Best Goalkeeper

[Greenspur]

The Official Site is currently running a poll, and Hugo Lloris is ahead of Pat Jennings.
Now, I like Hugo and believe that he is very, very good. But better than Jennings? Never.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Spurger King]

The Official Site is currently running a poll, and Hugo Lloris is ahead of Pat Jennings.
Now, I like Hugo and believe that he is very, very good. But better than Jennings? Never.

What does everyone else think?

I think there's a lot of Spurs fans - including myself - who were either not born or too young to see Jennings play for us. People tend not to have much of an opinion on players they've never watched. I've heard plenty of great things about Jennings, but why would I vote for him based on reputation alone?

 

[Lancaster Spur]

The Official Site is currently running a poll, and Hugo Lloris is ahead of Pat Jennings.
Now, I like Hugo and believe that he is very, very good. But better than Jennings? Never.

What does everyone else think?

It may be an idication that relatively few users of the Official site have ever seen Pat Jennings play. Of the footage I've seen its obvious Pat Jennings was a superb keeper but Hugo is easily the best I've seen play at the Lane.

 

[oohaahedgar]

Clemence was better than Hugo.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

Clemence was better than Hugo.

Clemence was an amazing keeper. Was just thinking this same question over.

 

[UncleBuck]

What a crap pole for the official site to be running, two different eras for starters and two very different types of keeper.
It's like comparing chalk & cheese....

 

[Nine while nine]

What a crap pole for the official site to be running, two different eras for starters and two very different types of keeper.
It's like comparing chalk & cheese....

Agreed.

That noted, the Tottenham OS is running a crap poll on keepers.

You have to go elsewhere in North London to find a crap Pole keeper...

 

[chinaman]

My rating is Jennings, Lloris, Brown and then Clemence.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Both great keepers from very different eras

One player 472 games for us and the other has currently played 83 times

For longevity I'd have to side with Big Pat....

 

[longtimespur]

I can remember all of these at the Lane.
Pat Jennings was the best in my mind and have voted as such (I met him once on a pub relaunch in Wood Green) but he did go to the gooners which I did not like.
As others have said 2 entirely different styles of keeping in different eras.

 

[Greenspur]

I think there's a lot of Spurs fans - including myself - who were either not born or too young to see Jennings play for us. People tend not to have much of an opinion on players they've never watched. I've heard plenty of great things about Jennings, but why would I vote for him based on reputation alone?

This is a valid point. To take it further, however, only those who have seen all the candidates can really judge. And, that narrows the sample size quite a bit.

It's like polls on the best band or recording artist ever. Usually dominated by new young people. No chance for poor old Bobby Dylan.

 

[Spurger King]

This is a valid point. To take it further, however, only those who have seen all the candidates can really judge. And, that narrows the sample size quite a bit.

It's like polls on the best band or recording artist ever. Usually dominated by new young people. No chance for poor old Bobby Dylan.

At the same time I think it's fair to say that the older you get, the more rose-tinted your glasses get when looking back at the music, films, and football players of your younger days. Could also make people more cynical about modern contenders.

You could also say that context plays a big part too. I love Dylan, but I can't imagine too many people voting him as the greatest songwriter who ever lived if a poll was made just after he'd released yet another shocking album in the 80s.

The debate about modern and past football has been done to death, but I do tend to think that the fitness, training, coaching, scouting, and general quality of your average modern footballer makes most teams from previous decades look like pub teams. Yes we get it - the ball was heavier, the pitches were crap, the laws of gravity were harsher back then, and footballers were real footballers because they'd play like thugs. I don't care. I'd wager it was a million times easier to become a professional footballer back then too, making it more than likely that the majority of players in the top flight (in the 60s and 70s at least) would struggle to get in a League One team today.

Then again I think I'm part of a whole generation who are sick to death of seeing footage of incidents such as Gordon Banks making a slightly above average save from Pele's slightly above average header, and being told it's just one Vatican vote short of being declared a miracle.

 

[chinaman]

Jennings was even better than Banks.

 

[Norwegian Spurs fan]

This is a valid point. To take it further, however, only those who have seen all the candidates can really judge. And, that narrows the sample size quite a bit.

It's like polls on the best band or recording artist ever. Usually dominated by new young people. No chance for poor old Bobby Dylan.

Yes, I agree with you on this

 

[Greenspur]

At the same time I think it's fair to say that the older you get, the more rose-tinted your glasses get when looking back at the music, films, and football players of your younger days. Could also make people more cynical about modern contenders.

You could also say that context plays a big part too. I love Dylan, but I can't imagine too many people voting him as the greatest songwriter who ever lived if a poll was made just after he'd released yet another shocking album in the 80s.

The debate about modern and past football has been done to death, but I do tend to think that the fitness, training, coaching, scouting, and general quality of your average modern footballer makes most teams from previous decades look like pub teams. Yes we get it - the ball was heavier, the pitches were crap, the laws of gravity were harsher back then, and footballers were real footballers because they'd play like thugs. I don't care. I'd wager it was a million times easier to become a professional footballer back then too, making it more than likely that the majority of players in the top flight (in the 60s and 70s at least) would struggle to get in a League One team today.

Then again I think I'm part of a whole generation who are sick to death of seeing footage of incidents such as Gordon Banks making a slightly above average save from Pele's slightly above average header, and being told it's just one Vatican vote short of being declared a miracle.

Maybe so, but music didn't get any harder to perform over the years.

Anyway, my point is that if someone hasn't seen Jennings (or Clemence, or ...) play, how can they make a judgement?

 

[Spurger King]

Maybe so, but music didn't get any harder to perform over the years.

Anyway, my point is that if someone hasn't seen Jennings (or Clemence, or ...) play, how can they make a judgement?

Maybe George Clawley (in goal for Spurs in the 1901 cup final) was the greatest keeper that ever lived? Seeing as I doubt anyone is still alive who watched him play, does that mean the question 'Who was Tottenham's best Goalkeeper' is completely meaningless?

 

[Atomic Flea]

I was born 1995. Spurs fan from when I can remember so safe to say Lloris is the best keeper I've seen play for us. Before though, of all the other options I'd have said Friedel was the most solid, until Hugo came along.

 

[Navin R Johnson]

Maybe George Clawley (in goal for Spurs in the 1901 cup final) was the greatest keeper that ever lived? Seeing as I doubt anyone is still alive who watched him play, does that mean the question 'Who was Tottenham's best Goalkeeper' is completely meaningless?

Yes.

People often say that xxx was Spurs'/England's/The World's greatest player but never qualify it with "in my living memory". Polls like that on the site and on message boards are pointless, in fact I'm not even sure why I looked in this thread!

Can I award a Doh! to my own post?

PS Jennings was probably the best in the world in his prime but Banks held the accolade because of the affection we all felt for him as our World Cup winning keeper imo.

 

[h2005]

A totally ridiculous poll. The vast majority of people who wil vote in an online poll will only have seen lloris play. Actually I'd say the majority wouldn't even know what Jennings looks like.

 

[chinaman]

Yes.

People often say that xxx was Spurs'/England's/The World's greatest player but never qualify it with "in my living memory". Polls like that on the site and on message boards are pointless, in fact I'm not even sure why I looked in this thread!

Can I award a Doh! to my own post?

PS Jennings was probably the best in the world in his prime but Banks held the accolade because of the affection we all felt for him as our World Cup winning keeper imo.

Plus the fact that he played behind a far better defence for England.