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agrdavidsfan

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It's not Perisic's fault that Son has a fucking trampoline touch or insipid work rate.
I've said it a 100x sons positioning dosn't suit him his touch isnf good enough to be at this part of the pitch
 

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Neon_Knight_

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The thing with Son is I think right now he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball Doesn't press, doesn't cut off passing lanes, and certainly isn't interested in contesting 50/50's. So when he's doing fuck all when we've got possession it's pointless having him on the pitch. Whether it's confidence, fatigue or a number of other factors it could be, he doesn't deserve to play right now.
Son this season has been very much like Ozil during his last couple of years in the PL.
 

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Enrique is in talks with Chelsea



The former coach maintains contacts with the English club to occupy the bench after the dismissal of Graham Potter. Iván de la Peña is leading the operation.​

https://as.com/autor/manuel-sainz/
Chelsea sacked Graham Potter on Sunday. From Germany they point out that the former Bayern coach Jurgen Nagelsmann is the favorite to occupy the bench of the English club. However, the German coach's problems in arranging the settlement with the Bavarian club have caused Chelsea, Real Madrid's rival in the Champions League quarterfinals, to consider other options. As AS has been able to learn, Luis Enrique is among that shortlist of candidates to lead the 'blue' team. For days, the name of the former Spanish coach has been on the table of sports director Christopher Vivell.

Iván de la Peña, Luis Enrique's assistant at Roma and agent for Gavi or Eric García, among others, is the one who is negotiating with Chelsea on behalf of the Asturian coach. The hypothetical arrival of Luis Enrique at the English club would fill Real Madrid-Chelsea on April 12 with morbidity.
Luis Enrique, who was a Madrid player for five seasons, has repeatedly stated that his time in white does not bring back good memories. In fact, he has always declared himself a culé after having been at Barcelona eight seasons as a player and three more as a coach. “For a Barça player it is always gratifying to feel whistled at the Santiago Bernabéu”, he blurted out before facing Real Madrid for the first time. At the Santiago Bernabéu, the hypothetical visit of Luis Enrique in charge of Chelsea would be seen as one more incentive and extra motivation.

Chelsea, however, is not the only Englishman who has noticed Luis Enrique. He has also been linked to Tottenham after the dismissal of Antonio Conte. The London club is still looking for a coach, and Italian Cristian Stellini is taking over in the meantime . The other club with which Luis Enrique has been linked is Manchester City, although in this case it would be to replace Guardiola if he did not continue next season.

As long as Chelsea does not defoliate the daisy of its next coach, the bench will be occupied on an interim basis by Bruno Saltor. The Spaniard is the third coach to sit on the bench at Stamford Bridge after Tuchel and Potter. If Luis Enrique finally arrives, the Asturian would be the fourth in a succession of coaches unprecedented in the club's history.
 
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hamsup_sotong

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Son doesnt run in behind anymore he just runs backwards and comes to feet constantly. As trix said he isn't good at winning the ball back so effectively asking him to come to the ball and be in defensive shape constantly is pointless. When was the last time you saw kane on the ball with Son bombing in behind? that created chaos for everyone but it just doesnt happen now. Take the shackles off him and get him on the shoulder of the last defender and you will see the old Son.
he was making runs.. hobby and skip turned and went backwards multiple times instead.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Worth mentioning that De Zerbi will reportedly decline any interviews with Chelsea. Doesn't state if that means now, or in the summer...

 

Jamturk

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Son doesnt run in behind anymore he just runs backwards and comes to feet constantly. As trix said he isn't good at winning the ball back so effectively asking him to come to the ball and be in defensive shape constantly is pointless. When was the last time you saw kane on the ball with Son bombing in behind? that created chaos for everyone but it just doesnt happen now. Take the shackles off him and get him on the shoulder of the last defender and you will see the old Son.

Again this is a system failure!!

They have to support the 2 man midfield.

Nulifying one of our greatest threats, good work Conte (y)
 

samspurs92

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After last night I’ve just had enough.

More than ever, I want Poch back.

Yes, he’s not perfect or blameless for how it ended last time but I just want someone that you know is in it for the long haul and will be trying to rebuild the club in the right way.

I’ve had enough of established players not being held accountable by the club and we need to start investing in the players that have the right character and mentality.

We should have backed in the first place and let him get rid of all the deadwood. Rejecting that massive offer for Dier from United just looks more and more stupid by the game.
 

snakehipsspurs

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Miguel Delaney reporting that Poch is keen to talk to Chelsea. Fuck that!

