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beats1

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They were hired because Levy wanted the academy revamped.
Not from what I read, our academy was revamped in 2005/6 mainly down to Moniz and Mcdermott. Pleat and Arnesen have been said to want us to focus on the academy but their hiring wasn't the reason our academy is doing so well. Its the hiring of the McDermott and Moniz that really did change the academy and are the main reason why we are doing well today as alot of clubs have alot emphasis on their academy but aren't doing well like Arsenal
 

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What we need to do is find Kane a nice local girl. One that is scared to fly, gets pregnant really easily and wants to live close to her mum.

Foolproof. Better still get him to name the baby after the manager to really demonstrate his loyalty....
 

Lilbaz

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Wait.... I assumed you were making a joke about Gareth Bale as that's pretty much exactly what he did!

Forgot about that.

Tbf she's not scared of flying and you could probably get from Madrid to Cardiff in the same time as you can from London.
 

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Harry Kane shunning booze and girls had teammates convinced he's succeed
Harry Kane was destined for stardom and his former teammates knew it when he turned down an opportunity for booze and women on a celebratory trip to Las Vegas, according to the Sun on Sunday.

Tottenham Hotspur’s top scorer this season has been hogging the headlines for his sensational record since breaking into the first team in November, and his reputation went up a notch on Friday when he scored just 79 seconds into his international debut.

Now The Sun has revealed that while a 17-year-old on loan at Leyton Orient, Kane rejected the stereotype of a footballer on tour by not really drinking or showing much enthusiasm for some late-night entertainment.


Harry Kane the 'real deal' says Cahill and Carrick

Orient had just taken Arsenal to an FA Cup replay in 2011 and were rewarded with a trip to the Nevada city by the club’s owners. Kane was on loan from Spurs at the time and his temporary teammates expected him, fake ID in hand, to make the most of the trip.

But Kane showed he was not a man for boozy sessions or iniquitous episodes and his captain at the time, Ben Chorley, described that the man of the moment was not really too enthusiastic about some of Vegas’ late night distractions – he was more interested in 18 holes and a bit of sunbathing.

“We were taken to Vegas as a reward for getting a replay against Arsenal. Harry came along and brought his golf clubs! ,” Chorley said.

“You would not expect that from someone just coming up to their 18th birthday set loose in Vegas. He just said, ‘I fancy a bit of golf and getting a nice tan’. I remember walking him and Tom Carroll — who had also been on loan from Spurs — down The Strip to show them the ropes.

“Harry was a bit worried about his age. In the States you have to be 21 to get into places, never mind 18. They both had fake ID. One night out, I took them and a couple of the other lads to a late-night show and he enjoyed it.

“But he didn’t really want to be in those type of places. He was not a big drinker. I kept telling him, ‘Have a beer’, and he’d say, ‘Nah, I don’t like the taste.”

Just Rewards
So, it seems that Kane saying no to the many distractions on offer to the modern footballer is paying off. Attitude has been central to the success he has experienced this season, as his route to stardom has not been easy.

Numerous loan spells and an apparent lack of faith from Spurs managers, other than Tim Sherwood, had many believing he would not make it on the biggest stage. But he worked hard, was patient and took his chance with both hands – he’s now arguably Spurs’ most important player.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Not from what I read, our academy was revamped in 2005/6 mainly down to Moniz and Mcdermott. Pleat and Arnesen have been said to want us to focus on the academy but their hiring wasn't the reason our academy is doing so well. Its the hiring of the McDermott and Moniz that really did change the academy and are the main reason why we are doing well today as alot of clubs have alot emphasis on their academy but aren't doing well like Arsenal

You and @Lilbaz are both right. Levy was still finding his feet as a football chairman in 2003/04. Appointing Arnesen was a move away from the practice of the previous 10+ years, which was that a team composed of slightly superannuated middling-to-good players could be fobbed off on the fans with the incorporation of one or two high-profile star signings. It was a move toward building up a squad by acquiring large numbers of younger players inexpensively, in the hope that some of them would turn out to be good. In that initial ambition, it succeeded and the result was that we qualfied for Europe again.

