Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Yiddo100]

So he came for 18 months just to get paid? like I said disappointing.

I mean it’s his job, I’ve turned up to my job for years to get paid, what’s the difference?

 

[RuskyM]

VFTL makes a good point: is this going to improve if we keep pretending it’s not a problem? Furthermore, based on this season, is it likely things improve?

I can’t see either. And following that logic, I really think we need to send him off now. Yes yes Levy still there, but we knew we needed this sorted in December: it’s half way through February and it’s not showing any sign of any resolution apart from the inevitable, and all the while we’re limping toward nothing. It isn’t going to miraculously get better. Cut the cord.

 

[Bing]

? were you expecting him to work for free?

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

By Conte's own admission it was a long term project - I'm saying if he only stays for 18 months it is disappointing. Do you disagree? Not sure what your point is?

 

[Bing]

I mean it’s his job, I’ve turned up to my job for years to get paid, what’s the difference?

My point is it's a waste of time for us as a club. Not shitting on his right to earn a solid crust...we all need to eat but it does mean we have wasted 18 months where we could've been developing the club. Again, not sure why this is coming across as a controversial opinion. Happy to hear arguments to the contrary that it's a good thing that Conte came in and left after 18 months.

 

[TimNiceButDim]

I’ve been on the fence for a while, desperately trying not to shit the bed… but now I’m Conte out.

The tactics are dreadful, the team is less than the sum of its parts and we look utterly bereft of confidence.

The system is so easy to play against because we never change it, every team now knows exactly how we’ll play and how to nullify it.

Surely the standard requirement for any manager, across any industry, is to get the best out of the individuals available.
If you can only manage the best of the best, you’re not a very good manager.
End of conversation.
So… he’s ran out of credit in my book.

With the way we operate, it was always going to be a risky move and it hasn’t paid off, so it’s time to move on to the next mug.

If I was Levy right now, with a DoF in trouble, a manager on the ropes and the fans calling me out at every game, whilst facing another summer of on & off pitch recruitment, I’d take £3.5bn in a heartbeat!

Surely he’s not enjoying this either?!

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

My point is it's a waste of time for us as a club. Not shitting on his right to earn a solid crust...we all need to eat but it does mean we have wasted 18 months where we could've been developing the club. Again, not sure why this is coming across as a controversial opinion. Happy to hear arguments to the contrary that it's a good thing that Conte came in and left after 18 months.

When they agreed - it was an 18-month contract with a mutual option to extend for another year.

It made sense for both parties.

For Spurs/Levy it made financial sense because Levy was already paying Poch, Nuno, and Mourinho to not manage Spurs. He would not have wanted to take on another expensive long-term deal that would have to be paid off when Levy eventually Sacked Conte.

For Conte, he did not trust that Spurs/Levy would follow-through on the continued ambition that Conte felt was necessary to compete for league titles. An 18-month contract gave him time to assess the situation and decide if he wanted to continue.

I would not completely rule out Conte staying beyond this season - though it looks less likely every day. But, the contract situation was known by all, and made financial sense to all.

 

[Styopa]

My point is it's a waste of time for us as a club. Not shitting on his right to earn a solid crust...we all need to eat but it does mean we have wasted 18 months where we could've been developing the club. Again, not sure why this is coming across as a controversial opinion. Happy to hear arguments to the contrary that it's a good thing that Conte came in and left after 18 months.

To be fair, he’s never spent more than a couple of years or so with a club, except Juve who he managed 2011-14. Him leaving after a couple of seasons should come as no great surprise. What has been disappointing though is how quickly the quality of football has disintegrated this season after a very promising end to the season last year.

 

[olliec]

No matter what happens with Conte he should always be welcomed at our stadium in the future. The man has been through so much the last year and came back so quickly after surgery. Nobody can question his loyalty.

 

[A Bit Much]

No matter what happens with Conte he should always be welcomed at our stadium in the future. The man has been through so much the last year and came back so quickly after surgery. Nobody can question his loyalty.

I'd hope no one sensible is straying beyond criticism of the football side of things into personal abuse of Conte. He's clearly a very dedicated and passionate man who is doing his best as he sees it.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

No matter what happens with Conte he should always be welcomed at our stadium in the future. The man has been through so much the last year and came back so quickly after surgery. Nobody can question his loyalty.

I think every manager that's ever managed us should be welcomed back with open arms... Except for Nuno he can get fucked.

 

[olliec]

I think every manager that's ever managed us should be welcomed back with open arms... Except for Nuno he can get fucked.

