Can we take a moment to laugh heartily at Everton?

[PLTuck]

Indeed. Btw I only meant the party boy thing as an example, I don’t think he has that label himself.

Wasn’t he recently on twitch or something while we were playing? Feels like he’s just a young kid that needs guidance tbh.

Ah ok, I see what you mean now. I think I just hate football players being pigeonholed into lazy boxes like that by media. Even party boys are not JUST party boys. When did we forget that every individual is a 3 dimensional person?

To be honest as long as it's not while he's playing football I really didn't care if he's playing FIFA or on social media while we were playing. ?
As you say he's just a young man who is perhaps a little immature for his age but nothing extreme. Far more immature comments in every match thread on here. I hope Frank gets a tune out of him.

 

[PLTuck]

Fuck race. And fuck religion while you're there. Doesn't matter if it's fucking Snoop Dogg saying he likes white sugar, or Alan fucking Carr saying he likes brown sugar.

Some fucking jobsworth is gonna pipe up & say "well that's racist". Fuck & off!

Some people are rich, some people are poor. Some people are black, some people are yellow. Some people are white, some people are brown. Some people are lovely, some people are ****s.

Too many are trying to be this gender, that gender, no fucking gender. Too black, not black enough.

Maybe if society could take a step back, look at itself & take stock of what's really important in life, things like respect, self worth, willingness to do for others, not because it's cool, but because it's the right thing to do.

Fucking horrible world!

Sorry, it was me that brought up race. I was posing a question rather than stating it as fact. I also think you'll find I am about as far from being a jobsworth as its possible to get.

Still love ya, ya ****.

 

[McFlash]

Yeah to be fair if I see ANYONE in a Rolls, my first thought is "wanker", but I'll fully accept it's probably just petty envy.

I dunno, I'd love an old style Rolls, like 70's style Silver Shadow. Now that's classic style imo.

 

[McFlash]

Sorry, it was me that brought up race. I was posing a question rather than stating it as fact. I also think you'll find I am about as far from being a jobsworth as its possible to get.

Still love ya, ya ****.

I think it was a fair question to ask, especially after some of the shite in the media over recent (and not so recent) years.
Plus, it wasn't an accusation, just a fair question for discussion.

 

[PLTuck]

I dunno, I'd love an old style Rolls, like 70's style Silver Shadow. Now that's classic style imo.

DB5 or E-Type for me but I get your point. Perception is a strange thing isnt it. If I see someone driving a classic Rolls, or Aston, or anything I think "yeah fair play that is classy". Yet when I see people with modern equivalents I think "tosser" lol.

 

[McFlash]

DB5 or E-Type for me but I get your point. Perception is a strange thing isnt it. If I see someone driving a classic Rolls, or Aston, or anything I think "yeah fair play that is classy". Yet when I see people with modern equivalents I think "tosser" lol.

I think that's maybe an age thing. I'd much rather have a classic from my youth, over a modern equivalent.
I mean, my dream car is probably a mk1 escort!

 

[PLTuck]

I think that's maybe an age thing. I'd much rather have a classic from my youth, over a modern equivalent.
I mean, my dream car is probably a mk1 escort!

TR-7 was my dream car when I was a 6-7 year old ?

 

[Trix]

Indeed. Btw I only meant the party boy thing as an example, I don’t think he has that label himself.

Wasn’t he recently on twitch or something while we were playing? Feels like he’s just a young kid that needs guidance tbh.

He's not a young kid though is he, he's 25.

 

[PLTuck]

He's not a young kid though is he, he's 25.

Not everyone matures at the same rate. Especially those who perhaps feel (rightly or wrongly) they missed out on a decent childhood.

In a biological context, his brain has only just fully formed.

 

[Trix]

Not everyone matures at the same rate. Especially those who perhaps feel (rightly or wrongly) they missed out on a decent childhood.

It's always been the same for Dele excuse after excuse. Perhaps if people had of given it straight 3 years ago that he needed to be more professional and act more like an adult, he wouldn't have wasted 3 years of his career.

 

[PLTuck]

It's always been the same for Dele excuse after excuse. Perhaps if people had of given it straight 3 years ago that he needed to be more professional and act more like an adult, he wouldn't have wasted 3 years of his career.

