Berahino suffered 'depression' after failed Spurs transfer

[mawspurs]

Former English Premier League striker Saido Berahino opened up about the devastating aftermath of his failed move to Tottenham several years ago.

Source: IBT

 

[Trix]

Or "spoilt kid doesn't get what he wants and sulks".

 

[dontcallme]

Or "spoilt kid doesn't get what he wants and sulks".

Good to see people are being open-minded and sensitive towards mental health.

If you read the article he talks about how he struggled with his quick rise and change in life. He also speaks about how he struggled to talk to his family as they had no experience of these problems either.

 

[Trix]

Good to see people are being open-minded and sensitive towards mental health.

If you read the article he talks about how he struggled with his quick rise and change in life. He also speaks about how he struggled to talk to his family as they had no experience of these problems either.

I read the article, I also know(for a fact because I know someone in his camp) how he was acting at the time and why we didn't increase our bid.



He may well of

 

[newbie]

ive not read the article but i think killed his career, and you have to feel for him, lets be honest at his age a lot of us were dicks and made mistakes, just no one found out about our mistakes, we were not vilified and hated by thousands of people for our mistakes, being so young in the limelight must be hard, who prepares you for this? i know clubs do but its still must be brutal, footballers live a very sheltered bubble of a lifestyle, yes they have a lot of money but they are still human and very young!

fame at a young age ruins a lot of young people in other industry's, personally, i would not want the pressure and attention.

 

[dontcallme]

I read the article, I also know(for a fact because I know someone in his camp) how he was acting at the time and why we didn't increase our bid.



He may well of

You're using your ITK to justify a lack of empathy towards towards someone mentally struggling, real nice.

 

[newbie]

I read the article, I also know(for a fact because I know someone in his camp) how he was acting at the time and why we didn't increase our bid.



He may well of

we are not disbuting he was not an arsehole, he was very young and poorly advised, and has suffered becuase of it. we all do stupid things and are petulant when we are young!

if spurs had not bid that year it could have been very different and that is not spurs fault!

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

I read the article, I also know(for a fact because I know someone in his camp) how he was acting at the time and why we didn't increase our bid.



He may well of

He may have acted badly. But spoilt kid is a bit harsh. We're not talking about crying because he didn't get a new playstation. He had a life changing opportunity in front of him.

 

[Shadydan]

You're using your ITK to justify a lack of empathy towards towards someone mentally struggling, real nice.

I don't trust this guy as an ITK because it's clear he has an agenda.

 

[Trix]

You're using your ITK to justify a lack of empathy towards towards someone mentally struggling, real nice.

To say he had no one around to advise him just wasn't true. When you are given professional advice, choose to completely ignore it and instead throw your toys out the pram because "he knew best" there is no one to blame but yourself. He acted like a total dick throughout, despite both Pulis and his agent trying to help him. He acted like he was Lionel f-ing messi being held against his will.

I see he at no point does he take any responsibility for what happened.

I don't want to make light of Mental health issues because I'm very aware it is very serious.

I also however think that sometimes some people just behave like dicks.

 

[dontcallme]

To say he had no one around to advise him just wasn't true. When you are given professional advice, choose to completely ignore it and instead throw your toys out the pram because "he knew best" there is no one to blame but yourself. He acted like a total dick throughout, despite both Pulis and his agent trying to help him. He acted like he was Lionel f-ing messi being held against his will.

I see he at no point does he take any responsibility for what happened.

I don't want to make light of Mental health issues because I'm very aware it is very serious.

I also however think that sometimes some people just behave like dicks.

Sometimes people act like dicks when they are unhappy or struggling with something. My point about his family is they are the people that many go to when struggling but as they had no experience of what he was going through he couldn't talk to them.

His manager and agent can always have their own agenda and there's nothing to suggest he could trust them with his feelings completely.

I find your opinions really callous and if he saw this as a missed opportunity that he struggled to deal with then he deserves a level of understanding whether he is Lionel fucking Messi or not.

 

[Trix]

I don't trust this guy as an ITK because it's clear he has an agenda.