The way nuno treated Joe Hart has made me lost all respect for him.

speaking of Joe we could of really done with him right now as well. Hate Nuno!

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

That’s the issue I mentioned earlier, and I have nothing to support me against that argument. The uncertainty with the contract is probably hurting us. If I was forced to pick I’d guess he leaves. For me though that’s not enough to get rid of him now or not attempt to get him to sign a new deal in the summer. I’ve already said I want him to stay and given my reasons. Either way the club has to pick a direction in the summer at the latest, and it better be one that is stuck to for more than 1 or 2 seasons. Tired of the constant change without direction infinitely more than Conte or any other manager having hard times in charge here.

I hear you about the chopping and changing. But that's what we were always going to have with Conte. I'd also like for him to be a long-term manager with whom we could build something, but he's never been that kind of manager, and I don't think we've seen anywhere near enough progress this season to think he could be, even if by some miracle he does agree to sign a contract extension. I don't think Dimarzio's reveal earlier this year was by mistake, either.

For me, it's clear he wants out. The only question that remains now is, do we limp on with him, hoping that somehow he completely changes and becomes a project manager by the summer, or make the change now so that the club can start the rebuild early?

 

[mabolsa_ritchey]

Do not cast your pearls before a swine.

You people aint stupid use your brains, look at what we had to what we now have.

These fraudulent managers have destroyed our club. And you supporters are so hungry for success you allow yourself to be blinded by what's actually going on right n front on your eyes.

This post is massively underrated. Been laughing at it for a good 20 mins now. Excellent effort!

 

[Shanks]

Lovely little distraction with the take over news eh, nicely played ?

 

[mil1lion]

The big concern for this season is whether he can galvanise this squad again. He just seems so down and defeated of late. It's far from the passionate jumping up and down we've been used too. We would need something to turn the whole mood around. Honestly I think the only way it could happen is if we had a takeover and he was boosted by the promise of big backing in the summer. Maybe that would lift the club as a whole. At the moment it's only going one way and will lead to another manager. It would take a swing similar to the form from March last year to lift the club and get fans back on his side.

 

[olliec]

The big concern for this season is whether he can galvanise this squad again. He just seems so down and defeated of late. It's far from the passionate jumping up and down we've been used too. We would need something to turn the whole mood around. Honestly I think the only way it could happen is if we had a takeover and he was boosted by the promise of big backing in the summer. Maybe that would lift the club as a whole. At the moment it's only going one way and will lead to another manager. It would take a swing similar to the form from March last year to lift the club and get fans back on his side.

Regardless of a takeover I think he just wants to go back to Italy.

 

[Albertbarich]

I'm convinced he is gone come the summer

So the question for me isn't is he an elite manager, has Levy backed him, whose at fault etc.

The question is can he get us going again before the season totally implodes.

I don't think he will. He looks tired , out of energy, ideas and answers, as do the players .

It's not his fault, he has been through hell but at the end of the day we have a hundred million just relying on finishing fourth alone, we have to think of ourselves.

We can debate how useless Levy is and how he won't back the next man still because I think there is huge merit to that but right now I want to save our season

He should politely be told to take gardening leave

 

[mil1lion]

Regardless of a takeover I think he just wants to go back to Italy.

He probably does now but just thinking what it could take to change his mind. If he really felt he could succeed here I do fancy he would stay.

 

[olliec]

I'm convinced he is gone come the summer

So the question for me isn't is he an elite manager, has Levy backed him, whose at fault etc.

The question is can he get us going again before the season totally implodes.

I don't think he will. He looks tired , out of energy, ideas and answers, as do the players .

It's not his fault, he has been through hell but at the end of the day we have a hundred million just relying on finishing fourth alone, we have to think of ourselves.

We can debate how useless Levy is and how he won't back the next man still because I think there is huge merit to that but right now I want to save our season

He should politely be told to take gardening leave

The man has just had his gallbladder out so we can’t expect him to be jumping around and back to 100%. What we can see is his commitment returning to the club so quick after surgery. That alone should motivate the team. Conte is passionate about his job which means he is passionate about seeing us succeed regardless if he goes at the end of the season. I just don’t think we have enough quality on the pitch to get into the top 4 after our injuries. This isn’t contes fault and I would prefer he stay with us until his contract finishes.

 

[Tucker]

Lovely little distraction with the take over news eh, nicely played ?

Distraction from what exactly? It’s not exactly stopped people moaning about the owners if that’s what you’re implying, or the poor form of the team.