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I love Eric Dier , Eric Dier loves me ...Hardly Mercury prize winning lyrics but sounded greatWhat are the chants? So good to know that he's appreciated.
I love Eric Dier , Eric Dier loves me ...Hardly Mercury prize winning lyrics but sounded greatWhat are the chants? So good to know that he's appreciated.
Such a simple song but proper love hearing it round the ground.I love Eric Dier , Eric Dier loves me ...Hardly Mercury prize winning lyrics but sounded great
Desperate to go back north west by sounds of it.I'm a bit surprised Coady hasn't been looked at. He's a lot like Dier in that he's made for the ccb role, he's an experienced premier league player and a club captain/leader.
Honestly hard to tell. I think this season could be the acid test. Another year under Conte competing in the CL and at the top of the table... I think we'll see if he's up to the very top standard.He's performing really solidly in the middle of that back 3, really suits him and he's a great character so will be listening and learning from Conte really well.
Do we think we can see us winning a league or trophy with him there or do we still need to sign a next level CB this window as we thought we were initially going to in Bastoni etc? I know we now have Lenglet for LCB depth so if we now brought in another CB I assume they'd be to compete with or take Dier's place as we seem happy with Romero and Sanchez for the RCB role.
I'm quite torn on this one as I like Dier as a character and I feel buying someone to play ahead of him is harsh as he's performed pretty well, but as we know squad depth and quality is important so someone coming in as that 6th CB to compete with Dier could be great, if we go for a top top top level CB and Dier then becomes the back-up then fair enough as no room for sentimentality but I'm not sure its 100% nessercary, thoughts?
This post needs to be stickied.Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.
I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.
Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.
He could be our next Captain.
Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.
I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.
Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.
He could be our next Captain.
I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.Questioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.
I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.
Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.
He could be our next Captain.
He should be our next captainQuestioning Dier is one of the most infuriating narratives around our fanbase and has been for years. Man has been one of the first names on the team sheet for every manager we've had for the last 8 years, played about 5 different positions, been professional and hard working the entire time.
I'd like to place the blame for this nonsense at the feet of Southgate for not picking him for England, but it's been going on longer than that.
Of all the players in our squad to discuss improving on, you choose Eric fucking Dier? He will continue to be a mainstay of this club until he decides he's had enough. The club ain't getting rid of him, I can tell you that.
He could be our next Captain.
TBH, I really don't get such comparison. Both of the defenders you listed played for champions - their mistakes were so easily overlooked because their teams often win. Dier wouldn't be out of place in both Liverpool and Citeh. VvD and Dias wouldn't suddenly make us champions either. But the level Dier makes us better is higher than say both VvD and Dias do to their respective clubs because their teams are already so solid. And VvD came from Celtic then to Southampton, hardly the path of a world class player when Liverpool is only his biggest club he has played. Whereas Dier has been consistently in the team with us even in our peak period under Poch, as well as during the Mourinho stint and now currently under Conte.I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.
I really hope Conte doesn't think that a new signing, even the ones mentioned at that high level of a CB, is going to despatch Dier down to being a backup or squad player straight away, without even considering if they could maintain their level in the league and assume they can be better than Dier.I don’t think anyone is saying move him on and myself and quite a few others have said that he could well be good enough to be our main CB in a 3 to win trophies under Conte, but if we have the budget for it and could get an e.g. Bastoni (appreciate he is more of a LCB) or Grvadol or a gamechanging level CB like when Liverpool got VVD, then surely that would upgrade us and Dier would be a phenomenal back up and squad player to have.
I think absolutely nothing wrong with anyone discussing improving on Eric Dier as at times his form has been up and down with us and it IS still debatable as to whether he is good enough as he’s not world class, he’s no VVD or Dias etc.
However that being said, personally I think since we’ve moved to a back 3 and Conte has come in, he’s been one of our very top most consistent performers, he seems to suit that position so well and his attitude and effort have been pretty exemplary for the time he’s been at the club, he’s a real leader.
I don’t think anyone is saying move him on and myself and quite a few others have said that he could well be good enough to be our main CB in a 3 to win trophies under Conte, but if we have the budget for it and could get an e.g. Bastoni (appreciate he is more of a LCB) or Grvadol or a gamechanging level CB like when Liverpool got VVD, then surely that would upgrade us and Dier would be a phenomenal back up and squad player to have.
I think it’s a very legitimate question as to if the budget is there should we do that or not and credit to Dier that he is making us all think twice about it, that shows the kind of level he’s performing at and 100% Southgate should be picking him, it’s a travesty.
Mate VVD transformed Liverpool's defence, they hadn't won anything until he and Allison came in, I love Dier as much as the next person but VVD is one of the best CB's in the world and Dier at this moment is not. Ruben Dias also is at a higher level than Dier. Sure Dier suits us pretty well but I think the comparisons are perfectly valid because I do actually think that if we put VVD in our team and Dier in Liverpools that it would make a reasonable difference, VVD is a man mountain and one of the very best CB's in the world and has shown that for a few years now.TBH, I really don't get such comparison. Both of the defenders you listed played for champions - their mistakes were so easily overlooked because their teams often win. Dier wouldn't be out of place in both Liverpool and Citeh. VvD and Dias wouldn't suddenly make us champions either. But the level Dier makes us better is higher than say both VvD and Dias do to their respective clubs because their teams are already so solid. And VvD came from Celtic then to Southampton, hardly the path of a world class player when Liverpool is only his biggest club he has played. Whereas Dier has been consistently in the team with us even in our peak period under Poch, as well as during the Mourinho stint and now currently under Conte.
I really hope Conte doesn't think that a new signing, even the ones mentioned at that high level of a CB, is going to despatch Dier down to being a backup or squad player straight away, without even considering if they could maintain their level in the league and assume they can be better than Dier.
Now I really think Southgate has a fucking huge responsibility for some of the lacking respect for Dier. Maguire, Mings, Ben fucking White in front of Dier in the national squad. Ffs.
Yea I'm starting to feel the same mate that a decent back-up would be the best option because on the pitch he is very close at the moment to top top level and as you say he also bring so much leadership etc.He brings a lot more to the club than just what he does on the pitch. He's great in the dressing room and with the media too. I'd be happy if we looked for a decent back up to Dier rather than somebody Dier could play second fiddle to. I have no idea who that would be either because of the leadership and organization Dier has brought to our back line.
When the player who's signed to cover Romero and Dier gets injured then you now have no cover whatsoever for 2 positions instead of one. I see no reason why Dier should not have competition for his place like everyone else in the squad.Fine tuning the squad by replacing Sanchez with someone who could cover and challenge both Dier and Romero seem to be the smart move. Our depth issue at the back seem to be that neither of the RCB can play in the middle. If we sign a pure Dier cover then one of them will sit on the bench all the time and rot.
When the player who's signed to cover Romero and Dier gets injured then you now have no cover whatsoever for 2 positions instead of one. I see no reason why Dier should not have competition for his place like everyone else in the squad.