I'm a Spurs fan not a fucking bbc reporter! I'm allowed to have opinions, it's just that I sometimes I have more knowledge about what has actually happened than most.

I've been posting ITK for the best part of 10 years on and off, and a lot more behind the scenes through the Gnomes and the goat.

It's comments like this though that are the reason I'm done with it all.

I'm as of now officially out!

 

[Shadydan]

I'm a Spurs fan not a fucking bbc reporter! I'm allowed to have opinions, it's just that I sometimes I have more knowledge about what has actually happened than most.

I've been posting ITK for the best part of 10 years on and off, and a lot more behind the scenes through the Gnomes and the goat.

It's comments like this though that are the reason I'm done with it all.

I'm as of now officially out!

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[King of Otters]

Thanks Dan!

 

[sausage]

To say he had no one around to advise him just wasn't true. When you are given professional advice, choose to completely ignore it and instead throw your toys out the pram because "he knew best" there is no one to blame but yourself. He acted like a total dick throughout, despite both Pulis and his agent trying to help him. He acted like he was Lionel f-ing messi being held against his will.

I see he at no point does he take any responsibility for what happened.

I don't want to make light of Mental health issues because I'm very aware it is very serious.

I also however think that sometimes some people just behave like dicks.

As someone who has struggled with mental health (depression and, with age, anxiety) I think it's quite dangerous to make 'being a dick' and 'having depression' mutually exclusive (in fact, its is unhelpful).

Sometimes depression is the result of environmental factors, and sometimes it is the result of self-awareness (whether over-sensitive or not). You can be depressed because you feel like life is against you, but you might feel that way because you have an unrealistic paradigm of how your life should work.

So I completely agree with what you're saying from a personal point of view. I often introspect about how depression affects me. Some times I think there's a very thin line between what people observe as "sulking" and having a depressive episode - with somewhat clinical depression (not just circumstantial) you can have triggers that will really set you back.

Sometimes there are aspects of our personalities that we cannot really control because they are nuances of what makes us us. I can be stubborn and know how to stand up for myself, which is both crucial to not being dragged down by depression, but it is also, often, the cause behind a depressive episode. So, it's completely possible for someone to suffer from depression because of their personality - e.g. being argumentative and then being depressed because you've fallen out with someone and feel like everyone hates you kind of thing. For example, you might have a depressive episode because of something you've done or said, or how you've behaved.

We know that Berahino has had a lot of history with bad choices and such - it's perfectly possible that he was depressed because of the series of events that resulted from his decisions or actions.

 

[Amo]

To say he had no one around to advise him just wasn't true. When you are given professional advice, choose to completely ignore it and instead throw your toys out the pram because "he knew best" there is no one to blame but yourself. He acted like a total dick throughout, despite both Pulis and his agent trying to help him. He acted like he was Lionel f-ing messi being held against his will.

I see he at no point does he take any responsibility for what happened.

I don't want to make light of Mental health issues because I'm very aware it is very serious.

I also however think that sometimes some people just behave like dicks.

Depression often causes people to act like dicks. That doesn't excuse it. He is still responsible for his actions and I believe he has admitted so of late.

But not excusing it doesn't mean we can't understand it.

 

[Amo]

I don't trust this guy as an ITK because it's clear he has an agenda.

An agenda against Berahino? Or against depressed people?

I don't agree with @Trix 's dismissal of Berahino' s mental health problems or the use of first hand knowledge to rationalise that dismissal.

But "having an agenda" is a bit much; it's disproportionate to Trix's long history of posting on here and the actual topic at hand.

 

[Shadydan]

An agenda against Berahino? Or against depressed people?

I don't agree with @Trix 's dismissal of Berahino' s mental health problems or the use of first hand knowledge to rationalise that dismissal.

But "having an agenda" is a bit much; it's disproportionate to Trix's long history of posting on here and the actual topic at hand.

I've pm'd him with an apology.

 

[jay2040]

ITK or not free speech within guidelines is allowed on here

 

[dontcallme]

ITK or not free speech within guidelines is allowed on here

I don’t think anyone is saying others aren’t entitled to an opinion. Merely that we are disagreeing with each other, for once.