Disappointed with our lack of transfer strategy

[yankspurs]

we make lots of signings but i'm not convinced we ever actually improve our first xi.

I think, this season at least, Davies and Rose will push eachother to get better, therefore improving the LB position. We improved greatly at RW with Lamela coming in for Lennon. That is 2 positions improved, 'ergo improving the first XI. We still dont have a left side of the midfield though.

 

[nidge]

We can't spend our way to glory it's against the Tottenham tradition.

I'm sure some of the older members of this site can correct me if I am wrong but back in the days when we won the double I am pretty sure we were big spenders.

I also think the £99,999 we paid for Greaves was a UK transfer record at the time and the £200,000 for Martin Peters was a UK record at the time as well.

 

[spurs9]

Bale...modric...Berbatov...Carrick?

Buying players with potential for a relatively low fee, help them reach their potential and then sell the for a massive profit. Sounds like a good transfer strategy to me.

I remember, I think it was when Arnesen was first hired, Levy said we can't afford t sign WC players (neither fee nor wages), so we have to try and sign players with potential before they turn WC and that is exactly what we do.

If it wasn't for our transfer strategy, we probably would never see players of the caliber you mentioned play for us, instead we would be signing players in their twilight years when on one else wants them.

 

[ultimateloner]

I'm sure some of the older members of this site can correct me if I am wrong but back in the days when we won the double I am pretty sure we were big spenders.

I also think the £99,999 we paid for Greaves was a UK transfer record at the time and the £200,000 for Martin Peters was a UK record at the time as well.

Ok what I said was wrong and only applies for the last decade

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Firstly and most importantly to start off I want to stress that I'm not a Levy hater..infact I am conscious that in Daniel Levy we have one of the more astute and forward thinking chairman in PL football. However I do have an issue..and that is with our transfer strategy over recent years.

Where do I begin on this? I'll summarise, firstly we are a selling club...never gonna push on and cement that top 4 when we sell our best players..regardless of fees...it's sends the wrong message to our playing staff and other teams. Secondly..the fact manager after manager have come in and stated that our squad is unbalanced..for Christ sakes us fans can see we are too overloaded in midfield..don't have the quality in defence or the depth up front, if we can see it..why can't our manager(s) sort this out. I have seen us this summer bring in a couple of decent signings including the token 'but for the future types' and around us clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton have made significant improvements. I don't wanna go into the failings of last summers signings..but believe in order for us to be a top 4 club we need a squad of top 4 quality..we don't have that. We have a spattering of top quality, and too much dead wood. I'm hopeful of Poch, and the next couple of weeks, but seriously think our transfer strategy to date has been negligible.

We have been expedient. We did it all in one go last year.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

I'm sure some of the older members of this site can correct me if I am wrong but back in the days when we won the double I am pretty sure we were big spenders.

I also think the £99,999 we paid for Greaves was a UK transfer record at the time and the £200,000 for Martin Peters was a UK record at the time as well.

Yes we were the Club that had all the money and bought star players. That's how we did the double etc.

 

[kungfugrip]

I would certainly agree with the OP that something was amiss in last year's transfers when we brought in all those players and not one of them with Premier League experience. That's my biggest problemm with last year. In terms of transfer strategy.....it's been all over the place with managment / coaching / director of football staff changes, so it's maybe no surprise that purchases and sales have caused problems. We need prolonged stability throughout the club to win silverware. Otherwise we'll just keep toiling with no reward.

 

[cornelius knob]

Buying players with potential for a relatively low fee, help them reach their potential and then sell the for a massive profit. Sounds like a good transfer strategy to me.

I find it absolutely shameful that a fan of TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC. should come out with such a statement. We are Spurs, not some fucking feeder club for other clubs. Sell our best players and therefore facilitate the ongoing success of others while we continue to be the nearly men. The ones who just miss out. Absolutely shocked to be reading such comments on a Spurs messageboard. Shame on you.

 

[alamo]

I find it absolutely shameful that a fan of TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC. should come out with such a statement. We are Spurs, not some fucking feeder club for other clubs. Sell our best players and therefore facilitate the ongoing success of others while we continue to be the nearly men. The ones who just miss out. Absolutely shocked to be reading such comments on a Spurs messageboard. Shame on you.

Heh, you certainly have strong opinions. Not to mention a very appropriate username.

Exactly where do you expect the funding to come from to enable the strategy you so strongly advocate?

 

[cliff jones]

I personally felt defence was the key area for strengthening this summer, and we haven't managed to land a stand out performer by the opening day of the season. We've added good depth at go, rb and lb but it's obvious the new boss doesn't fancy our soft centre. The strategy looks good, actions look good especially the bid for Matt the Tache but for me the most important deadline has been missed again. We will start slowly IMO if daws and/or kabs see action. If we miss out again on gd or by the odd point come next May...

 

[cornelius knob]

Heh, you certainly have strong opinions. Not to mention a very appropriate username.

Exactly where do you expect the funding to come from to enable the strategy you so strongly advocate?

With the 14th biggest turnover in European football, we should not be advocating the policy of nuturing players for other teams to buy. We have the funds to keep those players in order to generate our own success. A club like ours, with one of the largest fanbases in the UK, and a worldwide following 3/4 of the premier league can only envy, should be aiming to develop these players for themselves. I take it you advocate the policy of sell your best players, rebuild. Sell your best players, rebuild. Its a never ending cycle of failure. 18 years below the scum and one league cup under enic should tell you this.

