Alan Sugar

[C0YS]

Was he really that bad or was he just doing what he thought was best for the club trying not to get his feelings for love of spurs get in the way.

He did save us from bankrupsy. Does he realy deserve all the stick he gets from us fans!?

Im not defending him I am just giving out food for thought

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[General Levy]

The guy saved the club. But what he did with it was ridiculous. From hiring managers, to stadium development.

He basically lacked foresight, which I find kinda strange because he is a pioneer businessman.

 

[guiltyparty]

Without him, ENIC and Levy wouldn't have had the solid business foundation on which to build, so I would say he deserves no stick whatsoever. Yes, we were a bit crap while he was chairman, but he was never really a football man, he was all about the balance sheet. And lest forget how much we were in the shit at one point…

 

[Kyras]

I think that we're indebted to Sugar, because, without him, there might have been no Tottenham Hotspur, we may have been average, but we weren't shit, if we were shit we'd have been in Div1, or even Div2 and therefore we can't complain, he kept us in the prem whilst trying to rebuild the club from within.

Lack of foresight? I feel that's a little harsh, because look at us now, we have every chance of breaking into the top four, that didn't happen overnight, or not even since ENIC took over.

 

[Defsta]

Well even we didn't really progress when he was chairman, but he still saved the club :think:

 

[guiltyparty]

We may have been average, but we weren't shit, if we were shit we'd have been in Div1, or even Div2 and therefore we can't complain

This argument is creeping in again and again. Come on, everything is context - when people say 'shit' they don't mean Vauxhall Conference shit, they mean 'shit for Spurs'. Let's use some common sense.

 

[Adam456]

We could be Leeds or gone without him. On the other hand Abramovich might have bought us instead of Chelsea if we were in such a bad state :wink:

I did like what he said about the fees and salaries that Leeds were paying in the time. That's a real example of foresight rather than hindsight...

 

[orkneyspur]

How far back shall we go ffs, I think the Richardson's did the club no good in the 60's when we could have become the biggest club in the world. :roll:

 

[drjimmy]

He did just what it said on the tin!

He underwrote the debts that idiot Scholar & his cronies had heaped on us; dealt with the Venables fall-out and enabled us to trade our way through a very difficult time and he also did something alien to him (at that time, anyway) and put his head above the parapet!

Ok, so he didn't really know what he had let himself in for, and I expect that was one hell of a shock when the realisation hit home, but I reckon without him, we wouldn't have won the Carling Cup, last month.....

 

[DC_Boy]

Also we won the lge cup and FA Cup while he was in charge (I think from memory he was in charge during both victories) - got us back into Europe etc - he did a lot of good for the club - it wasn't our greatest era - but it wasn't our worst - we probably finished on average in the lge pretty much the same as our historical average at the club

remember for many years pre-war we were a 2nd div club - the 60s in many ways were a golden aberration for Spurs - the two trophies in the 90s with the occasional good lge finish and some wonderful players and exciting games are far more typical of our 125 year history

 

[drjimmy]

the 60s in many ways were a golden aberration for Spurs - the two trophies in the 90s with the occasional good lge finish and some wonderful players and exciting games are far more typical of our 125 year history

That's THFC in a nut-shell! :clap:

 

[Chris12345]

Slightly off topic, but did anyone watching the West Ham game last weekend here the commentator say

"And for those of you wondering who that is, it's former Spurs chairman Alan Sugar" (or words to that effect) as the camera panned onto a man with a crazy bleached double mohawk :lol:

 

[paxtonyiddo]

I hate the guy after a few choice words after brief meetings outside the ground after shit displays in the mid 90's.

HOWEVER he did do a great job for us financially and battled hard to get us back in the FA Cup in 95 and get our 12 point reduction dropped. Like has been said he knew diddly-squat about football but he laid the financial foundations for Senor Levy to grow on.

 

[Stamford_Hill_Yid]

I don't believe there would be a Tottenham Hotspur today (or a least we'd have gone through what Leeds have gone through since being relegated) if it wasn't for AS so no, I don't think he's bad.

But it's also worth pointing out that he's the one responsible for us have DC at the club so for that he should be shot! :wink:

 

[DC_Boy]

That's THFC in a nut-shell! :clap:

DrJ

 

[SpurSince57]

He had execrable taste in managers, but always made funds available for new signings (the fact that much of the money was spent on complete bozos was hardly his fault). He also managed to royally piss off the council and the local community, and the club has had to work very hard since to rebuild bridges.

On the plus side, if his 'If it wasn't for me there would be a Tesco's where the Lane is' was possibly an exaggeration, it wasn't much of one, and maybe wasn't one at all. The alternatives to Sugar were bankruptcy or Maxwell; I'm not sure which would have been worse. Winning the Cup in '91 didn't just add to the trophy count, it allowed us to survive a crucial few months—things were so desperate Venables fiddled 'celeb supporter' Phil Collins a box at Wembley in the hope that he'd put a couple of million our way (he didn't, the tosser).

Somehow, he got us out of a debt that may have been as high as £40m and turned us into a going concern. No, he didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart, he had an eye to the main chance and a good return on his investment, as he's had all his life, but he did it.

 

[Krafty]

He was probably the best man for the job at the time. We were in a terrible position in terms of being a business, and perhaps needed some 'tough love'. How many teams make a profit these days? Especially consider how much money we spend on transfers and retain for the new training ground and stadium.

He did have many faults, and he certainly upset a fair few people. But I think he was doing his best for the club, probably more on the business side.

Look at how bad Scholar did. While Sugar isnt a legend, he should get respect. You cant blame him because he wasnt the best in terms of football decisions (but remember he was the one who signed Klinsmann!!). His business acumen is second to a very very few people (and we might be lucky enough in Levy to have one of those people)

 

[justfookinhitit]

The guy saved the club. But what he did with it was ridiculous. From hiring managers, to stadium development.

He basically lacked foresight, which I find kinda strange because he is a pioneer businessman.

Errr, we are talking about the guy that had the PC market there for the taking and fucked it up royally, so good businessman though he is, he does have a track record of not executing on the opportunities he has before him.

Agreed he saved the club and I'll always be grateful, but that was step 1 and he didn't progress to steps 2, 3, 4 etc etc.

 

[chris]

He hired George Graham. Need I say more?

 

[Gilzeanking]

He hanged himself when he did his 'Carlos kickaball' rant about not wanting foreigners at the club...

....Exactly at the moment the Prem was realising the enormous potential of foreign skills . It was completely the wrong direction and a decision based largely on the trauma of Ossie's then recent managerial period . We became unsucessful AND very unSpurs in our football ,a very painful time .

Maybe a lack of experience in the football world didn't help Sugar . His abrasive style lost him support too .