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Deadline Day?

Would you be happy with our business going to the wire again?

  • Yes, it's the best way we can do profitable business (DL's got this etc.)

    Votes: 7 4.0%
  • Happy enough, but I'd rather we had our business finalised before our first fixture.

    Votes: 82 47.1%
  • Goat.

    Votes: 7 4.0%
  • Not really, once bitten, twice shy.

    Votes: 22 12.6%
  • Not at all, brinkmanship has cost is more than it's saved us.

    Votes: 56 32.2%

  • Total voters
    174

Paolo10

Well-Known Member
Apr 6, 2004
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So, 13 days until our first fixture and nothing resembling major ins or outs as yet. After losing Niko, Stevie P., Pav, Saha, Nelson, King and signing Sigurdsson and Vertonghen there still seems to be a lot of work to be done, with the squad looking especially light on strikers.

Would you be happy with our major business going past our first fixture and indeed possibly down to the wire live on SSN with that twat with the mobile phones, Jim White and co. again?
 

Qualsonic

Good Grief
Nov 24, 2010
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So, 13 days until our first fixture and nothing resembling major ins or outs as yet. After losing Niko, Stevie P., Pav, Saha, Nelson, King and signing Sigurdsson and Vertonghen there still seems to be a lot of work to be done, with the squad looking especially light on strikers.

Would you be happy with our major business going past our first fixture and indeed possibly down to the wire live on SSN with that twat with the mobile phones, Jim White and co. again?
I'd argue Verts and Gylfi resemble major signings.
 

Legacy

SC Supporter
Mar 29, 2007
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6,298
We need a striker signed and ready before Newcastle. We can't start the season with Defoe up front, that will cost us points.

Any other transfers, whilst obviously preferring them to be done ASAP, aren't as critical to me that they can't be done at the end of the window.

Get Adebayor, or whoever else we want up front, done next week, and I'll be relaxed enough for the first couple of games as well as the rest of the window.
 

Paolo10

Well-Known Member
Apr 6, 2004
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I'd argue they're more like replacements for players we've already lost in King and Niko/Stevie P. Kind of missing the point though.
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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If we have to sacrifice the first couple of games to get the right deals for the season then so be it. I don't want us to be screwed over because we lack patience. And who knows. We might actually win them anyway.
 

AB27

Active Member
Jun 17, 2012
328
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To be honest with you, I wouldn't mind it going down to the final day, but it hinges on two things:

1) We'd have to do well in our fixtures up to that point (i.e., win).
2) We'd have to have something good happen on transfer day to make it worth the wait.

If we're going to sign some players that aren't major transfer coups, I'd rather they came in earlier so they could adapt. But pragmatically speaking, I understand the need to leave it late to save money.
 

Montasura

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2008
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We need a striker signed and ready before Newcastle. We can't start the season with Defoe up front, that will cost us points.

Any other transfers, whilst obviously preferring them to be done ASAP, aren't as critical to me that they can't be done at the end of the window.

Get Adebayor, or whoever else we want up front, done next week, and I'll be relaxed enough for the first couple of games as well as the rest of the window.

This sums up my thoughts perfectly. Get a striker in soon and I'm happy to wait until deadline day.
 

Blackcanary

Dame sans merci
Jul 15, 2012
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12,170
Oh god, i've just realised that i'm on holiday for deadline day. *facepalm* WHAT WAS I THINKING?!

On topic: We've done business like this for as long as I can remember. Is it ideal? No. But i'm not optimistic that it will change...
 

chinaman

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2003
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If we have to sacrifice the first couple of games to get the right deals for the season then so be it. I don't want us to be screwed over because we lack patience. And who knows. We might actually win them anyway.

And who's to say that we can't pull off another VDVesque deal?
 

Mattspur

ENIC IN
Jan 7, 2004
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My worry isn't so much, doing the business to late, it's doing the business at all.
 

RichieS

Well-Known Member
Dec 23, 2004
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I'd argue they're more like replacements for players we've already lost in King and Niko/Stevie P. Kind of missing the point though.
Surely that's a bit of streamlining though? We had about 8000 each of centre backs and attacking mids. We now have (arguably, I know) the best pool of centre backs in the league and 2 (3 counting Modric) good to very good players competing for 1 attacking mid spot.

I'm calm and collected about the Modric situation - either Madrid meet our terms or he has to stop being a fanny and get on with it. If they didn't meet our terms until late in the window then we'd just have to bite the bullet and use the money to hit Moutinho's release clause - not ideal financially but Porto would have no way of blocking the deal and I think he'd sign given his recent comments about AVB.

The striker crisis obviously needs sorting, but I really believe we'll have one better than Defoe tied up before the season starts. I suspect any deadline day incoming this year will be striker backup/competition (perhaps Ade when City bums finally squeak, maybe, dare I say it, Berba).
 

walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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Personally although I am concerned because it isn't done, I think that AVB would not have come had he not been given assurances that he would be able to buy players. He would also be aware that we are in a position where getting players that will actually make the difference are not easy (or cheap) to get.

