Frustration and Concern

[FibreOpticJesus]

Is it just me or is there a conspiracy of all the players agents against Spurs and Mr Levy. Since November last year it plainly obvious that we needed to buy some top quality players to sustain our Champs League process and push for a top three finish. In my opinion our failure to bring in quality at xmas cost us dear. But why did we not buy anyone....because Mr Levy drives a hard bargin? We were just played with by the agents to push up the prices and salaries. With what we had to offer why did Suarez choose Liverpool? Because we were too cheap.

Season over and what have we done....nothing except brought in a USA goalkeeping coach to teach Gomez how to command his box, catch a ball and save the odd penalty:roll:

In business (which is all THFC is to Levy) you have to set out your strategy and show your strengths. It's simples. Buy two big name players pay big transfer fees and big salaries. Firstly you show Moderic and Bale that we mean business (and our competitors) and secondly the market then thinks you have spent your budget and you can pick up quality bargins behind everybodys back.

Once you have drank from the top table you cannot accept eating with servants and after 46 years of supporting Tottenham I don't think I could cope with seeing Liverpool overtake us:roll:

Levy if you want your name to be remembered for a great Tottenham side get your bl**dy cheque book out and buy the new Klinsmann & Ardiles now:bang:

 

[JerryGarcia]

Very harsh on Levy, exactly where do you think we'd be without him? Also, if it was that easy to sign top players, do you not think we would have done so by now? :duh:

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

I don't think so. I think he's done a great job until last year when he failed to invest and started looking to move to East London!

So you are happy to stand still then?

I want more of the feelings I felt at Arsenal last year.

To have been so close to then slip away...I don't think my little old heart coud stand it

 

[Yid-ol]

Do u know that he want trying to get players? We had bids rejected for payers at 30 odd million so to me he did what he could.

Moving to easy London isn't the best of moves, bit levy is looking at the long term stabaility of the club and if that meant we moved there to have more money to invest then its one that had to be looked at! Levy has done nothing wrong, its people on here getting there panties in a twist when they know fuck all about what goes on behind the rumours we hear

 

[StartingPrice]

SP dons his very best cheap and gaudy shell-suit, and big bushy, curly wig. Now, in best phoney Scouse accent:
"Calm down, calm down...soft lad":grin:

 

[dickyid]

I'm more concerned about the impatience of most posters on here. It's still June FFS.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'm not going to pass judgment for the simple reason that we may well look back at this thread in September and say 'oh, he was right'.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

Add to frustation and concern, impatience! Some Spurs supporters have the latter in spades.

No-one can deny that we are going in the right direction. Harry hasn't been with us for very long. Remember that it took Man Utd, under Fergie's management, seven years to begin to reap rewards and place themselves consistently at the top of the table. Provided we buy the right kind of players, we can achieve that kind of success too but it has to be tempered and balanced with the right kind of strategy which takes time.

Spurs are not carrying the heavy burden of debt that many other clubs are and it's wise of Levy to aim to keep us out of the red (no pun intended). Lord Sugar wouldn't fire him, that's for sure.

There has to be a balance between our accounts and our buying and paying the wages of new players and once we have off-loaded the ones we don't really need (but please, not Bale and Modric who I see as an essential part of our formula for success) we will have some capital to buy some players of similar calibre and class to continue to build a great team.

FOJ, you've been supporting Tottenham for a long time as I have, so I can understand that you crave success before you're too old to enjoy it (as indeed I do). Life and football don't always give you instant gratification.

Stay positive. It will happen eventually and perhaps we will even be around to enjoy it.

 

[StartingPrice]

I'm not going to pass judgment for the simple reason that we may well look back at this thread in September and say 'oh, he was right'.

I'm not going to pass judgement by...er...not passing judgement, which seems to be exactly what this thread is about. Your version of not passing judgement really requires a parallel thread exclaiming to the World that all is sweetness and light at WHL, and we are gonna get a fortune for our dead-wood and buy Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldo, and Gawd knows who else, so that you can post the self-same non-judgemental post in each, thus displaying for all you even-handedness:razz:

 

[Kendall]

I don't think you know anything about running a business.

