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StockSpur

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we didnt win silverware with harry kane but other teams have managed, look at leicester.

so it doesnt matter if he leaves, he hasnt stepped up in any games that have mattered anyway.
 

stormfly

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Decides what type of club we will be for next 10years?? Carrick, Berbatov, modric, Bale!! We are who we are under ENIC! We are not the club signing 2 Argentinians back in 78/79, or signing geordie geniuses right under Man United's nose or signing German world Cup winning strikers on a yacht in Monaco.

Well yes, we were a pain in the ass to deal with and made sure we got top price for our players. We then stopped selling to Man Utd and sold our best players abroad. Then every team left us alone for 10 years.
 

Dazzazzad

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This whole situation somewhat reminds me of Lebron James when he first left the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland was his hometown team and he was there for first seven years of career and was unsuccessful in winning a championship. He left Cleveland in a very public and humiliating manner for the organization to join a super team in Miami to guarantee championships.

The fans in Cleveland completely turned against him, burned his jerseys in the street and was made a bit of a Benedict Arnold/traitor. Granted, he returned years later and they welcomed him back. I just wonder at this point how much damage Harry has done and the fan reception to him when he does leave. Kind of saddens me as it really didn’t need to be that way.

More Kevin Durant for me. OKC was his team. His city. They were always up there but couldn't get over the line. He then jumped to the superstar team (Warriors) and won 2 trophies, but seemed to sour on them because it wasn't his team and he didn't get the credit he thought he would.

He was also the model pro, a real inspirational figure in OKC and the league and then became a bit of a villain. That reminds me of Kane a lot. He ended up leaving the Warriors and now has another super team.

He has had a ton of success but seems very dissatisfied and agitated. I think it's a bit like playing a game you love but you're stuck on a level so you enter a cheat code to progress. At that point the ceiling for the achievement you can feel probably halves.
 

Kingellesar

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Look at the list of top transfers in world football:

Neymar £198m
Mbappe £163m
Coutinho £105m
Felix £104m
Dembele £97m

If City really think he is a £100m player then let them go and find another striker who has won the world cup golden boot and numerous league golden boots for that money. Hell, look at Chelseas pursuit of Lukaku, don't think he's ever won the golden boot yet Inter are looking at £110/120m for him.

Kane is coming off the back of a season where he got the most goals and assists in arguably the toughest league in the world, a league which City dominated, so yeah, we aren't going to bend over and accept what they want to pay.

Wouldn't surprise me if United entered discussions, especially if they sold Pogba for a decent fee.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I listened to Ally Gold YouTube post yesterday about this whole mess. According to the people he’s spoken to with sources at Man City, they have no intention of going to anything like the number even starts a conversation with Levy.

If true, where does that leave Kane?
Up a certain creek without a certain implement I reckon.

To fix this he'll have to be very contrite, make the right noises, knuckle down and score goals. Then, we have exactly one season to start winning things. Progress and potential won't cut it any more. I think IF he stays we have one more season of him which will get him tantalisingly close to Greaves record (I think), how much of a pull breaking that would be nobody knows.

I have no doubt that if he accepts he isn't leaving this year, or even if he doesn't 'accept' it but that's how it pans out, he'll still do his best, after that, well, it's football, anything could happen.

I don't agree with how he's acted or even like it that much but despite how many disagrees this is going to get i'm going to say it anyway, he IS one of our own and this IS all fixable. I'd take three more years of him right now, even if it means losing him for nothing at the end of his contract.
 

GazzaB

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It might hurt to accept but we are a selling club under Levy. And all about money! Kane cost us nothing Barr wages so... Levy will sell, he has history for selling and Kane sell is all profit.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Too many fucking snowflakes on here. Grow up ffs. Blokes clearly a wanker. Doesn’t give a shit about the team that made Harry. How would the Kane team feel if we decided we wanted shot of him under different circumstance? And we’re trying get get him off the wage bill to say a foreign team? They would say fuck right off.

Snowflake...that old chestnut. As if I'm the one that needs to grow up? I'm the wrong side of 40 FFS!

The bloke's doing what he thinks is right. He's clearly inexperienced, and bordering on (if not very definitely) incompetent.

But he's having mud being slung at him for all sorts, including his taste in interior decor - and I'm saying it doesn't sit right, any more so than someone from an old money world looking down their nose at someone who they consider 'nouveau riche'.

Maybe Harry is telling him he wants to leave, and is calling the shorts. It's easier to throw sh*t at Charlie because he's likely bad at his job and not a club icon. But Harry's meant to be a leader (he's England captain FFS). I blame him moreso than Charlie.

This is Charlie's major pay day - he could probably retire off this. Who can blame him?

By all means criticism him for being bad at his job, but some of this stuff has just crossed the line IMO. Call me a snowflake if that makes you feel better though
 

14/04/91

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Decides what type of club we will be for next 10years?? Carrick, Berbatov, modric, Bale!! We are who we are under ENIC! We are not the club signing 2 Argentinians back in 78/79, or signing geordie geniuses right under Man United's nose or signing German world Cup winning strikers on a yacht in Monaco.

But none of those players were sold at a 'lower rate', which was the point of the post.

As I've said previously, there's a football food-chain and we are always going to lose special players because of it. We don't put them up for sale, they want to join bigger (richer) clubs.

