Disappointed with our lack of transfer strategy

[cornelius knob]

"We will go into next season having strengthened key positions" Daniel Levy towards the end of last season. A season which saw multiple humiliations the like of which have not been witnessed by a whole generation of Spurs fans. A season where we we lost 3 times to West Ham. Sam Allardyce`s West Ham. Three times. Let that sink in.
Our season starts in less than 48 hours against Sam Allardyce`s Pikey ****s. So, looking at the team thats likely to be starting, where would you all say we have strengthened. I mean, really strengthened.

 

[Donki]

I think it was ValenciaYid (back in the 606 days was as good as ITK gets) who provided a bit of a back-story to that transfer. Apparently Carrick had heard the news about United's interest, and went to speak to Levy about it. Carrick told Levy he would be happy to stay, but in return for (an apparently reasonable) pay rise. As the story goes, Levy laughed him out of the office.

According to Carrick himself he was with the World Cup squad when he heard of the intrest and he was desprate to move to United, which doesnt sound like a guy who "was happy to stay". sorry to piss all over ITK and all

 

[Jimbo78]

Who should we of signed then?

Who would of been an improvement on what we have and realistically could get?

I think you will struggle to think of anyone.

Threads like this make me laugh

 

[Shadydan]

This selling club nonesense needs to stop.

 

[Hoowl]

"We will go into next season having strengthened key positions" Daniel Levy towards the end of last season. A season which saw multiple humiliations the like of which have not been witnessed by a whole generation of Spurs fans. A season where we we lost 3 times to West Ham. Sam Allardyce`s West Ham. Three times. Let that sink in.
Our season starts in less than 48 hours against Sam Allardyce`s Pikey ****s. So, looking at the team thats likely to be starting, where would you all say we have strengthened. I mean, really strengthened.

Manager. And left back. They were definitely key areas for improvement.

 

[ParkySpur]

Firstly and most importantly I want to stress that I'm not a hater full stop.....but I will say I'm disappointed with your thread title.

FFS. What "strategy" are expecting? Football Manager strategy?

Or a strategy of letting the £105m of talent having a chance to impress without of mess of a management situation?
A strategy of strengthening LB, going for a CB and a better CM?

And how can anyone here really and truly know what's going on behind the scenes? We don't, simples.

Of course there is a bloody strategy. And I bet it's a sensible one. We just don't know what it is. And it's quite right we shouldn't.

Some people will never be happy.

 

[SpurSince57]

Firstly and most importantly to start off I want to stress that I'm not a Levy hater..infact I am conscious that in Daniel Levy we have one of the more astute and forward thinking chairman in PL football. However I do have an issue..and that is with our transfer strategy over recent years.

Where do I begin on this? I'll summarise, firstly we are a selling club...never gonna push on and cement that top 4 when we sell our best players..regardless of fees...it's sends the wrong message to our playing staff and other teams. Secondly..the fact manager after manager have come in and stated that our squad is unbalanced..for Christ sakes us fans can see we are too overloaded in midfield..don't have the quality in defence or the depth up front, if we can see it..why can't our manager(s) sort this out. I have seen us this summer bring in a couple of decent signings including the token 'but for the future types' and around us clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton have made significant improvements. I don't wanna go into the failings of last summers signings..but believe in order for us to be a top 4 club we need a squad of top 4 quality..we don't have that. We have a spattering of top quality, and too much dead wood. I'm hopeful of Poch, and the next couple of weeks, but seriously think our transfer strategy to date has been negligible.

No shit! And how do you suggest we go about signing a top four quality squad? Spend as much as City and Chelsea on players and wages, perhaps?

What significant improvement have Everton made? They had Lukaku and Barry last season. They've signed a midfielder from Ferencvaros, someone no-one's heard of from MK Dons, and got Atsu on loan. Last season we got more points per game under Sherwood than they did, so it's not unreasonable to suppose we can do at least as well under Mo.

 

[DogsOfWar]

Surely this is the one season where we have got the transfer policy right?

