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KingNick

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OP was bang on the money

Too many on here are being so OTT with the love for Kane on a personal level, like he is some nice caring second cousin. I don't know why anyone one here would give a flying one if he won anything when he leaves. He wouldn't care if any of you got a nice promotion at work. You all spend your hard earned money on his wages, on the club. He has been paid incredibly handsomely to represent the club any of us would literally do almost anything to have played for, for just 5 minutes.

And on the point of us being terrible without him, Bale was a better player than Kane and we relied on him a lot more at the time. Guess what, we didn't get relegated when he left. It took a long time but we actually improved in the mid term. Let's give some of the other players more credit, we are not a one man team and players come and go. Its a massive shame we havent won anything while he has been here, but that's in the past now - onwards and upwards COYS
Mostly tongue in cheek BUT when HK went on strike, Son stepped up fantastically well to lead the line, we beat City and Nuno was manager of the month!
 

Grey Fox

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
 

Tucker

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Mostly tongue in cheek BUT when HK went on strike, Son stepped up fantastically well to lead the line, we beat City and Nuno was manager of the month!
I love Sonny, and think he’d be good as a 9 in Ange’s system. But that month isn’t a great example. He scored two goals that month, and one of them was a cross. Against Wolves we couldn’t make a breakthrough and relied on a penalty from Dele to win the game. We were relatively toothless in all three games as well, and were very lucky to win all three.
 

Trix

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Well said GF. Ideally at an ambitious club, when you have a player like this and you don't need the money, (and we do not need the money). You add to his output if you can, you don't try and replace it.
 
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Clark28

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Who is saying they don't want him here?

Pretty sure every fan wants him to stay long term. They just don't want to see him go in 12 months for nothing.
 

RuskyM

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
There’s no way you improve a team by selling its best part: I think people are just accepting what seems like the inevitable.
 

Dennism

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1) We’re not losing 30 goals a season when Kane goes - maybe a new striker gets 15, maybe Richie gets 10, maybe Son and Deki get an extra 3 or 4, maybe Maddison gets a few. A lot of maybes, yes, but we won’t be 30 goals a season worse off.

2) HK doesn’t ’deserve’ trophies any more than we as a club ’deserve’ them. Maybe it’s a combination of my age and upbringing, but the sense of entitlement I see around me these days is maddening. To see it on behalf of someone else is maddening and baffling.

3) I don’t care about how many trophies HK has to his name when he retires. When my time comes (hopefully a good number of years from now) I know for a fact that I won’t be lying there thinking “I wish I’d seen Harry Kane win the CL back in 2019”. Nobody looks back at ‘61 and says, “You know, I’m glad Blanchflower got to win the double - he deserved it”. We look back with wistful affection at the team that won it.
I agree. People keep talking about what Harry Kane deserves. He is as responsible as anybody in the team for us not getting trophies. At crucial moments he has not stood up and changed the big matches. I am no fan of Gerrard but the way he changed the match when Liverpool came back to win the Champions League in Istanbul was inspirational. Kane has not done that for us or for England.
 

WiganSpur

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Well said GF. When you have a player like this and you don't need the money, (and we do not need the money). You add to his output if you can, you don't try and replace it.
I'm in the sell camp but I do get the argument. If you bring in Tapsoba and Van de Ven then there's a fair chance you have an excellent season and can convince him to stay. That's clearly a risky strategy though. Having to sign a £100m striker to replace a free transfer would constrain any club massively in the following transfer window, and what if some of the signings don't work out and we need 2-3 other top players?
 

kmk

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
So we let him walk out for free at the end of the season and have £80+ million less to replace him?
 

HildoSpur

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
I certainly do not 'want' him sold - absolutely not. However we also have to be realistic and understand that there currently looks like a good chance he will leave.
 

kd2000

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Personally I think there is a begrudging acceptance masked by people planning for what they see as an inevitable exit.
Does anyone, actually want Kane to leave? I doubt it.
We, myself included accept he is likely to leave, and have kind of gotten used to this and managed to persuade myself looking objectively at it that Kane doesnt exactly fit Anges system. (Not that Kane couldnt adjust and avoid the areas Madison plays in, more that he wouldnt naturally do that)
 

wadewill

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Don't think there is one person on here who actively WANTS him to go, I hope there isnt anyway.

