Gomes Red Card
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Charles Big Potatoes
- Mar 10, 2005
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Not a red.
The reason a red was given.....
The ref thought BAE had committed the foul and was thus denying a goal scoring 1 on 1 opportunity. He brandished BAE a red. Then was highlighted by the 4th official that Gomes had made the foul. He had already brandished the red card so couldn't rescind his decision and had to brandish Gomes the red. BAE was back covering and I don't think he'd have given it if he#d initially known it was Gomes.
That's how I saw it.
Anyway, the ref was a biaised **** all fucking game. You simply cant tackle in the Champs League.
The reason a red was given.....
The ref thought BAE had committed the foul and was thus denying a goal scoring 1 on 1 opportunity. He brandished BAE a red. Then was highlighted by the 4th official that Gomes had made the foul. He had already brandished the red card so couldn't rescind his decision and had to brandish Gomes the red. BAE was back covering and I don't think he'd have given it if he#d initially known it was Gomes.
That's how I saw it.
Anyway, the ref was a biaised **** all fucking game. You simply cant tackle in the Champs League.
JerryGarcia
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- May 18, 2006
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It was a fair sending off, no complaints here. I think Gomes was right to come for it, on another day he might have got there so no hard feelings.
hughy
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Are you sure Gomes just didn't see the first red? That's what I thought it was...
Flatters
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- May 4, 2005
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Yeah same here
nightgoat
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Given that Biabiany was hurdling Gomes, if there'd been no contact BAE would have gained a yard on him and would have been able to challenge, so in that respect it was harsh... If that was in a final then the ref would be coming in for all sorts of criticism for 'ending the contest'...
garyhopkins
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Absolutely agree. The rule was initially brought in to reduce the number of professional fouls committed by defenders. The refs should use more discretion for goalkeepers.
He had to go according to the rule book, but I think the rules are too harsh. If it's inside the box a yellow and a penalty should suffice as long as it's not a completely reckless challenge of course. Outside the box I'm more inclined to agree that a red card is OK to dish out.
Anyway, the main fault lies with BAE's shit positioning - which has been a problem with him throughout his whole Tottenham career, he's very often too far away from the winger.
Alan Hutton also made a huge mistake on the first goal getting drawn into the middle where he didn't belong creating all that space for Zanetti.
Hope Harry points this out and force them to learn basic defending skills, because it's unforgivable at this level really.
Also hope Gomes can get some old tapes of Schmeichel and see how he dealt with one-on-one's. Never go down until the last possible second and make sure you leave an arm up to stop any chips/lobs.
Anyway, the main fault lies with BAE's shit positioning - which has been a problem with him throughout his whole Tottenham career, he's very often too far away from the winger.
Alan Hutton also made a huge mistake on the first goal getting drawn into the middle where he didn't belong creating all that space for Zanetti.
Hope Harry points this out and force them to learn basic defending skills, because it's unforgivable at this level really.
Also hope Gomes can get some old tapes of Schmeichel and see how he dealt with one-on-one's. Never go down until the last possible second and make sure you leave an arm up to stop any chips/lobs.
camaj
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The way I understand it is if the keeper brings the player down it's a penalty but if the player runs into the keeper then it's not. In this case the striker clearly runs into Gomes so it's not a red for me. There is a rule they bought in to prevent a player from forcing an opponent into losing possession if they have to take evasive action and you could argue Gomes did that but if that was the case then a yellow and penalty seems fairer.
sim0n
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Inter do prove that they spend their money well... red not deserved - not last man back, not serious foul play,... definite penalty, maybe even yellow for reckless challenge, not a red for me... I am biased. I would want Cesar's head on a pike for the same thing at the other end :razz:
- Feb 1, 2005
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During the confusion over the Red card, did anyone else see that prick Benitez waving an imaginary card? Classy.
Spursbabe63
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Yes i did!!! It's bad enough witnessing player's doing it - but you don't expect manager's too! Hope FIFA have a word with him - Disgraceful!!
mabolsa_ritchey
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The decision was spot on unfortunately. If only the ref in the Man Utd V Villa carling cup final was strong enough to make that sort of a call early on.
As for Benitez, ****.
As for Benitez, ****.
michaelden
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Hutton was following his man. JJ failed to track the run and even tried to hand over to Hutton but Southgate and co even said, never stop tracking until you're sure he's covered.
archiewasking
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Thought it was harsh. Always quite liked Benitez and felt a tad sorry for him with the Liverpool debacle. Until the card waving last night. Now it's :shake: so far as I'm concerned. If the same situation had happened at the other end, I would have been baying for blood and laughed my head off when Cesar walked.
Sounds about right to me .
Yes he was biased . I guess it's all part of the learning curve .
I just don't see how people can argue these things. "He weren't the last man" Yes he was. "The ref thought it was Benny" No he didn't. Gomes tried to argue it wasn't him, and then the ref asked the 26th official for clarity and made the right call.
He prevented a clear goalscoring chance by a foul. That is a red card.
If someone said Defoe was black some of you would argue he is really white.
He prevented a clear goalscoring chance by a foul. That is a red card.
If someone said Defoe was black some of you would argue he is really white.
I don't really care what Southgate says. Sometimes a player needs to think about the situation he's in and not follow some "golden rule" that works in most other instances.
There was no reason to track him so far into the middle - watch it again.
Had Inter outnumbered us I would've agreed that it would've been right to cover more to the middle and force them to play the ball wider, but we weren't outnumbered in the middle. Gallas was there in front of the player Hutton was tracking and Bassong pressured the other Inter player in the middle who assisted Zanetti. He gifted that space to Zanetti when there was cover in the middle. Obviously this is exactly what the Inter player wanted Hutton to do, and Hutton was punished by it.
Our defenders have a lot to learn but hopefully our attacking players learn just as much as our defenders by that move, because it was text book stuff by the Inter players.
Yeah, you could argue that maybe Jenas should've tracked Zanetti but the time it took from when Hutton decided to cut into the middle with the Inter player he was tracking to when the pass was played to Zanetti was so quick that he didn't really have a chance to even start running. Jenas had far less to do with that goal than Hutton.
Yeah thats right... don't follow the man your marking cos he has ran off with the ball, let him have a free shot and acres of space, that normally works......