The manager has identified the targets and the chairman has gone after them. We have solved the depth in the back five issue with Davis, Dier, and Vorm.
And if we can finalise the deals with MM and MS then all Pochs targets will have been bought in. And we have not gone for second choices, we are only going for those that Poch wants.
The fact we have not chased a striker suggests Poch rates the ones we have which is hardly surprising as we would have bitten someones hand off for Adebayor and Soldado a couple of years ago.

 

[nicdic]

Manager. And left back. They were definitely key areas for improvement.

Plus GK.

We strengthened the key positions. Any on top of that is a bonus.

 

[HobbitSpur]

I also do not see us as a Selling club. Are Madrid a selling Club? Aee Arsenal a selling club? Are Bayern a selling club? Players move about, if no one sold their players then there would be no players for anyone, including THFC, to buy.

No one seems to really moan about us selling players like Livermore, Huddlestone, Falque, Parker, etc. but the noises start getting louder when we sell players like Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc. However, we did not sell the latter 3 mentioned. We cashed in because they wanted away.

IMO a selling club is a club that needs to sell its top talent to survive (Monaco for example ). We do not need to sell any of our players to survive, however the beast that football now is means that we cannot force players to stay with us that do not want to, and this applies to every single football team o the planet.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

@cornelius knob , after you've told us how Levy is ruining the club, could you tell us about how Sherwood was definitely staying?

 

[dontcallme]

It's amazing how many fans think we're a selling club because we don't have a high net spend.

We had a high net spend in the 90s and it was shit. We didn't pay the wages to get genuine top players and continuously bought players in the twilight of their careers for high fees.

Once Levy brought in Arnesen we got rid of many of our older players very quickly and without investing much became the 5th best team in the country.

We were suddenly buying players the likes of Utd and Madrid wanted, didn't have many of those previously. Surely this is a good thing.

We've upped our wage bill continuously, which is investment, and we've been able to buy highly thought of internationals. We certainly weren't getting players of the calibre of Lloris and Lamela before Levy. One again I think this is a good thing.

Only Spurs fans could see their team continuously improve the quality of players they are buying within the financial structure of the club as a bad thing.

If we sold an average player for £20m and bought an international player for £10m some would see this as not investing.

 

[Lilbaz]

It's amazing how many fans think we're a selling club because we don't have a high net spend.

We had a high net spend in the 90s and it was shit. We didn't pay the wages to get genuine top players and continuously bought players in the twilight of their careers or high fees.

Once Levy brought in Arnesen we got rid of many of our older players very quickly and without investing much became the 5th best team in the country.

We were suddenly buying players the likes of Utd and Madrid wanted, didn't have many of those previously. Surely this is a good thing.

We've upped our wage bill continuously, which is investment, and we've been able to buy highly thought of internationals. We certainly weren't getting players of the calibre of Lloris and Lamela before Levy. One again I think this is a good thing.

Only Spurs fans could see their team continuously improve the quality of players they are buying within the financial structure of the club as a bad thing.

If we sold an average player for £20m and bought an international player for £10m some would see this as not investing.

Was there a player in the Sugar years that we made a profit on? Sheringham, Popescu?

 

[dontcallme]

Was there a player in the Sugar years that we made a profit on? Sheringham, Popescu?

I miss those years when we invested, so much better than Levy's penny pinching

I guess we made a profit on Barmby but there really weren't many.

 

[Metalhead]

It's amazing how many fans think we're a selling club because we don't have a high net spend.

We had a high net spend in the 90s and it was shit. We didn't pay the wages to get genuine top players and continuously bought players in the twilight of their careers for high fees.

Once Levy brought in Arnesen we got rid of many of our older players very quickly and without investing much became the 5th best team in the country.

We were suddenly buying players the likes of Utd and Madrid wanted, didn't have many of those previously. Surely this is a good thing.

We've upped our wage bill continuously, which is investment, and we've been able to buy highly thought of internationals. We certainly weren't getting players of the calibre of Lloris and Lamela before Levy. One again I think this is a good thing.

Only Spurs fans could see their team continuously improve the quality of players they are buying within the financial structure of the club as a bad thing.

