Harry Kane

[1971 Spur]

No way this club can replace not only a legendary world class striker but also his prem proven Brazilian international backup in this window, no way.

I knew it would be unpopular.

In my opinion, the legendary world class striker is going either way, this season or next.

As for the Brazilian international backup, at 60m he's too expensive to be a backup and not clinical enough to be first choice.

 

[arunspurs]

if Kane does go i'm worried about how we replace his output.
Son or richy upfront isn't going to mask the 30 goals he scored last season. I'm aware a new manager and new system should yield more output from the team in general. but it would be nice to have someone up top who is going to score a few....

and so much of our play (previously) revolved around his hold-up play. Again, aware we will pivot tactics but there will be a goal scoring CF hole.

Valid concerns
Even though it was just 45 min of preseason , our 2nd half against WH without Kane showed there’s a way to play without him and keep the creative output.

It’s getting the balance right IMO. We need to tighten up significantly at back , increase goals from midfield and then hope we sign a no9 who score at least 1 in 2 games atleast

 

[1971 Spur]

if Kane does go i'm worried about how we replace his output.
Son or richy upfront isn't going to mask the 30 goals he scored last season. I'm aware a new manager and new system should yield more output from the team in general. but it would be nice to have someone up top who is going to score a few....

and so much of our play (previously) revolved around his hold-up play. Again, aware we will pivot tactics but there will be a goal scoring CF hole.

No, but i'm hopeful that Maddison will, aided and abetted by Son/RIchy/Replacement/Deki in a system more suited to their talents than Conte's.

 

[Kirito]

if Kane does go i'm worried about how we replace his output.
Son or richy upfront isn't going to mask the 30 goals he scored last season. I'm aware a new manager and new system should yield more output from the team in general. but it would be nice to have someone up top who is going to score a few....

and so much of our play (previously) revolved around his hold-up play. Again, aware we will pivot tactics but there will be a goal scoring CF hole.

Maddison can create and score, he’ll be able to replace some of what we will lose from Kane going.

And it was 30 goals from Kane with the team relying on him, but this isn’t about just one player, we need to evolve past being the Harry Kane team or we will never win anything, and some of the best managers in the game have tried.

 

[ukdy]

Never knew we had so many posters living in Egypt, so close to denial

They Sphinx it's some sort of Pyramid scheme!!!

 

[YiddoInPoland]

The most annoying thing about this, and also the City bid is neither clubs have put anything anywhere near what he is worth on the table. If city would have, they would have him already. Same for Bayern, there is a number, pony it up and we can all just try and figure the next stage out.

I am in the camp that thinks we can't replace him directly, we are going to have to get goals from all over the pitch to compensate. Its going to be painful, either now, next year or by a miracle he signs a new deal when he inevitably leaves.

 

[Trent Crimm]

They Sphinx it's some sort of Pyramid scheme!!!

Lol. You get my point !

 

[Metalhead]

Too much risk i think. Bayern would want minimum 3 year deal for the fee they are paying. He could get a bad injury in that time and then where does that leave him and the record he desperately wants to smash. To win trophies, he can still give himself a decent chance by joining United, Liverpool or God forbid Chelsea in a year's time. Also not ruling out him extending if Big Ange really gets this thing off to a stonking start. The main point is he holds all the aces.

I guess that we'll have to wait and see what his mindset is. I hope that DL is listening to what Ange wants to do - that is the overriding thing.

 

[Mundo]

From Harry’s perspective I see absolutely no sense financially to him moving now. If he sees out his contract he’s in a far stronger position to negotiate terms, including a hefty signing on fee (as clubs won’t have to stump up the weighty transfer fee they would now). They’d also likely be a bidding war pushing up his offers even higher.

From a sporting perspective he’d be in a much better position too. He’d be able to review all the offers he receives and weigh up the financial package against the opportunity to achieve what he wants to in the game.

A move to Bayern now would guarantee him short term financial gain over the next 12 months, but nothing else would be gaurnteed. Bayern aren’t as big a club in Europe as they used to be (having not made it past the quarter finals of the Champions League in each of the last three seasons) and the Bundesliga isn’t held in as high regard as other European league - yes, they won the title last season but only on goal difference. They’re also going through what could be described as “a painful rebuild” of their own.

I’m shocked that anybody in his camp would suggest that he move now, given the options and opportunities he’ll have next summer. But then again, I’m not so shocked knowing who’s in his camp.

