ support rather than delving into relative poverty levels (ironic given the dirty money being pumped into the club).

That said, the chance to see your team play in San Siro before it’s pulled down for your first CL tie in 20yrs…. I’m shocked they didn’t sell out within minutes

With Newcastle their are 2 things going on. One is huge elation and over correction going on in Tyneside right now, after the decade and a half of Ashley led misery. The highs of Keegan and Robson were still fresh when he took over, and he nearly killed the club.

This leads into two, which is that I have never known a town, especially a one club town, that lives and breathes it's football like Newcastle. The whole mood of it changes depending on the football clubs current situation. So they talk about themselves like that because it's like life to them.

That said, I think the reality of how damn expensive things are now (it's not a cost of living crisis, it's a fucking scam is what it is) are what's really at play.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I know a Celtic fan who says everyone from England is from the south

I'd hardly been further south than S****horpe before I was 18, except for abroad. Anything past Thirsk felt weird.

 

[McFlash]

I know a Celtic fan

Oh fuck off!

 

[aliyid]

This leads into two, which is that I have never known a town, especially a one club town, that lives and breathes it's football like Newcastle. The whole mood of it changes depending on the football clubs current situation. So they talk about themselves like that because it's like life to them.

It’s quite eye-opening when you chat with geordies who’ve never ventured outside the region.

One of the guys I used to work with genuinely believed Newcastle were huge because ‘they’re always featured in newspapers while the likes of Spurs are never mentioned…’

He refused to believe there are regional versions of coverage till he came down south for a work do. Was like somebody told him the Easter bunny wasn’t real