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Everlasting Seconds

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So, rather than doing one of the usual "match reports and why the fudge does Townsend start"-posts, I thought I'd share some random snippets of other observations.

Stambouli is very much a part of the squad, despite not being amongst the 18. 1 hour before kick off, he was doing some laps across the pitch over and over again at 50-60 % speed (with the fitness coach). Other players not on in the squad were nowhere to be seen, but he was. I know what the kind of exercise he did is about, it's restitution.
You would do that either the day after a really specific heavy work out, or if you are in a general period of fatigue. So my suspicion is that Stambouli is on a special programme for now, and I'm kind of excited about him for the next season.

Rose is a (maybe the new) beast. He doesn't take shit from anybody, teammates, referees or opponents. He is an energetic fighter, with an improved sense of positioning. Rose is the package now ( I never thought I'd say that).

Walker isn't a bad defender, but he doesn't suit Pochettino's shit, which is funny because of his speed (which he has lost a part of after the injury). I think we may have sold the wrong Kyle.

The Defence operates as 4 individuals. There is minimal team work in that team section, and they hardly cover for each other. At one point, Bentaleb told Dier that he'd cover if Dier would take the ball up front. Dier was perplexed, for a split second he didn't know what to do when somebody covered for him. That's how unusual it is. The result was a magnificent attack led by Dier (and maybe Eriksen ?). Of course, the defence get's so little protection from the midfield that they have more than enough to worry about with their own spot never mind your team mates job too. So there may be acceptable excuses for the lack of interaction.

Speaking about Bentaleb, when he makes mistakes, they tend to be grave ones. Nothing to seriously came from them yesterday, but they looked nasty none the less. He is young and will grow, but that's where he is at presently.

Eriksen is still not bulky enough for PL. If you look at Kane, our best player, he is also the physically strongest. Eriksen isn't close to that level. Mason too, another success story this season, is also really physically fit. Eriksen has the body type of a successful goalie (ie. Lloris).

Speaking about Kane, the team hasn't scored for 3 matches. I chose these words deliberately, because for 3 PL matches, only Kane has scored. No other Tottenham player has scored in PL since vs. Swansea. So many took issue with AVB having Bale, and how AVB was lucky, and have Bale concealed all the issues in the team. If that was 100 % accurate, and let's say it was, what are we supposed to think now? In fact, all our 3 last head coaches got their butt saved multiple times by one single player.

Lloris' injury was profoundly avoidable.

Chadli's yellow card for filming was pure stupidity. It was unintelligent by the ref, at best. Chadli had a prime position, he had no reason to provoke a penalty and he was illegally taken down. Which brings me to the refs in general. I don't really think they all hate Spurs. But I do think they all are unfit for their job. The FA chooses experience (ie. old refs) over physical ability to keep up with the modern PL game, and as a results, we have loads of refs who are not up for the task anymore. There were always a couple of unsuitable refs, but now the unsuitable ones are everywhere. Next season will get really dirty if they stick with the same refs, because they are only getting older, weaker, slower and dumber.

4-3 isn't necessarily better football than 1-0. I'm easy to please, when my team wins, I'm entertained. But yes, I do like to see individual skill, masterminded tactics, great match management. And you don't necessarily get more of that with more goals, when the goals are in either end of the pitch. I think there were periods where we played really badly, vs. the team at the very bottom of the league. We would have lost yesterday 1-3 without Harry Kane. That is the bare truth of it all.

Paulinho looked really good yesterday. Only a fool would say otherwise. A part of me really hopes... but oh well.

Nugent is an adequate player. He is a daft prick, but an adequate one none the less.

I believe a deal for Soldado is more or less sealed. That is not based on observations, that simply gut feeling.

I'm glad we won, I was entertained, and I do like goals. But what stands out more than the win, is the work cut out for this team in the summer.
 

Good Doctor M

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Chadli dived mate... Anyone not a Spurs fan with lilywhite glasses on could see that. It was embarrassing.