If we sold an average player for £20m and bought an international player for £10m some would see this as not investing.

Oh wow, when you consider the types of players that were brought in during the early Enic years (Acimovic, Bunjevcevic etc.) to now then it's easy to see the progression!

 

[guiltyparty]

Firstly and most importantly to start off I want to stress that I'm not a Levy hater..infact I am conscious that in Daniel Levy we have one of the more astute and forward thinking chairman in PL football. However I do have an issue..and that is with our transfer strategy over recent years.

Where do I begin on this? I'll summarise, firstly we are a selling club...never gonna push on and cement that top 4 when we sell our best players..regardless of fees...it's sends the wrong message to our playing staff and other teams. Secondly..the fact manager after manager have come in and stated that our squad is unbalanced..for Christ sakes us fans can see we are too overloaded in midfield..don't have the quality in defence or the depth up front, if we can see it..why can't our manager(s) sort this out. I have seen us this summer bring in a couple of decent signings including the token 'but for the future types' and around us clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton have made significant improvements. I don't wanna go into the failings of last summers signings..but believe in order for us to be a top 4 club we need a squad of top 4 quality..we don't have that. We have a spattering of top quality, and too much dead wood. I'm hopeful of Poch, and the next couple of weeks, but seriously think our transfer strategy to date has been negligible.

 

[dontcallme]

Oh wow, when you consider the types of players that were brought in during the early Enic years (Acimovic, Bunjevcevic etc.) to now then it's easy to see the progression!

Exactly. Levy's first move was to sack the unpopular Graham for the popular Hoddle. Hoddle went and did the same thing as the managers throughout the 90s, buying dross.

Once Levy saw we were stuck in a loop he put a caretaker manager in charge and took a season to analyse where our issues were as it clearly wasn't simply the manager.

Once he stamped his authority and changed our setup we've seen vast improvements throughout the club.

 

[SFCS]

Oh Christ, I despise this "we are a selling club" bullshit, because thats exactly what it is...bullshit spouted by fans of other clubs and the media, and far too many Spurs fans buy into it.

We are no more of a selling club than any other IMO. Liverpool have just sold Suarez and so far bought, what 9 players. They've done exactly what we did last year but where is the bile that we received now when it is the media's beloved Liverpool??

Being a "selling club" is just one side of the coin. All clubs get screwed over by their best players, there are the ones that throw money at them to stay(Rooney-United, Toure-City, Terry-Chelsea) and there are those that can't afford to keep them happy so have to sell.

To be fair, there were plenty in the media that praised our dealings last summer. They conveniently forgot that when quickly enough when things didn't go so well but they were positive about us at the start. What I can't wait to see is the transfer spending being used as a stick to beat Liverpool and Southampton with if they don't do so well, like they did with us. Except they won't do that, they'll always be sure to reference "project" and "rebuilding" or put emphasis on net spend.

At least with Southampton they'll probably say that they shouldn't have sold their best players, as if it was that simple. Liverpool have already had pundits showering them with praise for selling Suarez who "let them down" with his behaviour, after the media spent the season gushing over how Suarez had turned over a new leaf just because he spent 5 minutes without racially abusing or biting anyone. They always seem to be in a win/win situation whatever they do, Kenny's "support the racist" t-shirts aside.

 

[Blake Griffin]

we make lots of signings but i'm not convinced we ever actually improve our first xi.

 

[yankspurs]

I do agree that we are overcrowded at CM and we need to strengthen in defense and up front. Worries me that Poch is looking to bring in yet another CM, yet he's already said we are unbalanced. So instead of tring to gain a balance, he is focusing on a 9th CM and Musacchio. Sell 3 CM's(if you want MS), sell Lennon/Townsend and bring in a left winger. We are not going to achieve a balance if we are weak at left winger(our 3 winger choices are 2 useless players and someone better served as a squad player). LW is an obvious weakness and Poch is doing nothing to shore it up until January when he wants to bring in Rodriguez. So we are still going to be very unbalanced.