Harry post match interview

[Delboy10]

You couldn't follow your own nose to a shit-and-pickled-egg sandwich. Burble burble burble. Dot-dot-dot. Just spare us this relentlessly negative semi-literate garbage.

:lol:

 

[reaction]

needs to shut up about the 2 points from 8 games thing. he's only grabbed 26 in 18 which is nothing to shout about.

If we had totalled 1.4 points per game we would now be sitting in 7th. Not 5th but we would be up there.

 

[Rackybear]

He is trying to make it look like the job he has done has been miracolous by consistently mentioning the 2 points from 8 games. Truth is, apart from the rebound spell of 'new manager' results we had at the beggining, we have been pretty dire under him.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

In the interests of defending the bashers, they (possibly 'we' depending on my mood and what I've had for lunch) fall into 2 camps.

Camp A: The unable to follow nose to shit and pickled egg sandwich imbos who will criticise no matter what

Camp B: People, like me, who believe Harry is actually a good manager but no better. He is probably just what we need(ed), disappointing though that is to admit for a side who has qualified for the UEFA Cup three years on the bounce.

What riles us Camp B-ites is the endless drivel from Harry's mouth. Some of it is psychologically sound. Much of it isn't. Either way, it is all about how great he is and that often means being disparaging about our current team or recently left members of staff. It's totally unnecessary. We know how many points we fucking had. We'd all be a lot more grateful if you didn't bring it up like an insufferable aunt who expects constant gratitude for a mediocre present given fourteen years ago. "For fuck's sake, Auntie Tilda. It was just a fucking scarf, all right? Yes, it kept me warm that night we went to the open-air performance of Twelfth Night but I'm not going to buy you a bunch of flowers every time you visit and make you endless cups of jasmine tea.'

SS57 is spot on when he says it wasn't such a weak team against Shakhtar. Neither was it against Utd in the FA Cup. Especially when you consider just how good our youngsters are for their age and look around other sides bringing through teenage talent (Arsenal, Everton, Villa, City, Boro, etc).

We have a shit-load of good players at this club. Pretending that any of them, even the 17 year olds, is not up to the task and complaining about a schedule which is the envy of all bar 4 clubs in the country, is deeply offensive and ultimately, hugely counter-productive.

Just as we'll tell posters on here if we think they're talking crap, I'm going to say it when I think Harry is. And he does. A lot.

Mind you, there's worse things in the world. I guess I'd rather have a decent manager with verbal diarrhoea and dubious morals than a shit manager with a pretty voice and dashing good looks.

 

[DC_Boy]

I'm no massive fan of Harry - but he called it right about the uefa tie - a lot of people on here called it wrong - and what's worse were quite strident in their criticisms and giving out a load of guff about the tottenham way - our philosophy - blah blah

not to mention the completely erroneous argument of why bother about the cup final cos it will only get us into europe again and we don't want that

we're fighting for our prem lives - we weren't in the two previous seasons hence we gave the uefa a right go and there's no reason to think we won't give the europa cup a right go too if we qualify

as Harry said re the uefa moaners

'that's why I'm dong my my job and they're doing theirs''

if you're gonna have a pop at least standup and take it on the chin when you get it wrong

and when you're embarassingly wrong having cloaked yourself with loads of false rhetoric about the tottenham way - then even more reason to reassess yourself

I hope HR plays 3 or 4 youngsters and very little if any of our cup final team on Thursday

and this time I hope some people understand why a little better

 

[mil1lion]

I cant blame Harry for what he said in his interview. The truth is, he is getting a lot of unfair criticism from very fickle fans. He mentions the 2 points from 8 games, because its relevent. Thats how bad we were when he took over. We're now better off, 5 points clear of relegation and in a Cup Final. But fans want more from him this season. The fans want us to be sitting comfortable already, and with the quality of players we have, we should. But these players have been poor, long before Harry arrived. So give the guy a break.

All we should be thinking about is surviving in the Premier League, and hopefully winning the Carling Cup. So far we're on course to do those 2 things. So what the hell are people complaining about? If you want a better manager, then fine. But thats for the summer, not now. We should get off Harry back and support him from now until the end of the season. And then, when our targets are set higher again in the summer, you can judge whether Harry is good enough to do better. But for now, for god sake, get behind Harry and the team.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

I just think Harry sees and says this as how it is, the EPL is the most important thing, UEFA & Carling cups are just something else to be going on with. The bottom line is staying up. Three points at Hull far out weighed the performance.