Kane's scoring, but I would argue that he isn't carrying us. The difference was, when Bale was scoring, he was pulling goals out of nothing and saving our necks. Kane wouldn't have the same amount of goals if he was playing in AVBs team. He's playing a system that suits him. And he's being set up for these goals. Bale simply wasn't. He was shooting from 30 yards and scoring. Big difference to Kane's goals.

Everything else I more or less agree with.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Chadli dived mate... Anyone not a Spurs fan with lilywhite glasses on could see that. It was embarrassing.


Everything else I more or less agree with.
Really? Wow. I saw it from behind, unhindered view but maybe 60 meters away. To me it looked like a chubby bastard with a combustion engine ran him down. Oh well. I'm glad the ref got one decision right.
 

ohh_when_the_spurs

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Jun 12, 2008
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We would have lost 3-1 without kane? Well that is hard to prove but playing with 10 men fron the start usually is a bad move!!!!
 

Monkey boy

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So, rather than doing one of the usual "match reports and why the fudge does Townsend start"-posts, I thought I'd share some random snippets of other observations.

Stambouli is very much a part of the squad, despite not being amongst the 18. 1 hour before kick off, he was doing some laps across the pitch over and over again at 50-60 % speed (with the fitness coach). Other players not on in the squad were nowhere to be seen, but he was. I know what the kind of exercise he did is about, it's restitution.
You would do that either the day after a really specific heavy work out, or if you are in a general period of fatigue. So my suspicion is that Stambouli is on a special programme for now, and I'm kind of excited about him for the next season.

Rose is a (maybe the new) beast. He doesn't take shit from anybody, teammates, referees or opponents. He is an energetic fighter, with an improved sense of positioning. Rose is the package now ( I never thought I'd say that).

Walker isn't a bad defender, but he doesn't suit Pochettino's shit, which is funny because of his speed (which he has lost a part of after the injury). I think we may have sold the wrong Kyle.

The Defence operates as 4 individuals. There is minimal team work in that team section, and they hardly cover for each other. At one point, Bentaleb told Dier that he'd cover if Dier would take the ball up front. Dier was perplexed, for a split second he didn't know what to do when somebody covered for him. That's how unusual it is. The result was a magnificent attack led by Dier (and maybe Eriksen ?). Of course, the defence get's so little protection from the midfield that they have more than enough to worry about with their own spot never mind your team mates job too. So there may be acceptable excuses for the lack of interaction.

Speaking about Bentaleb, when he makes mistakes, they tend to be grave ones. Nothing to seriously came from them yesterday, but they looked nasty none the less. He is young and will grow, but that's where he is at presently.

Eriksen is still not bulky enough for PL. If you look at Kane, our best player, he is also the physically strongest. Eriksen isn't close to that level. Mason too, another success story this season, is also really physically fit. Eriksen has the body type of a successful goalie (ie. Lloris).

Speaking about Kane, the team hasn't scored for 3 matches. I chose these words deliberately, because for 3 PL matches, only Kane has scored. No other Tottenham player has scored in PL since vs. Swansea. So many took issue with AVB having Bale, and how AVB was lucky, and have Bale concealed all the issues in the team. If that was 100 % accurate, and let's say it was, what are we supposed to think now? In fact, all our 3 last head coaches got their butt saved multiple times by one single player.

Lloris' injury was profoundly avoidable.

Chadli's yellow card for filming was pure stupidity. It was unintelligent by the ref, at best. Chadli had a prime position, he had no reason to provoke a penalty and he was illegally taken down. Which brings me to the refs in general. I don't really think they all hate Spurs. But I do think they all are unfit for their job. The FA chooses experience (ie. old refs) over physical ability to keep up with the modern PL game, and as a results, we have loads of refs who are not up for the task anymore. There were always a couple of unsuitable refs, but now the unsuitable ones are everywhere. Next season will get really dirty if they stick with the same refs, because they are only getting older, weaker, slower and dumber.