On the back of that, I think Levy must have learned - or perhaps been told by Arnesen, Jol and others - that sorting out the academy was the best way to make this approach more efficient in the long term. It's the same basic way of assembling a an ambitious squad when you're no longer one of the 'Big Five' clubs and don't want to get into unmanageable debt.

Turning a moribund academy into one that produces a steady trickle of first team players and internationals takes many years. In the meantime, we sourced our players as well as we could, given our limited clout in terms of salaries: buying promising young players who occasionally turned into Carrick, Lennon, Berbatov, Modric or Bale.

But it's only in the past three years that the fans have changed their view, from assuming that every young player who goes on loan is 'in the shop window' and quoting Ledley King as the sole product of our academy, gradually realising that we were producing meaningful numbers of first team players in house.

The further we get into Pochettino's management, the more I wonder to what degree Levy and AVB fell out over the latter's refusal to select youth players - and his insistence on acquiring expensive imports without Premiership experience. I think our academy was 'ready' a couple of years before we started to make proper use of it.
 
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thelak

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People will talk, doesn't mean anything. Come with the territory of being hot property.

Regardless of the outcome there are only positives anyway. If we "have" to lose him, we get £100m. It we don't he stays for at least 6 years since he signed a new contract in Jan.

Best not to worry.

Yeah because we really did well the last time we got a windfall didn't we!!

FWIW I think its ridiculous people are talking about him leaving. Yes we have been burnt in recent years but a croat or a geordie, a bulgarian or a welshman wanting to leave is very different to a Walthamstow boy that loves the club wanting to leave. Maybe when he get to 27-28 he might do a Teddy Sheringham and think its time to win some things if he's at that level and we are not but we have 5 years at least before that day comes.

And maybe in this mercenary age fans have forgotten that players can be fans. Maybe he just wants to be a one club legend and get his name sung long after he has retired like Ledley does!
 

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It is sad, but not strange imo. Just a reflection on what's happened at the club over the last 6/7 years.

Is it though?

If you look at it simply, then yes Levy has sold Berbatov, Modric and Bale. As far as I can, the press have picked out these three bare facts in isolation, mixed them with some half-truths and some nonsense, and created a whole personality for Levy that is a simplified extreme. And you have to remember that a lot of these good folk in the media actually delight in portraying us as a flat-out selling club for their own personal agendas and edification.

But when you look at the specific circumstances and context at the time of the sales, and then look at the personality and situation of each of the players, it doesn't look quite so natural to imagine that Levy would be likely to accept any kind of offer for Kane, barring the bizarrely obscene.
 

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...the more I wonder to what degree Levy and AVB fell out over the latter's refusal to select youth players - and his insistence on acquiring expensive imports without Premiership experience. I think our academy was 'ready' a couple of years before we started to make proper use of it.

There was ITK to that effect, wasn't there. Wasn't there?
 

crokey

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The most important part of Kane's meteoric rise is that he has now been updated on Football Manager and is now one of the most valuable young players in the game
 

Dharmabum

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For once I have to agree with Henry. But whereas he - without wanting to say so - rather see Kane not living up to his present hype we all want Kane to go on improving :cool:
But Henry's got a point and Kane has to be careful not to be caried away but keep his feet on the ground (except for when runs or heads) and keep working hard on his game.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015...y-henry-has-strong-words-for-tottenham-sens/?

Henry is impressed with Kane's early progress, but says it is maintaining this level which is now the challenge.
"Kane scored just over a minute into his England debut and is enjoying a terrific season for Tottenham but this is still only the start of his journey.
"I am not having a go at Kane but it is not how you start, it is how you last an international career. We give some players too much credit, too early.
"To play well for six months or a season in football is nothing. To do so for over a decade like Rooney requires something extraordinary. I know what it takes and it isn’t easy."
 