I think it must be a nightmare to manage a team when the next three games you can't select squads because of restrictions. Providing we stay up I'll judge him next season.

 

[riversmonkey]

Harry is extremely candid, and his approach is completely different to previous manager's we've had. I must admit I haven't got used to his sometimes brutal honesty. At times he is hyprocritical, and borderline nonsensical, sometimes he is plain wrong. Though thankfully at least we have a manager who will engage with us the fans, he has given us reasons for each and every one of his decisions, and for that I applaud him, even if I don't always agree with what he says.

 

[Bruts]

i dont view it that he was slating the fans it was Setanta he was slating. As he said "some people on your programme"

 

[VancouverSpurs]

I'm happy to defer to Harry on matters concerning the squad selection. I don't understand the media's obsession with his quirks. Wenger constantly whines about refs, Ferguson as well! Benetiz has been slowly losing his mind. It's not like Harry is the only manager to have some particular traits or habits in terms of his relationship with the media.

Last night was exactly the kind of game that we would usually have lost at the last moment. I hope that some of the leadership that Harry's trying to coax out of the team comes to fruition in the coming weeks. Harry really played up yesterday's game in importance the whole week and the fact that the team fought (albeit not the whole game) and stayed in that game when they could have been buried in the first half was a good sign. Let's hope it wasn't just dumb luck.

On the other hand, something HAS to be done about our set-piece defence. I'm not going to pretend to be a strategist and debate zonal or man-marking. All I know is that this is one particular area that Harry has the prerogative to make a difference. Do your job Harry, we have the players to defend corners and I'm sorry but our keepers are good enough. I don't understand why Harry doesn't devote entire practices to people whipping in corners and having players attack them in real-time. I know it threatens injuries in practice, but we have to do something about this.

 

[$hoguN]

The reason we dont do training sessions where the ball is whipped into the box is because we have no-one who can do that lol

I really wish people who stop bashing Harry and the team it doesnt matter if we win or lose a certain contingent just want to jump on and start slating away...

 

[matjcole]

26 points from 18, means 1.44 points per game, over a 38 game season that is 54.72. The way things are at the moment I'd have taken that. With 12 games to go, that could mean an additional 17.28 points which would put us on 45.28 and safe for the season.

 

[MattyP]

I'm no massive fan of Harry - but he called it right about the uefa tie - a lot of people on here called it wrong - and what's worse were quite strident in their criticisms and giving out a load of guff about the tottenham way - our philosophy - blah blah

not to mention the completely erroneous argument of why bother about the cup final cos it will only get us into europe again and we don't want that

we're fighting for our prem lives - we weren't in the two previous seasons hence we gave the uefa a right go and there's no reason to think we won't give the europa cup a right go too if we qualify

as Harry said re the uefa moaners

'that's why I'm dong my my job and they're doing theirs''

if you're gonna have a pop at least standup and take it on the chin when you get it wrong

and when you're embarassingly wrong having cloaked yourself with loads of false rhetoric about the tottenham way - then even more reason to reassess yourself

I hope HR plays 3 or 4 youngsters and very little if any of our cup final team on Thursday

and this time I hope some people understand why a little better

But what exactly did I do wrong. I didn't moan and groan about resting key members of the squad in an attempt to focus on the league, on the contrary and I'm as happy as Larry that we won last night.

I fail to see how stating that we could have beaten a good Shaktar team had we attacked them "in the tottenham way" instead of sitting back was wrong.

What was the difference between the first half last night and the second half last night? The first was pretty much in line with the shaktar game, the second we imposed ourselves more and attacked better as a team.

Well done Harry, I'm happy we won last night. With a bit more gumtion, and without needing to have changed the team to the one you played last Thursday, we could have won then too.

 

[barry]

It seems to me Redknapp's in a no-win situation. That was hardly a hopelessly weakened team we put out against Shakhtar. I'd have preferred BAE at LB and Chimbo at RB, and Bent up front rather than Campbell, but given the circumstances that was a pretty decent line-up, and Gio and Parrett acquitted themselves very well. I was fearing a weaker one. And— let's get real—we almost got away with it against seriously formidable opposition. Even if we'd put out our strongest possible line-up, anything better than a draw would have been way beyond realistic expectations.

