Conor Gallagher
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Flobadob
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Let’s be fair here, if Havertz gets his performances for Chelsea written off and a new opportunity to show what he can really do, with people referring back to his Leverkusen days as a measure of his potential then you should do the same for Gallagher. Chelsea are a bloody shambles and I’ll judge him on his performances for Palace in which he was actually pretty phenomenal. He was at least alright at almost everything worked his socks off and scored goals. Depends on the price but I think he’d surprise a few at how well he would suit the Ange style. Something around 30m or just over would probably be fair if you’re judging him from when he was playing in a well organised side getting regular minutes
cookiemonster
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Stop reading at ambarat
Chris Flynn
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...unless you dont like the player
felmani26
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That's fair and of course appreciate the notion that this is indeed a forum to discuss/debate the merits.
It's more the responses of "he's shit" or "not our level" with no nuance that grates.
Entirely agree with this. Imagine judging Kulusevski or Romero by some of their performances last season.
wiggo24
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Think this is overly simplistic as well, though. Just because a manager wants a player doesn't actually mean you should sign them - the best clubs have an integrated dialogue between scouts/data analysis teams and coaches when it comes to identifying targets. We shouldn't sign players the scouts love and the manager hates, but we also don't need to sign players who only the manager wants.
Even if Ange likes Gallagher, there are likely a host of other players who our scouts (and the majority of us) will view as much better signings. If Ange is happy with one of those then go for that rather than blindly following a manager.
Liverpool, for instance, rely heavily on data etc to sign players and it worked to great success. In the last few years they've given a lot more power to Klopp post-Edwards leaving and for the most part their signings have got a lot worse. You could even say the same for us in the last couple of years of Pochettino.
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TheChosenOne
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Gallagher looked real good at West Brom. but was standout in a team that got relegated
littlewilly
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Yes but this was the view we heard and read about Conte a million times on here. Let's not let it stifle the debate or our views.
Ghost Hardware
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Personally I think Veiga is tailor made for a 8 in Ange's system as well as having incredible potential. He would be an excellent addition if we could pull it off. Of course there is a lot of competition but still, he'd make a lot of sense IMO. But obviously if HG is the thing then Scott is well covered name. I know he's still potential rather then the complete package but that is exactly what Gallagher is at this point also who is older and doesn't have the same raw ability, really we would be buying him in hope that he would be able to find his Palace form. Aside from that even at Palace I don't think he was particularly remarkable. He deosn't seem to excel at anything, just seems a decent all round player. Anyway, i'd still be surprised if Chelsea agreed to deal with us for a reasonable fee.
Chris Flynn
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You have no idea what our scouts views on players are mate. Or what their brief is for a player in this position. Could be 'home grown, prem experience, young, available, high energy central mid'
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Don’t think anyone has said he’s going to be the next Xavi but he’s more likely the next Maddison/Grealish talent tearing it up in the Championship and so better to try and get him now rather than miss out and then if we want him in a few years time it’ll be for triple the price.
We used to work really well buying young British talent from the championship etc, Walker, Dawson, Lennon, Carrick, Defoe etc etc.
No need for people to ‘get over’ Alex Scott, a lot are just excited that he looks like a very good young talent well worth a gamble, sometimes you just get a feeling about a player like Grealish, Maddison etc that they have quality and are pretty likely to succeed and Scott is one of those.
That being said there will be a lot of competition for his signature and he’s more of a 10 so not sure we need that right now, but he or Gallagher would both be good signings in different ways.
kd2000
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I actually don't dislike him, think he is a more than decent player. I just don't want us to buy him.
With a very decent midfield once Bentancur is fit, and decent sub options such as Sarr, Skipp, Devine and maybe even Tanguy, do we need him?
This season we only have the prem and domestic cups so there isn't too much need to rotate players to keep them fresh.
He isn't better than Bissouma, Bentancur or Maddison and in my opinion we should either look for players to put pressure on them 3, or younger players who we can develop, such as Scott
With a very decent midfield once Bentancur is fit, and decent sub options such as Sarr, Skipp, Devine and maybe even Tanguy, do we need him?
This season we only have the prem and domestic cups so there isn't too much need to rotate players to keep them fresh.
He isn't better than Bissouma, Bentancur or Maddison and in my opinion we should either look for players to put pressure on them 3, or younger players who we can develop, such as Scott
Mr Pink
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Debate for sure, but our views are irrelevant anyway.....thank God lol
wiggo24
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Fair enough, although you're left with not very many players of any real quality in that list at all, if any. Would also argue that if that's the brief and we're really desperate for a HG player then I'm not really sure why we've signed Solomon as our 5th choice forward.
I was more arguing in general that you don't have to sign a player simply because the manager might rate them. If you do, what's the point having the scouting team at all?
He plays a lot deeper for the England U-19s from what Iv seen. He could easily adapt.
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I'll admit to not having paid that much attention to the lad before but when he has caught my attention, it's been for the right reasons.
Seems an energetic and not unskillful player who can create problems and open spaces.
Wouldn't be against giving him a chance if the price is right.
Seems an energetic and not unskillful player who can create problems and open spaces.
Wouldn't be against giving him a chance if the price is right.
This is true; I think it's clear that most fans don't always know what's best, partly because most fans only have a fraction of the information needed to make an informed choice. For example, most fans were very delighted with the Ndombele signing.
That period was one of my favourite times to be a Spurs fan. I think signing young, exciting British/Irish talent strengthens the connection between the team and the fans. To an extent Gallagher but definitely Scott would signal a return to that model.
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