Do you think Levy wants to sell his best players? Of course not, he wants to keep them and earn the CL moolah thanks to them.
Invariably it ends up costing the club if they sell - not only is there less chance of CL football but we rarely replace one big sale with one big signing. Look at Bale - we spent all (if not more) of his fee and the total wages for those 7 signings would have exceeded Bale's individually. Not what Enic as a business would choose to do.
 

Matrix

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130 for a 28yr old with dodgy ankles is superb. Yes I know to us he's worth more but it's not our market. Time is our enemy, because Kane wants out, he's never putting in the work he has for again. It'll be most Spursy thing ever to sell a 29Yr old for 100m at best in 12months when 130/150m is on now. This current Kane is never giving us the pre Neville interview Kane we had. Yes levy, club are in command right now but that changes every day this rolls on. Bale, modric, are examples of performance drop off. The Harry who gave all for the shirt has already left.

Ironically it was a City players tackle that really messed up his ankle.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Up a certain creek without a certain implement I reckon.

To fix this he'll have to be very contrite, make the right noises, knuckle down and score goals. Then, we have exactly one season to start winning things. Progress and potential won't cut it any more. I think IF he stays we have one more season of him which will get him tantalisingly close to Greaves record (I think), how much of a pull breaking that would be nobody knows.

I have no doubt that if he accepts he isn't leaving this year, or even if he doesn't 'accept' it but that's how it pans out, he'll still do his best, after that, well, it's football, anything could happen.

I don't agree with how he's acted or even like it that much but despite how many disagrees this is going to get i'm going to say it anyway, he IS one of our own and this IS all fixable. I'd take three more years of him right now, even if it means losing him for nothing at the end of his contract.

I tend to agree but he will need to start putting things right soon, can’t keep pulling anymore things like this. He has a huge amount of credit in the bank and I think supporters will forgive and to a degree move on if and only if he knuckles down. What I can’t understand is why throw your toys out the pram if City have no intention of making a real workable bid, just leaves him isolated. It looks really amateur.
 

ralphs bald spot

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Up a certain creek without a certain implement I reckon.

To fix this he'll have to be very contrite, make the right noises, knuckle down and score goals. Then, we have exactly one season to start winning things. Progress and potential won't cut it any more. I think IF he stays we have one more season of him which will get him tantalisingly close to Greaves record (I think), how much of a pull breaking that would be nobody knows.

I have no doubt that if he accepts he isn't leaving this year, or even if he doesn't 'accept' it but that's how it pans out, he'll still do his best, after that, well, it's football, anything could happen.

I don't agree with how he's acted or even like it that much but despite how many disagrees this is going to get i'm going to say it anyway, he IS one of our own and this IS all fixable. I'd take three more years of him right now, even if it means losing him for nothing at the end of his contract.

Sorry mate I think that's rose tinted specs he holds all the power in this and he will walk and we won't get near the 200 mill it will be a compromise City know that and we know that its all about walking away with the least egg on your face now sadly - imo get it done quickly and give everyone time to move on
 

GioW

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If I had to call it now then Grealish will stay at Villa and Kane will go for a slightly compromised fee of 160 with add ons or something.

Just feel like he leaves
 

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I just love the way that some think these negotiations are being carried out. No matter how you look at whether it’s £100 or £150million, it is a load of money. If there is an acceptance or realisation there is a deal that needs to be done then all interested parties will be constantly chatting about it and trying to come up with creative solutions or compromises. Constant meetings, lunches, blimey negotiators probably even go to bed together ?

If one ultimate party though (DL?) steadfastly refuses to let his negotiators compromise our side whatsoever then that’s where there is a problem. End the discussions. It’s big business and quite high stakes.
 

easley91

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Amazes me they did this without Man City 100% putting a bid in. Surely you would only do all this if you had a guarantee the buying club would pursue? Just makes you look like bumbling fools at the end of the day.
 

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Would they even bid 100m for him if they genuinely thought he had dodgy ankles?

Making us think he is somehow damaged and we should just be thankful is all part of it, don't fall for it.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Sorry mate I think that's rose tinted specs he holds all the power in this and he will walk and we won't get near the 200 mill it will be a compromise City know that and we know that its all about walking away with the least egg on your face now sadly - imo get it done quickly and give everyone time to move on

Can’t see Levy accepting less than 150m or something in that region, anything less is a lowball for his value.
 

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But surely you'd expect all of this to be sorted before preseason training.

If the player and club agreed or Kane to go on holiday and his self-isolation would result in him missing the beginning of preseason training you'd think they'd make this publicly known.

It just doesn't ring true to me.

Tend to agree, easy for both parties to just say this. If he was in the Bahamas these are the rules, I had to isolate after coming back from Mexico recently and then do a day five test.

Kane has been a great player for us but this feels like Berbatov, Bale and Walker all over again. The last two seasons have been poor and why would one of the best strikers in the world gamble on another year and not be seen to ply his trade in the CL. No player is bigger than the club COYS
 

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What I can’t understand is why throw your toys out the pram if City have no intention of making a real workable bid, just leaves him isolated.
Well, I guess that presupposes he knew exactly what any bid would be. He might just have been totally stupid. Something gave him the itch to begin with, that much is obvious, he's never given any sort of indication that he could be anywhere near this rebellious. What that is would be total guesswork. What we do know is (once again) we don't know the full SP on this. There's something, somewhere, that may or may not ever come out.
 
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