Is it an excuse that some people are more mature than others at age 25? Is that not just a fact of life?

At 25 I was a single father of 2 young boys. Conversely my nephew at 25 was quite immature and was living like an irresponsible 18 year old still. I don't personally think either is right or wrong. If we were all exactly the same like clones, life would be not only boring, but freaky as fuck.

 

[onthetwo]

Basically in this country we don’t like people being flash or getting ahead of themselves.

Dele should fit right in!

 

[Real_madyidd]

Nothing new, though. Club legend or not, he's full of shit when it comes to beliefs/opinion.

"You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains," he told the Times newspaper. "Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow you reap."

Horrible opinion & you have to be a Horrible person to even think in such a way.

I can never forgive him for that quote, my step daughter was severely disabled (she passed just before Xmas)
Lost all respect & admiration for him after that quote (Cassie was the most amazing person I've ever had the honour to know & love)
He's also got this call wrong, Dele can wear what he wants & drive what he wants, his life, his career

Never seen or heard of this from him before
What a feckin horrible thing to say!
Truly horrible

Two sides to every story. Hoddle says that these are not his beliefs (although he believes in reincarnation) and what was quoted was taken out of context. He wasn't being interviewed at the time (even though it says "he told the Times newspaper"- it wasn't like that). He says that he was being asked about his spirituality (this was all around the time of the Eileen Drewery (sp?) stuff). He said that lots of people believe different things and that they should all be respected, some people believe in Karma and he gave that as an example. At this point the knives were already out for him so the reporter took that quote - totally out of context- and ran with it.

That was what I heard from him first hand at "an evening with..."

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Sorry, it was me that brought up race. I was posing a question rather than stating it as fact. I also think you'll find I am about as far from being a jobsworth as its possible to get.

Still love ya, ya ****.

Sorry if you thought/felt my post was directed at you, it really wasn't & was/is just my thoughts on the world in general.

Almost everything these days ends up spiralling into a race debate & it just does my head in.

I've said so many times on here over the years, despite my loving of swearing & calling newbies a **** , I'm a self confessed drip of a man. I'm one of those deluded twats who just wishes people could get along, treat each other with the respect and dignity that they deserve.

And if someone is a ****, sweet, they don't need to be anything to do with my life. And I don't need to give them even the slightest of second thoughts.

"Golliwogs are racist". Well, they weren't until some jobsworth decided they should be.

"I don't need you to open a door for me, I'm a strong & independent woman". Didn't think otherwise, i was just being chivalrous!

"That **** said I was beautiful, the pervert"

"Don't assume my gender. Yes I'm a boy but".....


It's almost as though we've come to a place where society isn't happy unless they've been given a reason to not be happy. There must be something we can scream about!

Horrible world filled with horrible people.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Is it an excuse that some people are more mature than others at age 25? Is that not just a fact of life?

At 25 I was a single father of 2 young boys. Conversely my nephew at 25 was quite immature and was living like an irresponsible 18 year old still. I don't personally think either is right or wrong. If we were all exactly the same like clones, life would be not only boring, but freaky as fuck.

I'm sure that people who have an issue with his image, or what he does in his own spare time would've been walking examples of perfection if they were millionaires before they even hit their twenties.

I'm also sure those same people wouldn't have been even slightly affected by having their home invaded, getting punched by multiple assailants and robbed at knife point.

If no laws are being broken, and if nobody is being hurt, what gives anyone the right to judge what people do with their own life?

If it doesn't affect you, why be bothered by it?

Like I said in another post. People just want a reason to be angry about something. Nothing is an issue until someone makes it one.

 

[riggi]

He's not a young kid though is he, he's 25.

I used to work with a 50 year old who was more immature than a 17 year old tbf ?

 

[Trix]

I used to work with a 50 year old who was more immature than a 17 year old tbf ?

And a lad I went to school with was a grandfather at 31........

 

[riggi]

And a lad I went to school with was a grandfather at 31........

Crikey. Liverpool?

 

[yankspurs]

And a lad I went to school with was a grandfather at 31........

I......is that even legal????????

 

[Steffen]

And a lad I went to school with was a grandfather at 31........

Probably not a sign of maturity, though