Perhaps you'd better have a closer look at the Spammers' record this season. They're five points ahead of us. That's the five points that Curbishley got at the start of the season. And if Zola's inexperienced, Steve Clarke certainly isn't.

And you and the rest of the Harry-bashers are missing the point entirely. Two years ago, I doubt you'd have found anyone on SC agreeing with Paul Kemsley that his mate Aitch was the manager we needed. We went for a 'big name' manager and he turned out to be an ocean-going disaster as far as the league was concerned. Who else was available to dig us out of a hole of our own construction? Allardyce? Souness?

SS57 the hammers are actually playing well, we're not imo. Everytime I've seen them play lately they've aquitted themselves really well. Even against Manyoo I thought they deserved something. If they had the strikers we had, they would be many more than 5 points ahead of us.

I wasn't knocking the UEFA cup selection I was simply stating the fans should be allowed to give their views on what they percieve as their manager's shortcommings, without recriminations from Harry.

I see your point regarding right man for the job at the time, even though I would have prefered Allardyce. If we do stay up this season I would like to see Harry leave and replaced by a manager who has actually won more than 2 trophies(hopefully) and who's team plays a game that resembles football.

 

[g_harry]

Fuck people dont listen, they just hear what they want to hear to suit their story. If you had of listened to Redknapp he was having a go at tv pundits who where slating him.

 

[Coyboy]

West Ham are playing quite well. We were playing quite well against Stoke, Bolton and Arsenal. We didn't play great last night but won. So that's a convincing win, an unlucky and slightly self-inflicted defeat, a draw against a top team and a ground out victory away from home. Villa won there via an own goal. I don't think we played very well last night but we won and showed character and fitness. I have had plenty of reason to be all 'it's a disgrace' this year, but today I am pretty satisfied and looking forward to Thursday and Sunday especially.

 

[barry]

Fuck people dont listen, they just hear what they want to hear to suit their story. If you had of listened to Redknapp he was having a go at tv pundits who where slating him.

Calm down mate, you got me. I didn't hear the interview, I just based what I wrote on what people on here said.
I was wrong. I apologise

 

[barry]

West Ham are playing quite well. We were playing quite well against Stoke, Bolton and Arsenal. We didn't play great last night but won. So that's a convincing win, an unlucky and slightly self-inflicted defeat, a draw against a top team and a ground out victory away from home. Villa won there via an own goal. I don't think we played very well last night but we won and showed character and fitness. I have had plenty of reason to be all 'it's a disgrace' this year, but today I am pretty satisfied and looking forward to Thursday and Sunday especially.

We played well against Stoke and the Scum. Bolton I'd have to disagree, but the point I'm making is that with the team we've got and the time Harry's had I'd of expected us to put in a few more than 2 good performances.
I will always support the team, and if that includes 'Arry, then so be it. I suppose a win is a win.

 

[dontcallme]

People aren't giving Harry a fair go. We knew before he came he likes to chat with the media at every opportunity. This involves a lot of repetition as he likes to tell the truth or at least how he sees it.

He came into a team at rock bottom and his aim was to save us from relegation. So far he is doing a good job of this. He inherited a team which had few of the qualities he ususally goes for.

He has bought well in January and now has to start getting results. As a Spurs manager he won't be given much time and he knows this. Too many people aren't ready to give hima chance at all.

 

[Stoof]

2 points in 8 games is 0.25 points per game.

You don't need to be as good a mathematician as me to realise that when you multiply that by 38 you're not going to be a Premier League team the next season.

He can keep reminding fans of the abysmal situation we were in for as long as he wants in my eyes.

At the end of the day, Harry coming to the club has caused us to collect 26 points.

Ramos achieved 41 points from 35 League games. (1.17) (W10, D11, L14)

Redknapp has achieved 26 points from 18 League games. (1.44) (W7, D5, L6)

Over a season, that form would give us ... Ramos: 44.46 points ... Redknapp: 54.72

Redknapp is only 3 wins away from Ramos' total number and he's only had half of the games!!

Hmmmm.