guiltyparty
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Enormous respect for the guy but you don't need his memory when you have eyes
Dele Alli charged with violent conduct
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Enormous respect for the guy but you don't need his memory when you have eyes
mil1lion
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He has until 6pm to prevent his defence (I guess his defence attorney is Eric Dier)
TottenhamMattSpur
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If it was Mahrez that did that you'd all be baying for blood.
Whether he hurt the guy or not is completely irrelevant. He intentionally threw a punch. Utterly disgraceful behaviour and i don't want our players acting like that.
Whether he hurt the guy or not is completely irrelevant. He intentionally threw a punch. Utterly disgraceful behaviour and i don't want our players acting like that.
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It was so little even the TV didn't bother commentating on it until long after the game. Long enough that I'd already turned off.
He'll get a ban because we have to be the bad guys in everything, but there's been much worse happen on a pitch with no action taken..
He'll get a ban because we have to be the bad guys in everything, but there's been much worse happen on a pitch with no action taken..
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It really is no worse than when players lead with their arms when they go up for a header, they always leave a little something on a player. Or when a player makes a tackle and goes through the player to leave a bit on them. This is only being brought up because it was off the ball and the ref didn't see it. If the ref had seen it then he would have shown a yellow card and he wouldn't be facing a suspension.
I actually thought his kick against Fiorentina was worse than this and probably the reason he's being punished for this one. The trouble is players are going to target him now and he'll do well not to react. People criticise him for lashing out but he was just giving as good as he got. I like that he has that fight in him. So now he will get punished and Yacob gets nothing for the persistent kicks on Alli.
I actually thought his kick against Fiorentina was worse than this and probably the reason he's being punished for this one. The trouble is players are going to target him now and he'll do well not to react. People criticise him for lashing out but he was just giving as good as he got. I like that he has that fight in him. So now he will get punished and Yacob gets nothing for the persistent kicks on Alli.
Whilst I'm not defending him, what bothers me is the whole 'trial by tv' thing.
From what I've read, the incident was captured on US television and spread from there. Ok it would (presumably) have been the official premier league 'feed' onto US tv, but is it right that the FA are dealing with incidents because Hank Spunkmeyer III has put it on youtube?!
Does a live game mean more cameras and therefore more chance of 'getting caught'??
As I say, he was silly and hopefully will learn from it but it bothers me that the FA are relying on footage from around the world to run their disciplinary procedures in this instance.
From what I've read, the incident was captured on US television and spread from there. Ok it would (presumably) have been the official premier league 'feed' onto US tv, but is it right that the FA are dealing with incidents because Hank Spunkmeyer III has put it on youtube?!
Does a live game mean more cameras and therefore more chance of 'getting caught'??
As I say, he was silly and hopefully will learn from it but it bothers me that the FA are relying on footage from around the world to run their disciplinary procedures in this instance.
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Just crazy talk imo. The incident happened. All games are televised and have all sorts of camera angles. Blaming the TV is ignoring that Alli threw a punch. Even crazier is suggesting that because the game feed was shown on American TV somehow makes the incident un-reportable...
I agree that it is debatable whether the action warrants a suspension - but that is for the FA to decide.
Of course, if you don't want trial by TV - then the solution is to take the cameras away from the stadium - don't broadcast any games, and don't pocket any of the money that comes from broadcasting all the games...
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Rubbish! Vertonghen got elbowed by Wickham earlier in the season and I said then Vertonghen was the provocateur. Alli has in him what I have, the desire to bring about my own retribution as it isn't being dealt with by the officials. I have done similar on the football pitch so I know where this is coming from though I am not saying it is right. I'm saying its totally understandable. If you cant understand this then you have something going on I don't understand, maybe you've never stood up for yourself.
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Oooo - a fellow Trekie!
Original series tho bro!
TottenhamMattSpur
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You play Sunday league football. It's just a free for all for thugs.
Wickham assaulted Vertonghen and put him out of the game for 3 months!
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Yeh it was stupid, but we have to remember he's a 20yr old that has been catapulted into the spotlight from the 1st division. And has been targeted by almost every opposition we've played because of his obvious talent.
I've lost count of the amount of articles and comments that have been written about this KID, which can only add to the pressure he must feel to perform to the standard people now expect.
So fuck it, I don't give a shit, if it was me I most probably would've stamped on the ****s head after the 3rd bad tackle.
I've lost count of the amount of articles and comments that have been written about this KID, which can only add to the pressure he must feel to perform to the standard people now expect.
So fuck it, I don't give a shit, if it was me I most probably would've stamped on the ****s head after the 3rd bad tackle.
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Any idea when he'll get punished now he's accepted the charge?
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No one's forgetting that. There are loads of reasons for it, and it's good he'll be reprimanded for a fairly nothing thing rather than, say, getting sent off in a Champions League game (as he would have been if that had been seen in the comp) or in the Euros in the summer (it was worse than what Beckham got sent off for against Argentina).
The issue is people saying "it was nothing", or "he didn't do anything", as it's mass denial and isn't at all helpful. He punched him, anyone who says he didn't after seeing all the video footage is a liar, it's embarrassing, and I'll laugh my arse off next time you feel we're hard done by when an opposition player does anything
PS: The guy who did a 'WTF' to my last comment - yes, enormous respect for the West Brom player for not making a meal out of it. Do you really not get that? Let's remember that if Simeone hadn't fallen over, gesturing towards Beckham, the ref probably wouldn't have seen it.
People seem to have an increasing lack of ability for removing emotion from situations. Simeone is now one of the best managers in the world, and was a great player, but was also a dirty cheat and diver. Similarly, saying Dele Alli should have been sent off, and is right to be banned, doesn't mean you have to think he's a dick, that's he's not been great this year or that it's not understandable he did what he did. They're not mutually exclusive.
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deluded-yid
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Ooh sorry sir, maybe you should tell him to write 'I should not retaliate' 100 times on the board. Or put him on the naughty step.
Maybe because I said how I would retaliate, you assume i'm condoning his actions, which i'm not. But I won't berate the boy for doing what most hot headed 20yr olds would've done.
At least a 3 game ban will give him time to reflect on his actions and maybe watch a few videos of the Stuart Pearce approach to no nonsense tackling.
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