 

[mil1lion]

I honestly don't believe that will work fine for Ange, I think he is focused on building his team and his legacy and a one year maybe would be showing no commitment to that.

His latest comments would suggest that's not the case. He seems perfectly fine with Kane having a year left as long as he knows he's definitely here for this season. I can't imagine he's looking beyond this season anyway. No doubt he will want to build his team so it's less dependent on Kane or any one player though. That will set it so it doesn't matter so much if he leaves next year.

 

[mil1lion]

That works until there is the slightest specualtion from our wonderful fans that he didn't give 200% in one challenge. Then he is "protecting himself" and trying not to get injured.

Seriously it really doesn't matter what the fans are saying. So much bollocks from a lot of them on social media anyway. I can't imagine the club or Kane is concerned with that.

 

[Yiddo1982]

No, but i'm hopeful that Maddison will, aided and abetted by Son/RIchy/Replacement/Deki in a system more suited to their talents than Conte's.

Yeah, plus a talented winger too, such as Mitoma. There’s just a dearth of decent CFs at the mo. Prioritise a world class winger in the Ange mould and Son/Richy in the middle

 

[rossdapep]

if Kane does go i'm worried about how we replace his output.
Son or richy upfront isn't going to mask the 30 goals he scored last season. I'm aware a new manager and new system should yield more output from the team in general. but it would be nice to have someone up top who is going to score a few....

and so much of our play (previously) revolved around his hold-up play. Again, aware we will pivot tactics but there will be a goal scoring CF hole.

Maddison 10-12 goals
Son 18-23 goals
Richarlison 10-15 goals
Deki 6-10 goals

Think more goals will come from midfield too.

Nort to mention the attacker we bring in to help out, Jonathan David?

The goals will be spread out. In the friendly Udogie and Lo Celso scored, suggesting we won't rely on 2 key scorers. It helps but it is not critical

 

[jay2040]

I knew it would be unpopular.

In my opinion, the legendary world class striker is going either way, this season or next.

As for the Brazilian international backup, at 60m he's too expensive to be a backup and not clinical enough to be first choice.

It's not an unpopular view as such, more unrealistic and baseless, though that may make it unpopular too. Just didn't want you to not acknowledge the stupidity element!

 

[hughy]

Maddison 10-12 goals
Son 18-23 goals
Richarlison 10-15 goals
Deki 6-10 goals

Think more goals will come from midfield too.

Nort to mention the attacker we bring in to help out, Jonathan David?

The goals will be spread out. In the friendly Udogie and Lo Celso scored, suggesting we won't rely on 2 key scorers. It helps but it is not critical

You might be a bit optimistic with those predictions. I think a realistic target for the 4 would be around the 36-40 mark. It would be down on the 43 that our front 4 managed last season, but sorting out the defence should negate that somewhat. I also think Solomon will get a few, and we'll have more midfield runs in to the box from deep than we did last season.

I've said it a million times but I definitely feel we could stumble through a season without another attacker as long as we're serious about strengthening in other positions.

 

[Lou3000]

You've just picked a very unique situation here, where Eriksen collapsed on the pitch and nearly died and then had heart surgery which meant he was ineligible to play in the Italian league and so his contract at Inter was canceled.

I'm sure there are other examples. That's the first that came to mind. The point was that selling Kane to Bayern is not a lifetime guarantee that he's not in the starting XI at ManCity against us in 2 years.

 

[sundanceyid10]

The more I think about it, the more the move to Bayern makes perfect sense from everyone's perspective.

For Spurs, if he's not going to sign it's pretty much our last chance for a fee. "Coys, Daniel" is a businessman first and foremost and makes decisions as such. He doesn't make decisions that a fan would make unless his back is squarely to the wall (which is where he's headed with the window counting down)

For Bayern, they get to show their standing in the world of football, they get a bloody good striker that suits their manager and they get an asset that they can sell back to the Premier league next season or the season after and recoup their outlay.

For Harry, he gets guaranteed trophies, guaranteed European competition, pretty much guaranteed knock out stages in the Cl with an outside chance of winning it. He also gets to double his wages and use Bayern as a conduit to move back to Utd or City next season and protect his legacy with Tottenham.

I've no doubt he would have loved to break the record as a one club man but, as many have said before, we've wasted his generational talent by not pushing the boat out when the opportunity was there to do so and consequently winning shag all.