“Pochettino previously held talks with Chelsea when Tuchel was sacked, and is understood to be open to the role despite his Tottenham Hotspur history.”

 

Guntz

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I could completely see Enrique at Chelsea. I’m just not sure they pick him over JN.

Apparently Chelsea have some concerns over his age and how he fell out with people at Bayern.

But agreed, I think in the end they probably go for him considering they've already got some of the Leipzig model at the club.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Apparently Chelsea have some concerns over his age and how he fell out with people at Bayern.

But agreed, I think in the end they probably go for him considering they've already got some of the Leipzig model at the club.
That’s the thing, I think there are understandable concerns for a team like Chelsea considering the money and expectation and with any other DoF I would say it was a very bad fit. But having Vivell would help a lot as straight away JN would have someone backstage who knows him and the way he works.
 

rossdapep

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I thought Carragher made a good point yesterday.

Said that it is the coach that changes the culture.

He gave Klopp and Arteta as examples and stated that before them both their boards had performed very poorly.

Arsenal fans were nearly rioting at one point.

Part of the reason we are where we are is because of the management decisions Levy keeps making.

Liverpool and Arsenal has both been poor in the market prior to Klopp and Arteta arriving.

Suddenly they got better at it.

So the right coach could change a lot.

Sure, we would still have a lot of issues and Levy should not br anywhere near it. But a coach can change things
 

chrisd2k

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I accept some of those criticisms of Poch but to just casually ignore the improvement in players under his tenure is criminal.

Jan- Was not even a nailed on starter the season before Poch arrives and playing awfully under Sherwood.

Walker- A player of potential but he could not defend and liable to constant errors.

Rose- Out on loan to Sunderland. Nobody envisioned him ever becoming a first team player

Dembele- Like Jan, was a technically gifted player but was far from being a superstar

Eriksen- No doubt a talent but disappeared too often and was too lightweight pre Poch.

To say he somehow landed on a ludicrously talented squad is demonstrably not true. Of course he was blessed with a generational talent in Kane but the improvement in the side was down to his coaching and the spirit he galvanised within the club. He has his faults but his sacking was a betrayal and travesty which the club had never healed from and I personally feel that whether he succeeds or fails he is owed the chance to carry on the work he should never have been removed from. He was owed a bad season given what he had achieved and Levy chose short-termism.
I'm not sure the point here. Yes he improved players, he's a good coach. Had many tactical flaws too. Both are true and when weighing both up I think the cons outweigh the pros.
 

chrisd2k

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Son doesnt run in behind anymore he just runs backwards and comes to feet constantly. As trix said he isn't good at winning the ball back so effectively asking him to come to the ball and be in defensive shape constantly is pointless. When was the last time you saw kane on the ball with Son bombing in behind? that created chaos for everyone but it just doesnt happen now. Take the shackles off him and get him on the shoulder of the last defender and you will see the old Son.
This system doesn't allow him to. He's playing in CM more than in any area he's actually dangerous in.
 

14/04/91

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I thought Carragher made a good point yesterday.

Said that it is the coach that changes the culture.

He gave Klopp and Arteta as examples and stated that before them both their boards had performed very poorly.

Arsenal fans were nearly rioting at one point.

Part of the reason we are where we are is because of the management decisions Levy keeps making.

Liverpool and Arsenal has both been poor in the market prior to Klopp and Arteta arriving.

Suddenly they got better at it.

So the right coach could change a lot.

Sure, we would still have a lot of issues and Levy should not br anywhere near it. But a coach can change things
A coach alone can't change the culture. We hired 2 highly successful coaches but the meek culture still exists.

Re being poor in the market, it depends how much influence the coach has on incoming transfers. Or if he's over-ruled by a bloke that used to sell suits for a living and knows the square root of fuck all about whether Mane is better than Sissoko.
 

quackers

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I thought Carragher made a good point yesterday.

Said that it is the coach that changes the culture.

He gave Klopp and Arteta as examples and stated that before them both their boards had performed very poorly.

Arsenal fans were nearly rioting at one point.

Part of the reason we are where we are is because of the management decisions Levy keeps making.

Liverpool and Arsenal has both been poor in the market prior to Klopp and Arteta arriving.

Suddenly they got better at it.

So the right coach could change a lot.

Sure, we would still have a lot of issues and Levy should not br anywhere near it. But a coach can change things

actually hes wrong

Michael edwards was behind klopp and Edu has worked hand in glove with Arteta, allowing him to have the autonomy to bin all the dross.

Unfortunately for us we have pragmatic boring football FP in charge - well we did until a week ago.

The coach has to as part of the system.
 
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