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Champions League seeding

SugarRay

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Best way to make the competition more interesting and exciting? Revert to the old format!

It never needed changing. Straight two leg knockout, no seeds.

The endless, often, pointless group games can do one then and you'll have massive knockout games right off the bat.
 

SugarRay

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I must have missed the memo when PSG became a 'glamor team'. Won nothing in europe and bought the french leauge

It's purely location + money.

Certainly not history that's for sure. Formed in the fucking 70's

Sort of a posh, rich Rushden & Diamonds
 

Saoirse

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Best way to make the competition more interesting and exciting? Revert to the old format!

It never needed changing. Straight two leg knockout, no seeds.

The endless, often, pointless group games can do one then and you'll have massive knockout games right off the bat.
That horse has long bolted. Would be very boring now with only 5 or so competitive teams each each and at least 25 pieces of cannon fodder. It worked back when leagues were on a relatively similar level, but it wouldn't now.
 

SugarRay

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That horse has long bolted. Would be very boring now with only 5 or so competitive teams each each and at least 25 pieces of cannon fodder. It worked back when leagues were on a relatively similar level, but it wouldn't now.

5 competitive teams? There's 5 competitive teams in the competition from England alone next season. Snatch a draw away and then win the home leg. Any of the English sides could achieve that against all the big dogs on the continent, especially if it's early in the competition. Leicester turned over Sevilla and then gave Atletico a scare of sorts, over the two leg format. The group stage ( along with seedings ) is there to prevent big sides dropping out early

It could potentially throw up a few surprise winners too, which would level the playing field in time, surely?

It'll never return though obviously.
 

Lighty64

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I must have missed the memo when PSG became a 'glamor team'. Won nothing in europe and bought the leauge

Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern and a good few other teams have been doing that for years, and since the introduction of the CL, those teams just get stronger and stronger
 

EighteenEightyTwo

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Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern and a good few other teams have been doing that for years, and since the introduction of the CL, those teams just get stronger and stronger
It's their own revenue that their spending though. OK, there might be some debt, but it's totally different to having a sugar daddy.
 

Lighty64

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It's their own revenue that their spending though. OK, there might be some debt, but it's totally different to having a sugar daddy.

well the 2 Spanish teams do have sugar daddies, the Spanish banks have been funding them for a very long time, but both have got so much more stronger since it become the CL, meaning they can always pay top money for top players. Ronaldo's wages a week or most probably more a week than 75% of the rest players in la liga get for the whole season.

both their squads can afford to rest players and still win easy against teams in the bottom half.

if it was possible to go back to the old ways of having the 3 different euro comps, and only the champions of the league playing in the CL league, a lot of sugar daddies wouldn't of got involved in the game.
 

Chris Flynn

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Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern and a good few other teams have been doing that for years, and since the introduction of the CL, those teams just get stronger and stronger
But those teams have been successful forever and to an extent have 'earned' that money and draw (moneywise madrids 'issues' accepted)
 

matthew.absurdum

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It is clear now. We would be in Pot 2 only if BOTH sevilla and napoli lose in their qualifying matches, which are unlikely I think.
 

Saoirse

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It is clear now. We would be in Pot 2 only if BOTH sevilla and napoli lose in their qualifying matches, which are unlikely I think.

Especially as they'll both be seeded. If the 'strongest' teams progress from the early rounds, they'll be drawn to face one of the following:

Hoffenheim
Sporting Lisbon
CSKA Moscow
Club Brugge
Viktoria Plzen

With other options (who'd be unseeded in the previous round and thus facing one of the above) being Nice, Young Boys, PAOK, Steaua Bucharest, and İstanbul Başakşehir. You could see one of them going out to a relatively tough draw (Hoffenheim/Nice maybe being the two most dangerous), but both is pretty unlikely.
 
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