Spoiler: Unpopular Opinion

I'd let Richy go too. Love him, and I think he'd be good in Ange's system post Kane but don't think he's clinical enough and think with his profile as Brazil's no 9 and with Ancelotti at Madrid we have an opportunity to turn over our money and get two in (plus two good CB's and a RW) that would suit our new way of playing to a tee. Ange's recruitment for his system seems to be a strong suit so lets get this "painful rebuild" done as painlessly as we can.

I hardly think Bayern are buying just for one season, particularly when Kane will be looking for a fee to match what he is going to get in less than a years time which would likely included a colossal signing on fee. If, big IF, Bayern were to stump up that kind of fee it’s hardly going to be for a year.

 

[KingNick]

The more I think about it, the more the move to Bayern makes perfect sense from everyone's perspective.

For Spurs, if he's not going to sign it's pretty much our last chance for a fee. "Coys, Daniel" is a businessman first and foremost and makes decisions as such. He doesn't make decisions that a fan would make unless his back is squarely to the wall (which is where he's headed with the window counting down)

For Bayern, they get to show their standing in the world of football, they get a bloody good striker that suits their manager and they get an asset that they can sell back to the Premier league next season or the season after and recoup their outlay.

For Harry, he gets guaranteed trophies, guaranteed European competition, pretty much guaranteed knock out stages in the Cl with an outside chance of winning it. He also gets to double his wages and use Bayern as a conduit to move back to Utd or City next season and protect his legacy with Tottenham.

I've no doubt he would have loved to break the record as a one club man but, as many have said before, we've wasted his generational talent by not pushing the boat out when the opportunity was there to do so and consequently winning shag all.

Spoiler: Unpopular Opinion

I'd let Richy go too. Love him, and I think he'd be good in Ange's system post Kane but don't think he's clinical enough and think with his profile as Brazil's no 9 and with Ancelotti at Madrid we have an opportunity to turn over our money and get two in (plus two good CB's and a RW) that would suit our new way of playing to a tee. Ange's recruitment for his system seems to be a strong suit so lets get this "painful rebuild" done as painlessly as we can.

I know Charlie is his agent so it’s par for the course, but leaving now is so financially illiterate so it really isn’t in Harry’s monetary interest at all.

You’re right that it gives him an almost guranteed Lesgue trophy and probably a CL Quarter final at least.

 

[sundanceyid10]

From Harry’s perspective I see absolutely no sense financially to him moving now. If he sees out his contract he’s in a far stronger position to negotiate terms, including a hefty signing on fee (as clubs won’t have to stump up the weighty transfer fee they would now). They’d also likely be a bidding war pushing up his offers even higher.

From a sporting perspective he’d be in a much better position too. He’d be able to review all the offers he receives and weigh up the financial package against the opportunity to achieve what he wants to in the game.

A move to Bayern now would guarantee him short term financial gain over the next 12 months, but nothing else would be gaurnteed. Bayern aren’t as big a club in Europe as they used to be (having not made it past the quarter finals of the Champions League in each of the last three seasons) and the Bundesliga isn’t held in as high regard as other European league - yes, they won the title last season but only on goal difference. They’re also going through what could be described as “a painful rebuild” of their own.

I’m shocked that anybody in his camp would suggest that he move now, given the options and opportunities he’ll have next summer. But then again, I’m not so shocked knowing who’s in his camp.

This a millions times. So many scenarios being posted on here are not very real world. You just posted exactly what I have said.

When looking at the most likely outcome, look at what benefits the person making the decision. Spurs/ Bayern/ insert whatever club have almost no power now it’s all Kanes.

A move to say Bayern is obviously not necessarily bad, but it is not remotely comparable to the financial, career and out right freedom of opportunity he has in less than a year. The amount of clubs pitching contracts at a free agent Kane is going to be unreal and given some clubs free spending the signing on fee he would receive will likely be astronomical.

I think lots of people want Bayern because we don’t want to see him at another English club, I get that, I feel exactly the same I hate the idea of him in another english clubs shirt. But me feeling that has no bearing on what Kane must obviously realise is an absolutely huge opportunity in less than a year.

 

[KingNick]

I knew it would be unpopular.

In my opinion, the legendary world class striker is going either way, this season or next.

As for the Brazilian international backup, at 60m he's too expensive to be a backup and not clinical enough to be first choice.

He’s 1 in 2 for Brazil. He’s not had the kind of club team that would allow him to be prolific before.