Lamela

[raf18]

So let me get this right...

Townsend played on the left at youth level. He played on the right for QPR and was in very good form at Premier League level.

He didn't start the first game of the season, but got his chance in the first Europa League game of the season - playing on the right. He scored, then assisted two and therefore earned a run in the side pre-Lamela signing. Afterwards he was in good form on the right and earned a call up to England, where he was man of the match and scored on his debut, playing on the right.

So umm, yeah, he should never have been played on the right and Lamela should've walked stright in. Despite looking shit in the Europa league, bar one performance where he was moved central.

If anyone shouldn't be playing on the right it's Lamela.

Townsend is better on the left. We don't need another hundred shots to miss the back of the net. He's more helpful to the team on the left. All those shots and only one goal, which was a cross.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Townsend is better on the left. We don't need another hundred shots to miss the back of the net. He's more helpful to the team on the left. All those shots and only one goal, which was a cross.

Uh?

 

[Kendall]

Townsend is better on the left. We don't need another hundred shots to miss the back of the net. He's more helpful to the team on the left. All those shots and only one goal, which was a cross.

What the fuck. Tell me how? How can you say he's better on the left when he's hardly played there at senior level? When he got all of his senior goals playing on the right? when he got his England call up due to his form on the right? when he got MOM on his debut playing on the right?

You can't just say he's better on the left and benefits the team more on the left when you have barely a shred of evidence that backs up your claim.

 

[rabbikeane]

Townsend made Premier League dribble records at QPR from the right.
He shone and shot England to the World Cup from the right.
Think it's too easy to say he's at his best from the left,
he clearly can do both although a bit differently depending on what side he's on.
Where he's best suited for today's Spurs is another debate.

Erik Lamela, who the thread after all is about, can in my opinion not play very well from the left.
I know he at times played there in his younger days, but can't see him being effective for us there.
It's either support striker or inverted right winger for me, he's very one footed and isn't one to raid on the outside of a fullback to put in a cross. He want to finish with his left foot, from Serie A he's proven as a goal scorer. And he want to make runs towards the box and combine with other creative players, combination play 1-2s etc.

 

[raf18]

What's he actually produced on the right? You can't dismiss him on the left when he hasn't played there despite it being his natural position. I'm not saying he can't turn into a right sided player but right now he needs to learn how to play for the team. The best thing for the team is to put him on the left. He had the most shots in the league at one point with no goals or assists. You can be sure that him playing on the left will result in more goals for Soldado and Adebayor - players who know how to take their chances.

 

[Kendall]

What's he done on the right? You can't dismiss him on the left when he hasn't played there despite it being his natural position. I'm not saying he can't turn into a right sided player but right now he needs to learn how to play for the team. The best thing for the team is to put him on the left. He had the most shots in the league at one point with no goals or assists. You can be sure that him playing on the left will result in more goals for Soldado and Adebayor.

I've already said what he's done on the right, you bloody quoted it! And you can't be 'sure' of that at all. It's your guesswork.

I am in agreement with most that after initially starting well, his form wasn't great. Too many shots etc. BUT lets not forget that Soldado was isolated to everyone. Townsend has the ability to put a ball in with either foot. With two strikers, he may well be better on the right, though no guarantees.

This thread was about Lamela and TGL's point regarding why he didn't start immediately. Townsend had earned his run and was in good form by the time Lamela was on the scene.

 

[raf18]

I've already said what he's done on the right, you bloody quoted it! And you can't be 'sure' of that at all. It's your guesswork.

Yeah, my bad. Edited to produced. 1 goal and an assist. The goal was a cross.

 

[Kendall]

Yeah, my bad. Edited to produced. 1 goal and an assist. The goal was a cross.

2 assists and 1 goal in his first game.

Villa wasn't his first game.

 

[idontgetit]

What the fuck. Tell me how? How can you say he's better on the left when he's hardly played there at senior level? When he got all of his senior goals playing on the right? when he got his England call up due to his form on the right? when he got MOM on his debut playing on the right?

You can't just say he's better on the left and benefits the team more on the left when you have barely a shred of evidence that backs up your claim.

Because on the left Townsend is looking to be played in to space behind the back four whereas when he's played on the right he's played too deep, always coming short for the ball and trying to take on 3/4 players or shoot. He can play both sides but he is a much more dangerous player for the team on the left.

If you look at the highlight from Newcastle, where he had a good game, you can see what I mean. Always picking the ball up and running at players. We needed more of what you see around the 2.12 mark and when he's been on the left he seems much more suited to that

 

[Kendall]

Because on the left Townsend is looking to be played in to space behind the back four whereas when he's played on the right he's played too deep, always coming short for the ball and trying to take on 3/4 players or shoot. He can play both sides but he is a much more dangerous player for the team on the left.