We have numerous players we need to move on, especially considering squad restrictions before we can go out and buy more players. It makes no sense to spend £50m on new players (which we probably don't have anyway) and then lose all bargaining power with players we have to shift for squad reasons.

 

[Chimbo!]

I'm more concerned about the impatience of most posters on here. It's still June FFS.

yeh on football manager players do not sign until July 1st. If you would not be worried on football manager then you should not be worried in reality.

 

[kaz Hirai]

I'm more concerned about the impatience of most posters on here. It's still June FFS.

hmmm little bit of deja vu though like the last 2 windows.

soon we'll be saying its only july still plenty of time...

last i checked it's still only august and the window closes on the 1st september, lets wait till then.....

ok it's august 31st and we are scrabbling around on the last day of the season again linked with 100 million pound moves for messi :lol:

 

[StartingPrice]

hmmm little bit of deja vu though like the last 2 windows.

soon we'll be saying its only july still plenty of time...

last i checked it's still only august and the window closes on the 1st september, lets wait till then.....

ok it's august 31st and we are scrabbling around on the last day of the season again linked with 100 million pound moves for messi :lol:

I understand your concern...and I was one of the ones saying we had plenty of time last Summer
But Levy, in particular, and Redknapp, must know how seriously they fooked up last season. On the one hand I could understand their failure to bring in a striker in the Summer through a seeming lack of urgency, even though myself and everyone on here could see the need for it, because no-one knew until the last minute that the acquisition of VDV would require us to adopt to a new formation, or just how woefully our strikers would adapt to it. On the other hand, by Christmas it was clear for all to see that certain things (like our strikers) just weren't working. I don't believe the conspiracies about the january window...just feel Levy/Redknapp underestimated how difficult it would be to get a half-decent striker to the Lane, and then panicked a bit.

But now, surely, they know - know and can see that it was probably the single, sole largest contributory factor to us not qualifying for the CL again. And what has come from that: a large decrease in revenues and the possibility of a players revolt - which we should just about contain this Summer, but won't be able to resist next, if we fail to reach CL again enxt season.

On the other hand, it is not jsut fear of failure and the consequences of it that will spur Levy on. he is immensely ambitious. He had stated aims when he became Chairman. He wanted to split the Big 4 monopoly in the EPL - and the sudden gifting of Citeh with a fortune is clouding the fact that, basically, with Levy at the helm we have done that. We have now finished above Liverpool two seasons running. There is no chance on earth that Citeh would have got into that position by good planning and patient building like we did - only the oil money could intrude them at the top. So, oil money and failure to buy a striker are obscuring the fact that, to all intents and purposes we have broken up the Big 4. Levy also stated that it was his intention to bring back occasions ike the unveiling of players like Ardiles and Villa at the Lane (I can remember it:beer. Neither in driving us into the elite of English football, nor in the unveiling of top, top line players does Dan Levy strike me as a man to accept failure.

Therefore, it is inconceivable that this Summer will be like the last - literally.

 

[kaz Hirai]

I understand your concern...and I was one of the ones saying we had plenty of time last Summer
But Levy, in particular, and Redknapp, must know how seriously they fooked up last season. On the one hand I could understand their failure to bring in a striker in the Summer through a seeming lack of urgency, even though myself and everyone on here could see the need for it, because no-one knew until the last minute that the acquisition of VDV would require us to adopt to a new formation, or just how woefully our strikers would adapt to it. On the other hand, by Christmas it was clear for all to see that certain things (like our strikers) just weren't working. I don't believe the conspiracies about the january window...just feel Levy/Redknapp underestimated how difficult it would be to get a half-decent striker to the Lane, and then panicked a bit.

But now, surely, they know - know and can see that it was probably the single, sole largest contributory factor to us not qualifying for the CL again. And what has come from that: a large decrease in revenues and the possibility of a players revolt - which we should just about contain this Summer, but won't be able to resist next, if we fail to reach CL again enxt season.