WiganSpur

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It really is unbelievable to be looking at Premier League top scorers and seeing Harry fucking Kane right at the top. It's even more scary to think that he only really started featuring in November.

29 club goals and there's still a month and a half to go.
 

dagraham

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I was on Paddy Power's website earlier. Clicked on football specials and who should come up? "One of our own", Harry Kane. :)Has a whole page devoted to him. A couple that made me laugh :

Harry Kane to be the next James Bond 100-1
Harry Kane to be the next Top Gear presenter 100-1 :LOL:
 

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No, I got his name 100% correct and did NOT claim to have helped discover him, then pronounce Tottenham completely wrong.

"Tottenham’s likeable, puppyish sniper of a centre forward".

Oh, there's far more to the PleatMeister's game than mispronounced names, claims of discovery and mispronounced Tottenhams. There are the strange combinations of adjectives, the mixed metaphors the mixed...well, the mixed everything, basically :)

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-best-of-david-pleat.108519/

Some particularly apt quotes:

"It looks like he's pulled a rabbit out of the bag"

"He's a water carrier, a hard worker, a bit of a dog... a ferret"

"He hits it into the corner of the net as straight as a nut"

And now I've made myself sick laughing at them all over again :)
 

yankspurs

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Saw something earlier that the clubs prepared to give him a 3rd new contract in a year this summer upping his wages to £100k/wk. He's having a great season, yes. But £100k/wk off 1 great year? Have we turned into Chelsea or something? Cant we wait and see if he keeps scoring, like until next winter at the earliest, before upping him to £100k/wk?

It's time the hype machine gets rolled back, IMO. Media's blowing its load too early. He's doing great and obviously has a bunch of potential, but he's a 21 year old kid and still has things to improve upon. We need to keep him grounded and make sure it doesnt all go to his head.
 

yiddo23

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Saw something earlier that the clubs prepared to give him a 3rd new contract in a year this summer upping his wages to £100k/wk. He's having a great season, yes. But £100k/wk off 1 great year? Have we turned into Chelsea or something? Cant we wait and see if he keeps scoring, like until next winter at the earliest, before upping him to £100k/wk?

It's time the hype machine gets rolled back, IMO. Media's blowing its load too early. He's doing great and obviously has a bunch of potential, but he's a 21 year old kid and still has things to improve upon. We need to keep him grounded and make sure it doesnt all go to his head.
That's not up to us mate, its a simple catch 22, his success and good form will keep the snowball rolling, especially as he has been so consistent and performing in big games. As much as we like to think we could keep him grounded, its just not our domain, its all up to Harry Kane.
 

Gbspurs

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Saw something earlier that the clubs prepared to give him a 3rd new contract in a year this summer upping his wages to £100k/wk. He's having a great season, yes. But £100k/wk off 1 great year? Have we turned into Chelsea or something? Cant we wait and see if he keeps scoring, like until next winter at the earliest, before upping him to £100k/wk?

It's time the hype machine gets rolled back, IMO. Media's blowing its load too early. He's doing great and obviously has a bunch of potential, but he's a 21 year old kid and still has things to improve upon. We need to keep him grounded and make sure it doesnt all go to his head.

We won't be offering a new contract I don't suspect, not so soon after his last.

Its a tricky one as look at Liverpool with sterling. They were too slow to offer him the big bucks, with Rogers saying at the they offered an obscene amount of money for a young lad (believed to be 100k).

Now 6 months later he has had his head turned and him and his agent have got Liverpool by the short and curlies, with even rumoured offers of £180k per week now allegedly not being enough.

Subsequently Liverpool will lose Raheem to someone like Chelsea this summer.

We won't find ourself in the same position with Kane as he is early into a new contract, and I suspect we will sit down and talk to him and let him know that we will happily offer him a 6 figure contract around Christmas.
 
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