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hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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Hadn't noticed it was that big a difference! Conceding 12 less goals in 17 games is pretty good going.

It's nice going in to a game against a City or an Arsenal not having the feeling we're going to ship 4 or 5, isn't it?
 

eddiev14

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Jan 18, 2005
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Sounds like we've got a tough run coming up if we aren't going to lose ground on last year.

He is how things stand at the moment, using last season's results to take us up to 38 games:

View attachment 21222

Interesting to note, this is the first time this season we are now forecast to finish above Chelsea, despite them winning their last game.

Also the gain/loss for the season so far:

View attachment 21223

Another thing to note, whilst Arsenal may be looking like they have a good chance at the title, they're only 2 points up from last season. They're currently forecast a total of 77 points, which last season would have still seen them finish third.

Thanks for doing this.

I think it's really interesting that it projects us to finish third and also Chelsea above Man United.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is how the top 6 looks at the end of the season.
 

Lighty64

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The goal difference is one of the most impressive things, only scored 3 more, but have conceded 12 less.

and at the moment the goal diff is worth 1pt over every team below, I know with Man Utd a 6 goal swing could happen, but not too quickly with LVG philosophies
 

nicdic

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Still on +6pts (Current projection: 70pts) after Norwich. Win at Watford would be +8pts with projection of 72pts.
 

sloth

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Still on +6pts (Current projection: 70pts) after Norwich. Win at Watford would be +8pts with projection of 72pts.


Worth noting that we're only two points ahead of our total after 18 games last season, and a way behind what Southampton were on at the same stage.

The context is different though, as the results this year suggest the quality in the league has concertinaed, meaning each point to be eked for the clubs which were already strong is that much harder, which is in an equal and opposite degree to the effect for the clubs which were weak. To maintain and improve not only our relative position, but also our absolute position is actually an achievement. Always assuming it's not random (it's not; you can visibly see we're playing well).
 

Bulletspur

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Oct 17, 2006
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Worth noting that we're only two points ahead of our total after 18 games last season, and a way behind what Southampton were on at the same stage.

The context is different though, as the results this year suggest the quality in the league has concertinaed, meaning each point to be eked for the clubs which were already strong is that much harder, which is in an equal and opposite degree to the effect for the clubs which were weak. To maintain and improve not only our relative position, but also our absolute position is actually an achievement. Always assuming it's not random (it's not; you can visibly see we're playing well).
eh?
 

Bobby Zero

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Sep 28, 2011
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Worth noting that we're only two points ahead of our total after 18 games last season, and a way behind what Southampton were on at the same stage.

The context is different though, as the results this year suggest the quality in the league has concertinaed, meaning each point to be eked for the clubs which were already strong is that much harder, which is in an equal and opposite degree to the effect for the clubs which were weak. To maintain and improve not only our relative position, but also our absolute position is actually an achievement. Always assuming it's not random (it's not; you can visibly see we're playing well).

If you meant last season then Southampton were on the same points and goal difference as us at this stage (18 played, 32pts, +17gd). Oddly with the same number of goals for and against, but they had thrashed Sunderland 8-0.
 

sloth

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If you meant last season then Southampton were on the same points and goal difference as us at this stage (18 played, 32pts, +17gd). Oddly with the same number of goals for and against, but they had thrashed Sunderland 8-0.

Maybe I misremembered it then, I had a look last night, but then posted this morning. Just looked it up again. Chelsea were on 45, City 42, and Utd on 35, and Southampton, as you say, on 32.
 

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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Maybe I misremembered it then, I had a look last night, but then posted this morning. Just looked it up again. Chelsea were on 45, City 42, and Utd on 35, and Southampton, as you say, on 32.

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;)
 

sloth

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Mate, you've misunderestimated me if you think I don't mean what I say... say what I meant... mean. There's a saying in Hackney, "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." Basically what I'm saying is you teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.

Man, I'm so smart I could be the leader of the free world one day, if I could only find an electorate dumb enough to elect me.
 

Locotoro

Prince of Zamunda
Sep 2, 2004
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Mate, you've misunderestimated me if you think I don't mean what I say... say what I meant... mean. There's a saying in Hackney, "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." Basically what I'm saying is you teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.

Man, I'm so smart I could be the leader of the free world one day, if I could only find an electorate dumb enough to elect me.

Ok George, keep dreaming!
 

Spursidol

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Sep 15, 2007
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Sounds like we've got a tough run coming up if we aren't going to lose ground on last year.

He is how things stand at the moment, using last season's results to take us up to 38 games:

View attachment 21222

Interesting to note, this is the first time this season we are now forecast to finish above Chelsea, despite them winning their last game.

Also the gain/loss for the season so far:

View attachment 21223

Another thing to note, whilst Arsenal may be looking like they have a good chance at the title, they're only 2 points up from last season. They're currently forecast a total of 77 points, which last season would have still seen them finish third.

So win 8w, 8d, 2L so far we need to get for the rest of the season 12W, 2D and 6L to equal last season's results.

Bigger problem is the GD - we currently have +17 so only need +3 from that the rest of the games suggesting we might improve GD over last season.

Tough ask to improve much on the 12 more wins, maybe easier to get a few more points by converting some of the losses to draws
 

mstill13

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May 26, 2007
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So win 8w, 8d, 2L so far we need to get for the rest of the season 12W, 2D and 6L to equal last season's results.

Bigger problem is the GD - we currently have +17 so only need +3 from that the rest of the games suggesting we might improve GD over last season.

Tough ask to improve much on the 12 more wins, maybe easier to get a few more points by converting some of the losses to draws

Which is pretty much what we have been doing so far.
 

Spursidol

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Well post Watford we have 35 points from 19 games (exactly half way) so just doing exactly the same for the rest of the season means we get 70 points.......if we hadn't had that run of draws, might even do better !
 

nicdic

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May 8, 2005
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Win at Watford pushes us to...

Total: +8pts
Current projection: 72pts

We now enter a period of three games that we won last season, can we match that before the next opportunity add further points?

Everton (a) – W
Leicester (h) – W
Sunderland (h) – W
Palace (a) – L
 

Spursidol

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Big result ManU 0-0 Chelsea.

That leaves ManU 5 points behind us on 30 after 19 games (same as us), and our far better goal difference means its 6 points. Nice gap for us to have to start the new year.

It leaves Chelsea 15 points behind us on 20 points after 19 games - the other way of saying it is that they are getting close to needing to make up a point a game to catch us up.....which is exceedingly difficult for them to do : means they would have to win almost all their matches to catch us up or we need to drop off a cliff.
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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Aug 20, 2013
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Win at Watford pushes us to...

Total: +8pts
Current projection: 72pts

We now enter a period of three games that we won last season, can we match that before the next opportunity add further points?

Everton (a) – W
Leicester (h) – W
Sunderland (h) – W
Palace (a) – L
Has anyone won 6 games in a row yet this season?
 

Pauleta01

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Aug 14, 2008
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Looking at our remaining fixtures - realistically I think we will land in a region of 34-39 points! Looking at points distribution so far, this will be more than enough for 4th this year, but won't go close to the title unless we win matches vs city and Arsenal I think.
 
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