My feeling is that the Modric situation is having a significant impact on us, on the one hand we need to replace him, and on the other his replacement assumes his loss. As he is still here we can't replace him.

On the striker front, there is very little chance that we will start the season with Kane and Defoe as our only strikers.

I would say that we will finish the window with Modric still here and Ade or Leandro (perhaps both) coming in.
 

sim0n

King of Prussia
Jan 29, 2005
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So, 13 days until our first fixture and nothing resembling major ins or outs as yet. After losing Niko, Stevie P., Pav, Saha, Nelson, King and signing Sigurdsson and Vertonghen there still seems to be a lot of work to be done, with the squad looking especially light on strikers.

Would you be happy with our major business going past our first fixture and indeed possibly down to the wire live on SSN with that twat with the mobile phones, Jim White and co. again?

o_O except for King, none of those folks are starters. Verts bought to sort that out and Siggi can play more than one midfield position. Still need 2 strikers (Ade and Remy please) and a RW (Afallay on the cheap?). Just sayn'
 

Paolo10

Well-Known Member
Apr 6, 2004
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It's a squad game and as it stands at the moment i beleieve we're slightly weaker than we were last season, the striker situation being the main issue.

It's at the point now where it's less than 2 weeks for the first games and from how protracted our negotiations seem to be I'm not quite as confident of us being able to sign these mythical forwards...especially seeing as lots of other clubs will know what we need with time running out.

Integrating players with the squad would be nice before we start the season for a change, I'm not even sure Siggi is a guaranteed starter unless Luka does go.

We've been down this road with striking targets a few times before recently and been severely let down...and this tactic hasn't always done us well, quite the opposite in fact IMO.
 

parklane1

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2012
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So, 13 days until our first fixture and nothing resembling major ins or outs as yet. After losing Niko, Stevie P., Pav, Saha, Nelson, King and signing Sigurdsson and Vertonghen there still seems to be a lot of work to be done, with the squad looking especially light on strikers.

Would you be happy with our major business going past our first fixture and indeed possibly down to the wire live on SSN with that twat with the mobile phones, Jim White and co. again?

We also have Caulker and Naughton back, so as long as we get a striker ( and we will) we are in a much stronger posistion.
 

Paolo10

Well-Known Member
Apr 6, 2004
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If we really want to kick on we need 2 strikers and to finally 'streamline' the real shit from the squad. We've needed to do this for a LONG time now, Bassong, Gio and Jenas need to finally leave.

Then there's replacing Modric if he is going, do we trust Sig in that role? Looking for a new keeper...there are a few other tweaks to be done and we can't seem to do the most important thing (forwards), where we've been noticeably lacking for a couple of seasons.

Just wanted a gauge of the opinion, I'm worried at this point. Another quiet week would be devastatingly disappointing.
 

Tomdon

Active Member
Jul 27, 2012
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Less than 2 weeks for the 1st match and it looks like Defoe is going be playing in our attacking line.....Should I continue ?
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
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People have to understand where Spurs are in the football food chain. Figure out which players would be deemed good enough for a team like us, who won't be bought by teams with bigger resources than us, who would like to move to us, would fit into our wage structure. Try and work out where strikers fit in the list of priorities for the clubs in the football food chain.

We are a team with ambition, but one who must operate in a sustainable way. We have no choice. We can not just make acquisitions based on a football only basis. We have to make acquisitions that make fiscal and football sense.

The reality is I'm sure we would love to get our business done early, but we have a very good team, a team that has achieved 4th last year, so clearly, the type of player that will improve that team is going to come from an incredibly small pool of the higher level of talent. But here's the rub; There are quite a few clubs around europe who can offer those most coveted players more money (sometimes loads more money) or Champions League football, or both.

Some of those clubs can afford to buy not only what they need, but also more than what they need, thus preventing their rivals from strengthening. This is not new, this has gone on for decades, but it has reached a new level due to the fiscal power of a handful of clubs.

So we have no choice, we have to wait for the big fish to feed. Occasionally we outfox them by gambling on a younger player or one that is unproven but has potential. This is much harder to do with strikers, because everyone sees goals and goal tally's. Other positions can be far more about opinion. But any striker who is worth a wank is immediately on everyone's radar.

Will I be happy if we start the season without a striker other than Defoe and Kane ? Very much not. Do I think there have been mistakes we have made in the transfer market in the past ? Yes.

But do I understand why we do sometimes and might this time have to wait until late in the window ? Yes. Because our signings have to meet more criteria than a simple money no object one, and we are not even top of that food chain.
 

nferno

Waiting for England to finally win the Euros-2024?
Jan 7, 2007
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Aslong as we have a quality striker before Newcastle I'm not fussed on the timescale of the subsequent arrivals.
 

Mullers

Unknown member
Jan 4, 2006
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I hate going down to the wire, there is a long enough transfer window to get deals done, no games should be sacrificed. We have a new manager with the media ready to put the knife in. We get a bad start, the players lose confidence, bad results possibily continue, next thing you know we're looking for a new manager. Ideally new players should have a proper preseason with their new club. If the club are happy for AVB to start the season with his hands tied behind his back, fine, but then the expectation level should be lowered also.
 
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