Harry Kane

[SpartanSpur]

Would definitely be interested in seeing your comparison between this squad and Leicester's last season tbf!

Some people are genuinely so pessimistic about our club. Defensively we have issues but there is a lot of quality in our squad. Kane is the jewel in the crown but we have plenty of good players.

Last season was a horror show but mostly due to external reasons (I.e. Conte giving up mid season). On top of that we had Son massively off form due to putting off surgery and our player of the season contender Bentancur getting an ACL injury half way through the season.

We will be in the mix for European spots regardless of what happens with Harry IMO.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Man, how have you been here since 2012 and not know that our resident ITK's, or those that may share info have blue backgrounds in the transfer section?

It's to make their posts stand out so you can skim through and potentially not miss any juicy nuggets.

Colour blind. Recently got some special glasses. I've seen the light

 

[SpartanSpur]

I'm a qualified accountant and avid gamer and my preference is for Harry to stay.

Just saying...

Doesn't look good right now though!

 

[GioW]

Apologies if it's found its way here already but O Keefe is saying the numbers being discussed are higher than the media are saying

 

[dj_stu]

That’s as maybe. But people need to stop kidding themselves that this is going to pay for a rebuild. Without Kane we currently look no stronger than Leicester did going into last season. I’m not saying we’ll end up where they did, but I can’t see us getting Europe without him. We’ll be 8th -12th.

I'm sorry but I can't get on board with this. They had Maddison, Tielemans and Barnes of any real quality and perhaps Ndidi. Without Kane, we would still have Son, Maddison, Kulu, Bentancur, Romero, Bissouma, Perro, Udogie and I think Richy would do well as our main striker. Ok, Vic and VDV are fairly unknown quantities, but I don't think a Kane-less squad is comparable with theirs.

 

[Frank Blank]

I’d actually say the last few years we’ve got far more right than we have wrong.

The issue has been hiring managers who don’t fit the players we’ve signed.

Ndombele & possibly Gil however do seem to have been a bit of a waste of money really but overall the last few seasons we’ve made some fairly astute or solid signings imo and I don’t think we’d piss the Kane money up the wall.

Well here's how the Bale money was spent and Bleacher Report's take on how astute we were. Or not, as the case may be.

You can draw your own conclusions. Fair to say there are some duds in there. Arguably the only major success was Eriksen. Perhaps Chadli. And Lamela would have been too, had he not been injured so much.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ayers-spurs-bought-with-the-gareth-bale-money

 

[McFlash]

It wouldn’t be a transfer saga without one of these stories but my mate genuinely just told me his misses sorted out doggo passports for Kane’s labs, never thought I’d be that guy but here we are.

Won’t be offended by the funny ratings

Oh shit, that's possibly the best form of itk this window!
I'm all for pet itk.

 

[Timberwolf]

That’s as maybe. But people need to stop kidding themselves that this is going to pay for a rebuild. Without Kane we currently look no stronger than Leicester did going into last season. I’m not saying we’ll end up where they did, but I can’t see us getting Europe without him. We’ll be 8th -12th.

Genuine question. Assuming Kane leaves next summer would you take an 6th place finish with Kane or 8th without him but with 100m investment in the squad's long term success?

I think that's the most likely type of difference in league positions tbh. Whether he stays or not we're still a team in massive transition.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

I’m now of the opinion is that he’s going but I think Daniel will get top money for him. Absolutely and totally gutted if I’m honest, was still hoping there was a chance he was staying for another year.
If the money’s spent well then fine but I’m deeply concerned it won’t be.

 

[JayB]

Responding to WLB’s ITK here rather than the ITK thread to keep formation chat out of that thread — I’d prefer that we go for a top-class LW who suits Ange’s setup than another striker.

We’ve seen in preseason that Ange likes his wingers to stay out wide rather than cut inside, and for me that means Sonny should move up top. Between Richy, Son, and Veliz we are covered up front but we need a top class player to replace Son on the left.