4-3 isn't necessarily better football than 1-0. I'm easy to please, when my team wins, I'm entertained. But yes, I do like to see individual skill, masterminded tactics, great match management. And you don't necessarily get more of that with more goals, when the goals are in either end of the pitch. I think there were periods where we played really badly, vs. the team at the very bottom of the league. We would have lost yesterday 1-3 without Harry Kane. That is the bare truth of it all.

Paulinho looked really good yesterday. Only a fool would say otherwise. A part of me really hopes... but oh well.

Nugent is an adequate player. He is a daft prick, but an adequate one none the less.

I believe a deal for Soldado is more or less sealed. That is not based on observations, that simply gut feeling.

I'm glad we won, I was entertained, and I do like goals. But what stands out more than the win, is the work cut out for this team in the summer.

Good informative post but Chadli's dive was disgraceful. Hope he gets benched for that personally.
 

Good Doctor M

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Really? Wow. I saw it from behind, unhindered view but maybe 60 meters away. To me it looked like a chubby bastard with a combustion engine ran him down. Oh well. I'm glad the ref got one decision right.

It was poor mate. In real time I was screaming for a pen, then seeing the replay I was all...

embarrassed-bunny-is-embarrassed.jpg
 

shelfboy68

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It's weird, but I woke up this morning with the same feeling when we lose.

Have to agree the scoreline was shocking only thing stopping me from having the hump was the fact we actually won.
I would rather have won one nil than what got served up toss of a coin football.
 

cwhite02

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I was right in front of Chadli's dive in the Park Lane, had a great view of it. It was a disgrace, an embarrassment. He should have been subbed right there and then. We don't want our players doing that. I hope MP has a word with him about that.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Bentaleb and Mason do not work as a pair. They offer little to no protection to the back 4. Sandro's injury is so frustrating because had it never happened, we wouldn't have sold him and we'd probably have one of the best CM pairings in the league with him and Bentaleb.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Bentaleb and Mason do not work as a pair. They offer little to no protection to the back 4. Sandro's injury is so frustrating because had it never happened, we wouldn't have sold him and we'd probably have one of the best CM pairings in the league with him and Bentaleb.

Bentaleb is the better of the two, but needs an experienced, creative head along side him to allow him to consistently deliver a decent performance.
 

Shea

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Our WF players on both sides were our weakest links yesterday

They weren't creative and they did not press off the ball

This has a knock on effect at both ends of the pitch

They're not providing enough direct creativity for Kane and no support for the full backs which also increases the work load for the CM pairing (who are already over run most games playing against teams with 3 in the middle, they're also very young and have played a lot of football)

It's sad but yesterdays game made me feel Palace have far better options than us in this area with Bolasie and Zaha
 

bill

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Chadli is one of my fave players. Chadli's dive was poor. I tweeted him to tell him that. He's much better than that. I don't want divers in my team. I'm glad we didn't get a pen for that. Disgusting. I really think he should apologise to the fans to that.

He had a bad game yesterday. Let's hope that was a low point.
 

bill

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Bentaleb and Mason do not work as a pair. They offer little to no protection to the back 4. Sandro's injury is so frustrating because had it never happened, we wouldn't have sold him and we'd probably have one of the best CM pairings in the league with him and Bentaleb.

I think we may see more of Stambouli instead of Mason next season.
 

Harry Hotspur

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Excellent post, enjoyed reading that.

Would pick Lamella over Chadli as he offers more cover, I also think we miss Lennon in that dept, he was excellent at tracking back.
 

bill

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Wes Morgan fpr Leicester was awesome. I wish we currently had a captain with his desire and steel.

Oh id bin Jan if i coukd get a replacement next season. I think we need more steel in the CB partnership. Kompany for a season next year?
 

stevenurse

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The only impression I saw yesterday was our defence doing an impression of a bunch of drunken, mentally deficient divs.

Our defence is a joke. Only Newcastle and the bottom 3 have conceded more. Absolutely unbelievable
 
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