On the other hand, it is not jsut fear of failure and the consequences of it that will spur Levy on. he is immensely ambitious. He had stated aims when he became Chairman. He wanted to split the Big 4 monopoly in the EPL - and the sudden gifting of Citeh with a fortune is clouding the fact that, basically, with Levy at the helm we have done that. We have now finished above Liverpool two seasons running. There is no chance on earth that Citeh would have got into that position by good planning and patient building like we did - only the oil money could intrude them at the top. So, oil money and failure to buy a striker are obscuring the fact that, to all intents and purposes we have broken up the Big 4. Levy also stated that it was his intention to bring back occasions ike the unveiling of players like Ardiles and Villa at the Lane (I can remember it:beer. Neither in driving us into the elite of English football, nor in the unveiling of top, top line players does Dan Levy strike me as a man to accept failure.

Therefore, it is inconceivable that this Summer will be like the last - literally.

good stuff, I hope so:up:

 

[tommo84]

Levy if you want your name to be remembered for a great Tottenham side get your bl**dy cheque book out and buy the new Klinsmann & Ardiles now:bang:

Easier said than done - for starters would you care to tell the rest of us who the new Klinsmann and Ardiles are?

If you manage to answer that one, then maybe you could also give us an estimated asking price, and wage demands, and the chances of signing these two fantastic players without being able to offer Champions League football.

There are a lot of obstacles in signing top top players - and at the moment simply identifying them is a big challenge in itself.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Easier said than done - for starters would you care to tell the rest of us who the new Klinsmann and Ardiles are?

If you manage to answer that one, then maybe you could also give us an estimated asking price, and wage demands, and the chances of signing these two fantastic players without being able to offer Champions League football.

There are a lot of obstacles in signing top top players - and at the moment simply identifying them is a big challenge in itself.

We do identify them but then Harry blabs to press and someone else signs them ...

 

[Legend10]

More stupid shit! Get a grip with the exception of Utd hardly any body has made a significant move apart from Liverpool way overpaying again!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1390662/Premier-League-transfers--2011-summer.html

 

[TEESSIDE1]

More stupid shit! Get a grip with the exception of Utd hardly any body has made a significant move apart from Liverpool way overpaying again!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1390662/Premier-League-transfers--2011-summer.html

But it's not stupid .... there maybe 2 months before the new season BUT we've failed to sign a decent striker since we sold Berbatov the best part of 3 YEARS AGO!!!!

Fans have the right to be duly concerned with our lack of activity in recent seasons .... there's always the same excuses (wages, fees, players unavailable, blah blah blah) .... Man U strenghtened as did Man C, Chelsea and Liverpool ... yet despite offering £38m for Aguero we still failed to sign anyone as according to Redknapp, no one was fit to lace Defoe, Crouch and Pava's boots??????

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'm not going to pass judgement by...er...not passing judgement, which seems to be exactly what this thread is about. Your version of not passing judgement really requires a parallel thread exclaiming to the World that all is sweetness and light at WHL, and we are gonna get a fortune for our dead-wood and buy Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldo, and Gawd knows who else, so that you can post the self-same non-judgemental post in each, thus displaying for all you even-handedness:razz:

:lol:

Truth be told I'm probably leaning more towards the 'we're going to fuck it up again' line of thought, so I wouldn't say I'm on the fence.

 

[Legend10]

But it's not stupid .... there maybe 2 months before the new season BUT we've failed to sign a decent striker since we sold Berbatov the best part of 3 YEARS AGO!!!!

Fans have the right to be duly concerned with our lack of activity in recent seasons .... there's always the same excuses (wages, fees, players unavailable, blah blah blah) .... Man U strenghtened as did Man C, Chelsea and Liverpool ... yet despite offering £38m for Aguero we still failed to sign anyone as according to Redknapp, no one was fit to lace Defoe, Crouch and Pava's boots??????

Does that then mean that every Prem club outside Man Utd aren't looking to strengthen then seeing as, City, chavs, Arse, Villa, Everton, Bolton etc etc haven't yet signed anybody of note?

We're still in June for Gods sake, agents and players are in no rush to sign for anybody in June in case bigger clubs come in and clubs are in no rush to sell in case bigger offers come in.

It's total shit, the problem is too many people read all the ITK nonsense and get caught up in it. Anybody with even a modicum of common can tell you that the ITK section is utter utter made up shit.