Its more the fact that its blatantly obvious he isn't going to sign a new contract and with one year left some of us have the opinion that its best for the Club that he is sold this summer abroad, rather than letting this drag on all season with him more than likely ending up at a rival for nothing. We've seen what the press conferences are like now, imagine what they will be come March/April when he's virtually already signed for United who we are battling with for the last CL spot.

Personally think the circus will have as much of a negative affect than what he will add on the pitch.

I would love for him to sign on and stay forever, but that's not really reality.
 

Trix

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I'm in the sell camp but I do get the argument. If you bring in Tapsoba and Van de Ven then there's a fair chance you have an excellent season and can convince him to stay. That's clearly a risky strategy though. Having to sign a £100m striker to replace a free transfer would constrain any club massively in the following transfer window, and what if some of the signings don't work out and we need 2-3 other top players?
We aren't signing a £100m striker even if we sell Kane so it's a moot point. It's hypothetical for sure but if we sign 2 quality CB's like you've mentioned above then again 'theoretically' A CF may be all we need next Summer anyway looking at the age of the squad and what we've already brought in so the budget would be there to do that. If we get CL by keeping Kane this season then that budget would be enhanced next year. Yes it's a gamble and yes it's hypothetical but selling him makes us weaker in the short to medium term, and there is no convincing me other wise.
 

JacoZA

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Without a clear indication that he is open to signing a new contract, this is a non sequitur though, isn’t it?
 

WiganSpur

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We aren't signing a £100m striker even if we sell Kane so it's a moot point. It's hypothetical for sure but if we sign 2 quality CB's like you've mentioned above then again 'theoretically' A CF may be all we need next Summer anyway looking at the age of the squad and what we've already brought in so the budget would be there to do that. If we get CL by keeping Kane this season then that budget would be enhanced next year. Yes it's a gamble and yes it's hypothetical but selling him makes us weaker in the short to medium term, and there is no convincing me other wise.
In fairness, there is still some value to be had elsewhere in the squad too. PEH, Bryan, Emerson/Porro/Spence, Sessegnon can't be lumped into the deadwood category
 

Dr Know

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Well, he already fucked part of that when he wanted to leave 2 years ago?

I can’t hold nothing against Harry for wanting to leave and I wanted him gone then. If a player no longer wants to be at the club, why force him.l to stay? These contracts are worth shit. If a player wants to leave he will. The other thing is we don’t know the conversation between Levy and Harry with regards to the so called “gentleman’s agreement”
The reality is there’s a bunch of hypocrites on here as I’ve read posts on here wanting a player that we’re interested in to go on strike.

Harry has been a great servant to the club and has elevated us more than any other player in recent years but if he no longer feels he can achieve trophies here then I can’t blame him for wanting to go somewhere where he has a better chance of doing that.
 

THOWIG

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The Lewis stuff should put to bed the myth that Lewis told Levy to sell Kane, he has/had other issues to deal with.
Oh and the people wanting Kane to be sold are bloody mad, with the clubs record of getting the right players in and add the fact his bestie Son will be devestated.
Not saying he won't be sold, but it says a lot about our fans that pretty much every club in Europe would want him, but yeah let's sell him and buy a replacement.
Nobody wants him sold. He doesn’t want to be here anymore and totally understand that.
 

Timberwolf

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Without a clear indication that he is open to signing a new contract, this is a non sequitur though, isn’t it?
Well that's the thing. All the top clubs buying him would have him on a 4-5 year contract. As things stand we'll very likely have him for 1. I don't think any of the top clubs in Europe would pay ~90m to have Kane for 1 season.

Until recently I was of the opinion that we'd be better off keeping him, but I think under Ange, given his history or rebuilds, his style of play, the way he tends to use a pacey number 9 on the shoulder, combined with this endless, tiring saga overshadowing everything...

I just want a clean break and a lot of money reinvested in the squad now.
 

JacoZA

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Well that's the thing. All the top clubs buying him would have him on a 4-5 year contract. As things stand we'll very likely have him for 1. I don't think any of the top clubs in Europe would pay ~90m to have Kane for 1 season.
Really, really good point.
 
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