 

[alamo]

With the 14th biggest turnover in European football, we should not be advocating the policy of nuturing players for other teams to buy. We have the funds to keep those players in order to generate our own success. A club like ours, with one of the largest fanbases in the UK, and a worldwide following 3/4 of the premier league can only envy, should be aiming to develop these players for themselves. I take it you advocate the policy of sell your best players, rebuild. Sell your best players, rebuild. Its a never ending cycle of failure. 18 years below the scum and one league cup under enic should tell you this.

You said it yourself. We have the 14th biggest turnover.

So what are we supposed to do when the other 13, especially clubs such as Real Madrid, come cherry picking?

I appreciate what you say and the picture you paint of our club but the simple fact is we don't have the financial muscle of the "big boys".

And the players we have had over the years are very rarely fans. They are recruits out for top dollar who as history has shown can easily have their heads turned.

 

[cornelius knob]

You said it yourself. We have the 14th biggest turnover.

So what are we supposed to do when the other 13, especially clubs such as Real Madrid, come cherry picking?

I appreciate what you say and the picture you paint of our club but the simple fact is we don't have the financial muscle of the "big boys".

And the players we have had over the years are very rarely fans. They are recruits out for top dollar who as history has shown can easily have their heads turned.

I accept there will always be occasions when top players move on. I agree that cherry picking will sometimes happen. What I won`t accept is a transfer policy that actively sets out to promote this strategy. What I will always disagree with is seeing my club happy to accept its position in the pecking order. If we`re 14th on the money list now, I want to be 13th or 12th next year. I think we deserve more than to be seen as a feeder club.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

With the 14th biggest turnover in European football, we should not be advocating the policy of nuturing players for other teams to buy. We have the funds to keep those players in order to generate our own success. A club like ours, with one of the largest fanbases in the UK, and a worldwide following 3/4 of the premier league can only envy, should be aiming to develop these players for themselves. I take it you advocate the policy of sell your best players, rebuild. Sell your best players, rebuild. Its a never ending cycle of failure. 18 years below the scum and one league cup under enic should tell you this.

Mate. Bale, Modric and Berba each forced their transfers through. Player power rules the waves. The best thing clubs can do is get them on long term contracts and get best price possible.

 

[cornelius knob]

Mate. Bale, Modric and Berba each forced their transfers through. Player power rules the waves. The best thing clubs can do is get them on long term contracts and get best price possible.

Your missing my point. I`m arguing against having a transfer strategy to buy players with the sole intention of improving them in order to sell them on for a profit. As was being advocated by another poster. I want to see a transfer strategy with the intention of improving the fucking team on the pitch. My team. not some other team two years down the line.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Your missing my point. I`m arguing against having a transfer strategy to buy players with the sole intention of improving them in order to sell them on for a profit. As was being advocated by another poster. I want to see a transfer strategy with the intention of improving the fucking team on the pitch. My team. not some other team two years down the line.

You're basically arguing a case against something which you don't understand and will never understand because you don't know what's going on inside the club. You're saying that Levy only buys players to make a profit but you fail to acknowledge the fact that the players can't be sold for a profit unless they do actually improve the team in the first place. We've been on the up since ENIC came in but it's just not happening fast enough for some of you I guess.

It's also a good thing that the overall value of our squad has risen since Levy took charge because it means that when a player wants to leave (you realise they sometimes want to leave right?) we don't have a situation like what's just happened at Southampton.

 

[parklane1]

Your missing my point. I`m arguing against having a transfer strategy to buy players with the sole intention of improving them in order to sell them on for a profit. As was being advocated by another poster. I want to see a transfer strategy with the intention of improving the fucking team on the pitch. My team. not some other team two years down the line.

It depends on if YOU actually believe that is the case, because i see no evidence on that just assumptions.

 

[SteveH]

There’s no point trying to reason with someone who does not want to listen to reason.

 

[cornelius knob]

There’s no point trying to reason with someone who does not want to listen to reason.

Couldn`t agree more. Shame you and I are in such a minority. So many losers on here seem happy for us to just accept our shocking record of achievement under Enic. They seem to think 5th or 6th is our ceiling and we should all be grateful to be where we are. Like you, I believe a club like THFC should always be aiming higher.

 

[cornelius knob]

You're basically arguing a case against something which you don't understand and will never understand because you don't know what's going on inside the club. only buys You're saying that Levy players to make a profit but you fail to acknowledge the fact that the players can't be sold for a profit unless they do actually improve the team in the first place. We've been on the up since ENIC came in but it's just not happening fast enough for some of you I guess.

It's also a good thing that the overall value of our squad has risen since Levy took charge because it means that when a player wants to leave (you realise they sometimes want to leave right?) we don't have a situation like what's just happened at Southampton.

Oh for crying out loud. let me spell it out. A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM POSTED THAT HAVING A TRANSFER STRATEGY OF DEVELOPING YOUNG PLAYERS WITH THE INTENTION OF SELLING THEM FOR PROFIT WAS ADMIRABLE. Not me, someone else. I.e, another person. What I said was that for a fellow yid to advocate such a policy, especially as we`ve actually won next to fuck-all under Lewis/Levy, was shameful. And your bit about Southampton ? Well surely your not gonna start comparing Spurs with Southampton. Ridiculous.