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Never a truer word spoken. The experience is invaluable and necessary. Salient point, my friend.
Except that it's learning curve not curb, but that would just be being picky
Never a truer word spoken. The experience is invaluable and necessary. Salient point, my friend.
Except that it's learning curve not curb, but that would just be being picky
We needed two goals to win. If they'd scored, we'd still have needed two goals to win. How's that game over?
Ramos put out a team to keep us in the tie for as long as possible, and in doing so put the result above the football. This isn't a major criticism. I can understand why he would do that. Get the result right first and worry about the football later. Problem is, when you do that and then don't get the result, no matter how close you come you're hoist by your own petard.
Sad to say, Ramos got this one wrong. And I'd have been prouder if we'd gone out in a blaze of glory and goals.
The goal we scored was just down to the brilliance of Berba, we didn't really look like we were going to get a goal.
The team performance was poor and we were lucky not to lose the tie ages ago.
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*crosses out Proof-Reading Skills from CV*
Ha, I'm a sub, so couldn't help myself
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I definitely give credit to PSV and the way they defended. I just feel that we had to many players who didn't perform to the best of their ability over the two games. If we performed the best we could and got beat. I'd feel a lot less frustrated about it.You can't find a comparison?
Well, that's not surprising. The Scum didn't sit back and defend over two legs. It's not their way. Even Chelsea didn't. They threw the works at us in the end.
Sorry, Mullers, you have to give credit where credit's due and PSV defended superbly. The Eredivisie's answer to David James pulled off a couple of great saves from Bent and Malbranque, but got away with some dodgy stuff that Robbo would get slaughtered for.
We did our best, it wasn't quite good enough, we'll learn and move on. Let's draw a line and look forward to filling our boots against City on Sunday.
I am thankful and pleased that we won the Carling cup and qualified for Europe. I don't think we can take it for granted that we qualify for Europe next season let alone break into the top 4. So my feet are grounded as far as expectation levels are concerned I feel.Oh ffs Mullers! You know your problem mate, it's you don't have any perspective. you say we played poorly over two legs, I say we played exceptionally well against a team who's game-plan was to frustrate, absorb and counter.
Maybe it's hard to see because it's tottenham we're talking about and we're, well, fantastic... The best... we have a clear moral superiority over every other team in the world and on our day we're better than Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man Utd all rolled into one... but let's pretend it was two other teams.
Imagine it was West Brom playing a top Premier League side. Now if you were a West Brom fan you might bemoan the fact that your team didn't play with the fluency and cutting edge your used to seeing week in week out in the Championship, you'd say your side played poorly and would have wiped the floor if they'd played their usual way. Everyone else would say, mate, that's the difference between playing Championship sides every week and the Premier League.
Back to us. We out-played the runaway league leaders in Holland in their own back-yard. We beat them 1-0. We lost 1-0 at home against an extremely well-drilled side who knew what to expect from us and had a plan to counter it. That they got lucky with the mistake from Gilberto only highlights their quality. We made a couple of mistakes and got punished for one, I don't think I remember a single mistake from them, the hall-mark of a team which wins titles.
Hanibal (the Cartegenian not the psychopath) was one of the greatest generals to have lived, one of his famous victories involved playing up to his opponents expectations before revealing something quite different at the last minute.
I admit I missed your post (though in my defence I'll say I wrote what I wrote today in three short bursts in-between trying to look like I was working), but having read it now I can say it's a good one all though I'm not sure I entirely agree (use your full-backs to mark wingers?? Well it's interesting anyway :-|).Sloth - I think Ramos' excellent gameplan was discussed and explained fully by several posters, including idlepete, earlier in this thread, and the "tactics" thread in Spurs Chat.
LOL, probably. And I suspect you know this already, but i wasn't alluding to Ramos studying the battles of ancient Generals. It was more by way of an analogy (convoluted I admit) to show how knowledge of what your opponent will do and confounding his expectations of what you will do can be beneficial if you have an idea of how to exploit it.Hannibal (2 'n's) has nothing to do with Ramos' decision making. And he was a Carthaginian. Is a Cartegenian some kind of mapmaker? :wink: