ENIC...

[Hakkz]

Walker was here for eight years. Trippier was here for four. That's not flipping a player for a profit, that's bringing a player in, playing them and then selling them either when they want to leave, or when you want to improve upon them.

And I really don't see a downside to buying low and selling high. No-one wants to sell at a loss.

Of all the things people can complain about, I don't understand this one.

 

[Gb160]

Of all the things people can complain about, I don't understand this one.

If Levy had an ounce of decency he'd give them half their money back.
Amazed at how he manages to sleep at night.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Nothing to do with their overall job but, Levy is really losing the transfer game he seemingly thinks he has a knack for.

Tucked up majorly by Eriksen and mugged off by Inter
Wanyama been for sale for two years, now leaves on a free
Last minute ( probably bullshit ) deals never coming off
Last big outlay looking questionable at best
Apparently people wanted Rose for £40m odd couple of years ago, now on loan at Toon and will barely bring in £10m if made permanent


The whole point of transfer ‘trading’ if you will is buy at reasonable prices and maximise the selling fee and selling at the right time. 2/3 years ago if you’d have said we’d end up getting under £30m for Eriksen, Rose and Wanyama you’d have laughed. We need a proper director of football who can play the game properly

We had a director of football, https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/26/damien-comolli-tottenham-liverpool , made some good signings but also brought in Bentley maybe a Honda would have been better and looking at some of his Liverpool signings can see why they got rid of him.

 

[Kilkenny Cat]

Walker was here for eight years. Trippier was here for four. That's not flipping a player for a profit, that's bringing a player in, playing them and then selling them either when they want to leave, or when you want to improve upon them.

And I really don't see a downside to buying low and selling high. No-one wants to sell at a loss.

Am constantly amused by the number of people who complain that Levy and ENIC are in it "to make a profit". I should bloody well hope so!

Do people want them to run the club at a loss? And have us follow Leeds? Or be where Newcastle and Villa are now? Or even Everton, who've spent a lot more than us in recent seasons but who - because of Levy and ENIC - we've left miles behind?

And they're also somehow to blame for wanting to buy low and sell high? Would we prefer them to buy high and sell low?

Just imagine too the fuss that would have occurred had we sold Dier, Rose and Eriksen at their peak. All the accusations of "lack of ambition" that would have followed. We didn't and it's cost us tens of millions.

Not buying anyone in the summer of 2018 (just imagine the difference Grealish would have made!) was a massive mistake and will continue to bite us indefinitely. But anyone who reckons that Levy's business plan, in outline, is wrong is being either silly or wilfully naive.

 

[dudu]

Your cherry picking, good teams win trophies, losers talk about, what they could of won.
Those we were never top in both of poch so called good seasons ,unless you count the 17 minutes against Arsenal.
we drew too many games in a 3 point win for a league.
Talk to quite a few spurs fans , none of them rate the above signing.
Are you happy we didn’t make ant signing for two windows and let our best midfielder walk away because , we screwed him over on his pay.

Firstly, I actually think ENIC deserves some credit for hanging onto 99% of our top players and highest earners despite still not being able to compete with the top top clubs on wages. Ive said it before but it was only 3 seasons ago people were lamenting Levy and Co because they were tight pricks who were going to let all of our stars walk away because they would never pay them a decent wage.

Doesnt matter if those players turned out to be good signings does it either?

Sanchez we spent 40+ million on. So have the goalposts now changed that we dot only have to be buying players for large amounts but they definitely have to turn out amazing or else they don't count as backing the manager?

Llorente definitely did a job for us. He wasn't spectacular either but Levy did back his manager with Janseen not long before that. Im sure it was his fault that did not work out.

The two windows of no buying was a fuckup of major proportion from everyone at the club. It's very clear now and we are paying for it. But mistakes do happen and they have responded by spending a fair amount of money on players and one of the most prime time managers in world football.

 

[pelayo59]

Sorry nailsy, I respect you, but come on.

Examples:
Wimmer, bought for £4m, sold for £17m
Trippier, bought for £3.5m, sold for £20m
Walker, bought for £5m, sold for £47m

I'm not meaning we hang on to them for a season and sell them at increased value, I'm more suggesting that we buy low with the aim of selling high.

selling players not good Enough for a club or players wanting to leave.We are probably the first club doing that with profit, yeah?

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Hoping when ENIC sell we are taken over by whoever is running B Dortmund , fantastic transfer dealings.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

We had a director of football, https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/26/damien-comolli-tottenham-liverpool , made some good signings but also brought in Bentley maybe a Honda would have been better and looking at some of his Liverpool signings can see why they got rid of him.

Not forgetting he was responsible for Bale, Modric, Corluka and Woodgate.. He left because when Redknapp was appointed manager, as Redknapp refused to work with a DOF..

 

[pelayo59]

Hoping when ENIC sell we are taken over by whoever is running B Dortmund , fantastic transfer dealings.

Whoever is running Borussia Dortmund is doing exactly what people from #ENICOut hates - buying cheap and selling them for the profit in future.

 

[daryl hannah]

selling players not good Enough for a club or players wanting to leave.We are probably the first club doing that with profit, yeah?

Yes, the problem is the buying low bit because you get what you pay for. Nothing wrong with making a profit on them. It's their low value contribution to the team that's the issue. Davies is still here - why? We'd be a lot worse off if it weren't for the luck that was Kane.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Whoever is running Borussia Dortmund is doing exactly what people from #ENICOut hates - buying cheap and selling them for the profit in future.

Trouble with ENIC out mob they always think the grass is going to be greener with someone else in charge, no trophies but the recent seasons apart from this one have been the best for many years at WHL . Levy/ENIC could do nothing about Eriksen he was intent on going we are lucky it wasn't a total free like Ramsey to Juventus , or Lewandowski to Bayern from Dortmund .
All these names bandied about that Levy should have signed him or whoever how does anyone know these players want to come to Spurs. When Levy/ENIC did make a signing and was praised as a fantastic bit of business we get N'dombele who was supposed to be the greatest thing since the creation of the universe everybody was raving about him , I much rather Skippy was given a chance in midfield at least he might break out of a trot.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Whoever is running Borussia Dortmund is doing exactly what people from #ENICOut hates - buying cheap and selling them for the profit in future.

You’re confusing buying cheap with buying highly promising youngsters, keeping them for 2-3 years and then selling them for a huge profit. They will sell may be 1 star a season whilst also maintaining a title and/or top 3 challenge. Dortmund should be admired.

 

[Shadydan]

Hindsight is wonderful of course but, Eriksen, especially, as soon as it’s clear he isn’t signing the extension, get rid. Make it public he’s not interested and fuck him off when he has two years to run.

It seems like he tried punting Rose and Wanyama on much earlier than he managed to get them shifted. Perhaps he was asking too much money, unrealistic amounts.

I don’t think he’s always been poor in the market, quite the opposite but I think he’s absolutely lost his touch. Bad business can also mean no business. Shocking approach over the last couple of years which is the reason why we are in the situation we are in.

Eriksen made it pubic that he didn't want to stay at Spurs after the CL final...we tried to sell him THAT SAME SUMMER to Man utd besides you're scenario isn't realistic at all - you can't sell them or fuck them off if they have absolutely no intention of leaving or if they have their eye on certain club(s), in this case it was the latter as far as he was concerned.

Perhaps or perhaps not...again you're speculating and again if he was asking for a lot of money so what, he's perfectly entitled to. Liverpool asked for £130m for Coutinho and they got it, Leicester asked for £80m for Maguire and they got it. We live in an era where player's aren't cheap and clubs will do everything to maximise the value of their players, it's not exclusive to Daniel Levy - in fact he should be commended for trying to get back a huge amount for an asset but it's seemingly one of those weird angles that fans bring up as a negative against him.

I'm not sure about him losing his touch, I certainly think he took his eye of the ball with the stadium though and i think this is a huge factor as to why we find ourselves where we are now whether positively or negatively, having said that he managed to do very good deals for Lo Celso, Bergwijn and Sessegnon - Bergwijn transfer fee seemingly has gone under the radar, it's an absolute steal IMO.

 

[Shadydan]

Hoping when ENIC sell we are taken over by whoever is running B Dortmund , fantastic transfer dealings.

Dortmund couldn't do what they did if they were in the Premier League and be successful. Their whole standing as a club is built on nurturing players and selling them on for profit - the reason they can do it with ease is because they are the 2nd biggest team in the league and they don't have serious expectations to win the league consistently, not sure that strategy would work in the Prem TBH.

 

[shelfboy68]

Dortmund couldn't do what they did if they were in the Premier League and be successful. Their whole standing as a club is built on nurturing players and selling them on for profit - the reason they can do it with ease is because they are the 2nd biggest team in the league and they don't have serious expectations to win the league consistently, not sure that strategy would work in the Prem TBH.

It works well enough for us we can be considered a team that has no serious expectations to win the league but instead are open to selling top players for big profit.
This isn't a rant about the club just an honest appraisal of the clubs MO which they are entitled to do if course.

 

[Shadydan]

It works well enough for us we can be considered a team that has no serious expectations to win the league but instead are open to selling top players for big profit.
This isn't a rant about the club just an honest appraisal of the clubs MO which they are entitled to do if course.

If that were indeed the case Kane wouldn't still be at the club, the likes of Rose, Vertonghen, Toby, Lloris etc... would have left in their prime. The difference is that we are actively TRYING to win hence the comparison not quite matching up.

 

[shelfboy68]

If that were indeed the case Kane wouldn't still be at the club, the likes of Rose, Vertonghen, Toby, Lloris etc... would have left in their prime. The difference is that we are actively TRYING to win hence the comparison not quite matching up.

Kane hasn't left yet that much is true but that's not to say he won't in the future after all he must be desperate to win something and let's face it that isn't happening at spurs for the foreseeable.

 

[Shadydan]

Kane hasn't left yet that much is true but that's not to say he won't in the future after all he must be desperate to win something and let's face it that isn't happening at spurs for the foreseeable.

That's a different point altogether

 

[nedley]

Wrong Fernandes guys.

And no we don't want Charlie fucking Adam.

 

[Lighty64]

You’re confusing buying cheap with buying highly promising youngsters, keeping them for 2-3 years and then selling them for a huge profit. They will sell may be 1 star a season whilst also maintaining a title and/or top 3 challenge. Dortmund should be admired.

not a dig at you, but what Dortmund do is superb, but the trouble we have in this country is that this is the most competitive league in the world and why so many foreign players struggle to adapt from the go.

yes Ndombele could do with shedding a few pounds but I remember texting a friend after we played Norwich and Southampton during the Xmas period, and said "he doesn't like it, and not sure he can handle it".

I wouldn't mind their scouting system