 

[Frank Blank]

Maybe this will be our Courtinho moment...

With all the money we've ploughed into the stadium can we actually afford a fax machine nowadays?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

It’s a real shame we likely won’t get to see Maddison and Kane have at least one season together. Was very curious to see how that dynamic would develop.

 

[bbunc]

Responding to WLB’s ITK here rather than the ITK thread to keep formation chat out of that thread — I’d prefer that we go for a top-class LW who suits Ange’s setup than another striker.

We’ve seen in preseason that Ange likes his wingers to stay out wide rather than cut inside, and for me that means Sonny should move up top. Between Richy, Son, and Veliz we are covered up front but we need a top class player to replace Son on the left.

Agree 100%. We are ok at striker. We need a world class winger

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Well here's how the Bale money was spent and Bleacher Report's take on how astute we were. Or not, as the case may be.

You can draw your own conclusions. Fair to say there are some duds in there. Arguably the only major success was Eriksen. Perhaps Chadli. And Lamela would have been too, had he not been injured so much.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ayers-spurs-bought-with-the-gareth-bale-money

You said ‘recent years’ and I said ‘the last few years’.

The Bale money was ages ago.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

It’s a real shame we likely won’t get to see Maddison and Kane have at least one season together. Was very curious to see how that dynamic would develop.

Very much so.

 

[Thenewcat]

Which would be a departure on Ange’s established style of play.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that he would see how both Richarlison and Kane play in the system he actually wants to play without having to adapt and get other players to do things differently from what he wants as well and for him to then makes a decision as to who plays it better.

I hate the idea of ANY player being a guaranteed starter in any team. Successful Teams are always stronger than the sum of their parts because the team pattern is the most important thing.

I bet Argentina wish they hadn’t built their team round Maradona in 86 eh? An elite player is the hardest thing to find. Good managers will work out how they use them. With someone as good and as flexible as Kane it isn’t even hard. Of course he’s a guaranteed starter, it would be mental not to pick him

 

[dj_stu]

Sorry but that’s not a good comparison. Saying 3 players who played similar roles couldn’t play together is not the same as saying one highly adaptable player doesn’t work in diffferent systems

Fair point, but it was argued by almost every fan, 'expert', and so on at the time with the same vehemence and certainty with which people are now maintaining Kane could be just as effective in any system, despite lacking the physical attributes for said system. I'd like to ask again: which successful team of the past few years has won with a major player being as slow and press-free as Kane? Yes, he has the incredible speed of thought a la Teddy, but the game is getting more and more athletic each season, and for everything that Kane brings us, we are also losing something in both the utter dependency on a single player and the lack of 10 outfield players pressing properly in unison.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

I bet Argentina wish they hadn’t built their team round Maradona in 86 eh? An elite player is the hardest thing to find. Good managers will work out how they use them. With someone as good and as flexible as Lane it isn’t even hard. Of course he’s a guaranteed starter, it would be mental not to pick him

Absolutely, same could be said when he went to Napoli to.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Responding to WLB’s ITK here rather than the ITK thread to keep formation chat out of that thread — I’d prefer that we go for a top-class LW who suits Ange’s setup than another striker.

We’ve seen in preseason that Ange likes his wingers to stay out wide rather than cut inside, and for me that means Sonny should move up top. Between Richy, Son, and Veliz we are covered up front but we need a top class player to replace Son on the left.

Surely with Solomon, Son and Gil all preferring the left and considering Kulu’s downturn in form last season and his ability to play AM wouldn’t a RW be more of need.

But in general I agree that if we were going to spend big on one player then a wide player with good dribbling ability might make more sense. If we were going to spend big that is.

 

[SpursForever71]

Genuine question. Assuming Kane leaves next summer would you take an 6th place finish with Kane or 8th without him but with 100m investment in the squad's long term success?

I think that's the most likely type of difference in league positions tbh. Whether he stays or not we're still a team in massive transition.

wasnt it 8th we finished this season with Kane? And that was only because he scored most of our goals.