Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Genuinely there are so many spurs "fans" who would rather we play good football and no trophies, than efficient football and better chances of silverware. Ridiculous at times.
TEESSIDE1
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Why will we get found out? We play counter attacking football and we’re bloody good at it.
Yet when teams sit back we’ve already shown against Southampton in the 2nd half that we can dominate possession and cut them to shreds.
The only concern is if we concede against our rivals again and struggle to hit back. There’s going to be times this season where we need to play 3 in central midfield to stop the opposition from dictating the play.
The reason why the other three teams we played havent scored more is because theyre lacking strikers - it was their deficiencies. Perhaps Conte did plan it to hit on the counter - I dont know.
I dont think our tactic is to defend for our lives in our box as has been all too often in the last three games, I just think when we get the ball we have had some right sloppy passes. I also think our wing back situation is just not right yet. Thought Perisic was not good today, Emerson played well and has improved going forward.
I dont think our tactic is to defend for our lives in our box as has been all too often in the last three games, I just think when we get the ball we have had some right sloppy passes. I also think our wing back situation is just not right yet. Thought Perisic was not good today, Emerson played well and has improved going forward.
I was looking at our XG and for all 3 wins it’s been comfortably ahead of the opposition. 2.2 vs 0.8 today. The smallest margin was the Wolves game
the Chelsea game for all the complaints about the performance the XG was the same essentially.
Which suggests that whilst there is a lot of room for improvement the basics of a Conte team are in place now with a solid defence not conceding many good chances and an efficient fast transition attack
the Chelsea game for all the complaints about the performance the XG was the same essentially.
Which suggests that whilst there is a lot of room for improvement the basics of a Conte team are in place now with a solid defence not conceding many good chances and an efficient fast transition attack
spursfan77
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Hes a clever man, we play to our strengths. We set up well defensively today, I never really felt they were going to score. Had we not won the only people we could blame would have been ourselves because we missed so many good chances. We could easily have been 3 up inside the first 20 minutes on another day.
CrouchPotato
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I get that Conte’s football isn’t for everyone and that there are lots of “park the bus” insults from other fans currently. However, he truly is the example of just because you don’t have possession doesn’t mean you aren’t in control of the game.
We let other teams play and come at us without creating anything. I feel safer under Conte than I did under the Poch domination, at times under Poch we had 60+ percent possession but it felt like every attack against us would result in a goal.
Happy to watch this every week, we just need our attack to gel again. Looking at the xG in every game we are deserved winners. xG isn’t a perfect barometer often it catches up to you when you are under or over performing xG, so the fact that we are beating teams on xG and actually beating them is a good sign that we aren’t conceding clear chances despite not dominating possession.
We let other teams play and come at us without creating anything. I feel safer under Conte than I did under the Poch domination, at times under Poch we had 60+ percent possession but it felt like every attack against us would result in a goal.
Happy to watch this every week, we just need our attack to gel again. Looking at the xG in every game we are deserved winners. xG isn’t a perfect barometer often it catches up to you when you are under or over performing xG, so the fact that we are beating teams on xG and actually beating them is a good sign that we aren’t conceding clear chances despite not dominating possession.
Personally, I'd rather watch a good footballing team that can control the flow of a football match. Not sure why being critical of the current approach is wrong. It's ugly to watch us be pushed closer and closer to our own goal and live off scraps.
Bluto Blutarsky
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I guess my response would be: There are several ways to be a good footballing team. I think people get caught up in possession as the sole determination of the level of play.
Spurs are controlling games - without the ball. That is what 7+ months of training gets you - players get in position to do their jobs. This style of play is leading to more scoring opportunities for Spurs, and fewer scoring opportunities for opponents. Long may it continue.
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Trix
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Brainwashed into thinking the only way to play is like City or Liverpool. The number of posts intimating that anything less than having a majority % possession share of the game is being out played is staggering.
mpickard2087
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If people don't like the way the football is played under any manager that's fine. They don't have to change that or stay quiet just because the team is winning matches. To be honest I personally have much more respect and interest in the discussion when a poster is prepared to stick their head above the parapet with their view than those - ie. most fans - who are "win=good, lose=bad" and generally spout banalities and OTT buzz when we're doing alright and then OTT rant when we're not.
Some are desperate for the result and silverware and that's all they care about. Some watch because they actually like that game called football and have a preference for how they want their team to play it. Some people see both sides of it, and/or sway between the two...... no one is right or wrong or should be criticised for it.
Where I have little sympathy though are for those who just loudly call and demand for Conte/whoever to come in, and then start complaining about how he goes about it. I have a couple of friends like this currently tbh. Next time before you start ranting about which manager to get, usually the obvious biggest name etc, I suggest doing some homework about the potential gaffer and being sure you like the sound of what he's about before giving an opinion. Saves on the screeching u-turns and all the waffle posted inbetween.
Some are desperate for the result and silverware and that's all they care about. Some watch because they actually like that game called football and have a preference for how they want their team to play it. Some people see both sides of it, and/or sway between the two...... no one is right or wrong or should be criticised for it.
Where I have little sympathy though are for those who just loudly call and demand for Conte/whoever to come in, and then start complaining about how he goes about it. I have a couple of friends like this currently tbh. Next time before you start ranting about which manager to get, usually the obvious biggest name etc, I suggest doing some homework about the potential gaffer and being sure you like the sound of what he's about before giving an opinion. Saves on the screeching u-turns and all the waffle posted inbetween.
joey.leone
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Scraps? We had 7 shots on target today, 18 shots in total. Harry Kane had 6 shots! How the hell is that scraps??
Trix
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See for me I have no issue with people wanting a different brand of football. Where I take umbrage is when those fans completely dismiss/delegitamise another way of playing, which I think is what is happening from some fans atm.
I completely understand anyone that says they don't like the way we are playing, but to say we were out played just because it's not the brand of football they like is the issue for me.
We had more shots, far more shots on target, and a far superior xg (although I'm not the biggest fan of these x stats), yet we "were out played" or "were lucky". You hear them say "yeah but if Forrest were better in front of goal" yet completely ignore that we had much better chances that we didn't score as well.
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viktorviktor
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Simple, disciplined and energy-saving. With a team that still needs to connect to each other (we have 9 or 10 first teamers with less than a year at the club), where we are still missing 1-2 key players before our squad is complete, AND we have a tight schedule coming up , this is how we need to play. Can the execution be improved upon, absolutely, but the overall system is the right one for now.
If we had a team full of superstars, who had played in the same system for ages and a bench with the same quality, I might be expecting more.
If we had a team full of superstars, who had played in the same system for ages and a bench with the same quality, I might be expecting more.
cockerel downunder
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I get the impression we are playing within ourselves to conserve energy for the busy period. Or, we are still doing a lot of fitness work in a bit of an extended pre season snd hence a bit tired snd leggy in games. Either way I think it’s a calculated risk to start a bit slow but benefit later in the season
easley91
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Bang on. How many times have we had majority of the ball and done nothing? Or still look poor defensively giving away cheap goals?
Someone else said it, but I am less nervous watching us defend now than I have been under any other manager.
I’ve seen lots of spurs teams over the years that are good footballing sides and easy on the eye
apart from a couple of years under Poch they’ve also been flaky and prone to not converting pretty play into consistent results
We’re playing like an Italian team at the moment that seem to be playing the percentages in games rather than the living of scraps situation you present which to me was how we played under Jose
easley91
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We had more shots on target and created better openings than Forest with less of the ball. Hardly scraps.
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