If you look at the highlight from Newcastle, where he had a good game, you can see what I mean. Always picking the ball up and running at players. We needed more of what you see around the 2.12 mark and when he's been on the left he seems much more suited to that

Mate he did that all game against Villa on the right as well. He had their left back crying by the 70 minute mark, the guy was done in.

Oh yeah, he was man of the match in that game as well.

I think if we played with two forwards, you'd probably see more from Townsend in terms of playing the ball into the box. That includes if Lamela was playing with Ade.

 

[raf18]

The future is Townsend on the left, Eriksen in the middle, and Lamela on the right. One day it will happen.

 

[talkshowhost86]

If we're going to stick with 4-4-2 then I think at least one of our wingers needs to have some natural width. So regardless of where Townsend has played the majority of his games before, if he's in the team he'll probably have to do so on the left.

If we played Eriksen on the left (as we have been doing) and Townsend on the right then it would get very congested very quickly as neither would be looking to stay wide.

I think Townsend's best position would be on the right in a 4-3-3, but if that's not the system we're going with he might have to adapt

 

[idontgetit]

Mate he did that all game against Villa on the right as well. He had their left back crying by the 70 minute mark, the guy was done in.

Oh yeah, he was man of the match in that game as well.

I think if we played with two forwards, you'd probably see more from Townsend in terms of playing the ball into the box. That includes if Lamela was playing with Ade.

He played like that for 11 games straight and produced nothing for it because everything was done in front of the defence! That's why we looked better with Lennon in the side as everyone keeps banging on about, because Lennon didn't come short and instead always looked for the ball to be played in to space behind the defence.

 

[Kendall]

He played like that for 11 games straight and produced nothing for it because everything was done in front of the defence! That's why we looked better with Lennon in the side as everyone keeps banging on about, because Lennon didn't come short and instead always looked for the ball to be played in to space behind the defence.

He was man of the match 3 times earlier in the season. Like I keep on saying, I don't deny his form dropped off, but every man and his dog was in agreement that he was playing well in the beginning and therefore earned his run, despite the signing of Lamela.

Got nothing for it suggests direct stats. In the same way TGL says Lennon's final ball is still shit. Townsend put in a number of good crosses into the box, particularly at Villa (which stands out the most in my mind). But when we had nobody capable of attacking it, what's the point?

I even remember Soldado missing a glorious chance after a good Townsend assist against Hull. It has happened, he has put the ball in to other people. But as we have seen, Soldado in particular is toothless this year.

 

[idontgetit]

He was man of the match 3 times earlier in the season. Like I keep on saying, I don't deny his form dropped off, but every man and his dog was in agreement that he was playing well in the beginning and therefore earned his run, despite the signing of Lamela.

Got nothing for it suggests direct stats. In the same way TGL says Lennon's final ball is still shit. Townsend put in a number of good crosses into the box, particularly at Villa (which stands out the most in my mind). But when we had nobody capable of attacking it, what's the point?

I even remember Soldado missing a glorious chance after a good Townsend assist against Hull. It has happened, he has put the ball in to other people. But as we have seen, Soldado in particular is toothless this year.

Not arguing he didn't deserve to start but it should have been on the left over an out of position Siggy

 

[Kendall]

Not arguing he didn't deserve to start but it should have been on the left over an out of position Siggy

No it shouldn't. He'd impressed on the right for us last year at Carlisle, also at QPR on loan and also at Tbllisi. His best work to date had been on the right, he came into the team on the right and won MOM in his first two games. He was picked for England as a result of his form on the right, then scored for them on the right and got man of the match yet again, on the right.







Nah you're right, he should've been on the left.

 

[idontgetit]

Nah you're right, he should've been on the left.

Thankyou

 

[idontgetit]

No it shouldn't. He'd impressed on the right for us last year at Carlisle, also at QPR on loan and also at Tbllisi. His best work to date had been on the right, he came into the team on the right and won MOM in his first two games. He was picked for England as a result of his form on the right, then scored for them on the right and got man of the match yet again, on the right.







Nah you're right, he should've been on the left.

2013/14 English Premier League
46 shots, 1 goal, 0 assists, 14 games

Again you can see he plays too deep on the right, he relies on his take on's to get him in a good position and not the passing of others

 

[sam1972]

Can someone point me to the Townsend left or right? thread so I can talk about Lamela. Ta

 

[idontgetit]

Can someone point me to the Townsend left or right? thread so I can talk about Lamela. Ta

It's relevant as the argument has been whether Lamela should have been starting on the right for us or not and part of that discussion is whether Townsend deserved to be getting repeated starts in that position over him