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Dazzazzad

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Couldn't we just, I dunno, offer more? Barca offering 7+3, we offer 10+5. Surely the club would have to accept our offer unless barca matches.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Couldn't we just, I dunno, offer more? Barca offering 7+3, we offer 10+5. Surely the club would have to accept our offer unless barca matches.

Expressen article posted here earlier says the fee including bonuses has now gone up to £16.7m.

Says it's down to the player, but I'm also not sure how Barca can get it though without a big sale.

La Liga have rebuffed their spending thus far, but we will see.


Djurgården's midfielder Lucas Bergvall has been chased by around 30 top clubs during the winter.
According to information to Expressen, Bergvall will choose between Barcelona and Tottenham within a few days.
The super talent will sign a five-year contract and the value of the transfer fee with bonuses can reach 220 million kroner.

Lucas Bergvall was brought up in the talent factory IF Brommapojkarna. He made his debut in the super one for BP in the 2022 season and played eleven matches.
Before last season, the midfielder, who turns 18 on Friday, was signed to Djurgården.
The technical midfielder played 25 Allsvenskan matches and was successful. For several months, he has been chased by around 30 professional clubs.
English Arsenal, German Dortmund, Bayern Munich and Italian Inter are some of the giants in the long line that have attracted a professional contract.
According to information to Expressen, Bergvall has decided what his future will look like.
The choice is between the Spanish Barcelona and the English Tottenham.
Bergvall was not there when Djurgården played a training match against Västerås SK last Saturday. The midfielder was earlier this week in London and is currently in Barcelona.
- It has been written that Lucas Bergvall should already be ready for Barcelona. It is completely wrong, says a source to Expressen.
- It might as well be that he plays in Tottenham. It stands and weighs right now.
Tottenham already has former national team player Dejan Kulusevski, 23, who just like Bergvall received his football training in IF Brommapojkarna.
Lucas Bergvall will sign the contract within a few days.

It is a five-year contract. The entire package of bonuses means that the transfer fee can reach as much as SEK 220 million, a higher amount than Expressen has previously reported. Part of the transfer fee will also go to Bergvall's parent club Brommapojkarna.
In the summer of 2001, striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic became both Allsvenskan and Sweden's most expensive footballer ever when he went from Malmö FF to Dutch Ajax.
The price tag stayed at SEK 82.5 million.
This summer, Malmö FF's midfielder Hugo Larsson became the most expensive player ever in the Allsvenskan. The transfer to the German club Eintracht Frankfurt was, according to information, 132 million kroner with bonuses.
Regardless of whether Lucas Bergvall chooses to play in La Liga with Barcelona or the Premier League with Tottenham, the midfielder will by far become the most expensive player to leave the Allsvenskan ever.
 

knilly

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Reading Fabrizios tweet it said could be finalised next week. Further highlights that Barca have no money this window and they’ll make an agreement for the summer
 

only1waddle

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Reading Fabrizios tweet it said could be finalised next week. Further highlights that Barca have no money this window and they’ll make an agreement for the summer

A journalist on the Totally Football Show said if they sack Xavi now they only have 2.7m (i assume euro) to spend on a new coach and backroom staff.
Hope they miss out on CL football.
 
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Misfit

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Up to the player then. Not holding my breath but you never know.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Reading Fabrizios tweet it said could be finalised next week. Further highlights that Barca have no money this window and they’ll make an agreement for the summer

And hope they can pull a rabbit out of the hat in the summer that allows him to be registered?

With no idea who the coach is, the system, or if he even rates him?

Sounds a bit sketchy doesn't it?

If he really has his heart set on Barca, he's better off staying put until the next window, then see if they can register him before he signs.

No need to take the risk from his perspective.
 

Hazelton

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Even if he joined us, you know if Barcelona ever came knocking again his head would get turned.

Ah well, Bergvall that ends vall.
 

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brendanb50

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We must not think much of donley and Devine if we are trying to bring this kid in?
Don’t think that’s the case at all. I see it pretty much as Ange tells it - we should always be looking for opportunities to improve.

That from my pov means for now or a couple of years down the road. So signing either first team talent or talent we expect to develop, in all possible areas, seems to be the MO if we can afford to do it.
 

McFlash

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This kid is versatile and talented enough to play any of the three CM positions in our system tbh.
By all accounts, him, Donley, Devine and Sarr would be a very tidy and versatile quartet to have waiting in the wings (although granted, Sarr is not really "in the wings", I only include him because of his young age).

Sounds like good continuity and squad planning to me.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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We must not think much of donley and Devine if we are trying to bring this kid in?

Different skill sets.

Bergvall is an 8 right now, but long term I think he'll be a play making 6.

Donley will be a 10. Possibly even a 9.

Devine will probably start as a 10 and become an 8 as he matures.

I find it interesting that our interest only came out immediately after Wharton chose Palace. Seems that's the profile.

We've also got to look at the fact that Bissouma, Bentancur, and Madders are all 27.

We can't have them all age out at the same time or we'd fall off a cliff like Liverpool last season and it's a £200m CM rebuild.

Ideally you want a youngster to displace one of them in the XI over the next 2-3 years, sell the older player, and the rest of the youngsters to provide depth / competition and longer term replacements.
 
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Wig

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We must not think much of donley and Devine if we are trying to bring this kid in?
The chances of any academy player making the transition to regular first-team player are always small, so we should never stop trying to scout the brightest youth talents out there. If Donley and Devine are better then they will need to compete to prove it.
 

Booney

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Sensible lad. Sounds like he’s using Barca as a stepping-stone onto us.

Just because that strategy didn’t work out for Clement Lenglet doesn’t mean it won’t for him.
 

Cochise

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Different skill sets.

Bergvall is an 8 right now, but long term I think he'll be a play making 6.

Donley will be a 10. Possibly even a 9.

Devine will probably start as a 10 and become an 8 as he matures.

I find it interesting that our interest only came out immediately after Wharton chose Palace. Seems that's the profile.

We've also got to look at the fact that Bissouma, Bentancur, and Madders are all 27.

We can't have them all age out at the same time or we'd fall off a cliff like Liverpool last season and it's a £200m CM rebuild.

Ideally you want a youngster to displace one of them in the XI over the next 2-3 years, sell the older player, and the rest of the youngsters to provide depth / competition and longer term replacements.
What about Tyrese Hall? I've been reading a lot of positive things about him recently in the youth section.
 

McFlash

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What about Tyrese Hall? I've been reading a lot of positive things about him recently in the youth section.
That's true, he has (apparently) been playing well but you can't really have too many options because there's always a chance that they won't all make it.
Getting them young means that we can actually still get some money for them if they don't reach the required heights.

Let's face it, if we include Hall with the others, that gives us 5 very decent options going forward which may end up saving us a fortune in the next few years.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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What about Tyrese Hall? I've been reading a lot of positive things about him recently in the youth section.

Hall is a great prospect but no telling yet what level he will reach.

Bergvall has just broken into the Swedish national team. His technical ability is elite and is more physically and tactically mature right now than Devine or Donley imo.

Not all 17/18 year old prospects develop at the same rate or fulfil all their potential.

Then you have injuries.

Reyna was expected to be a world beater as a 17 year old at Dortmund. 3 years of injuries and he's on loan at Forrest.

Having Moore, Donley, Devine, Hall, and Bergvall would mean you've got every skill set of CM between 16 and 19.

Over the next few years some will develop on loan. Whilst others replace squad players like GLC, Hojbjerg, Skipp, and immediately compete for minutes earlier.

What you don't want is to give prospects the Walker-Peters treatment, when they should be out on loan developing and closing the gap in quality with the starting XI.
 
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