Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

isaac94 · Feb 14, 2023

yes conte is a problem, but dont want people thinking a huge part of the squad also isn't a problem, worse thing to happen would be dier, davies etc outlasting another manager, and throwing another one under the bus with their shit performances

Colonel_Klinck · Feb 14, 2023

mil1lion said:
One thing is certain for me. If we have any intention to switch to a high press attacking manager next season we need to do it now really. If that is what we end up doing the change will take a few months to adapt too. Its going to be a big decision to make in the coming weeks especially if results don't improve.

Yep, write the rest of the season off and prepare for next season. Even if we somehow squeak past Milan we will crash out if we meet a half decent team in the next round. Will take a miracle for this team to make top 4 or Newcastle to collapse.

Colonel_Klinck · Feb 14, 2023

Cel said:
We're not exactly flying anyway tbh.

Oh I'd be happy writing the season off if we had a plan. Will Levy though?

13VanDerBale13 · Feb 14, 2023

mil1lion said:
So you think he's just randomly dropping the line "I don't want to talk about my future" into a sentence? He's obviously answering a question. It's the media who keep bringing it up.

The point I’m making is, he doesn’t need to address his love for Italy AGAIN (after a loss)

Could have just left it at “I don’t want to talk about my future” (again)

ReadieSpur · Feb 14, 2023

0-Tibsy-0 said:
Can someone, without mentioning that our defensive players aren’t good enough, point to any evidence of good tangible coaching in regards attacking and being in possession of the ball?

This. I recall many posters talking about his "patterns of play" and how the players would know them inside out, all Conte needed was a pre-season with them. I see zero evidence of "patterns of play".

This "elite" manager has a 3 pronged approach.

1. 3-4-3
2. Get fitness coach to make them fit.
3. Spend a fuck ton of money on the best players.

Only then will his "elite" coaching work. Never mind trying to get the best out of your squad, or making in game changes, or developing players. He can't do any of that.

mil1lion · Feb 14, 2023

13VanDerBale13 said:
The point I’m making is, he doesn’t need to address his love for Italy AGAIN (after a loss)

Could have just left it at “I don’t want to talk about my future” (again)

I responded to

He doesn’t want to talk about his future, yet proceeds to do just that ??‍

I'm not sure him saying how he loved Italy is talking about his future. Seems more like his past but hey

wspur · Feb 14, 2023

isaac94 said:
yes conte is a problem, but dont want people thinking a huge part of the squad also isn't a problem, worse thing to happen would be dier, davies etc outlasting another manager, and throwing another one under the bus with their shit performances

Apart from Dier (only one who started today) , Davies and maybe Sessegnon and Sanchez who is not playing, who really is that "huge part of the squad.... throwing another one under the bus with their shit performances"? This excuse was valid under Mourinho, not anymore

parj · Feb 14, 2023

The club is a mess. We have key people pulling in opposite directions. I actually like our signings, they are positive football signings but they don't suit the direction of the manager.

Levy and his bosses need to work out the direction the club is heading and the philosophy. That needs to be clearly articulated to Fabio to make the football operations reflect that.

If Conte doesn't fit that then we need a manager that already plays the style we want, handles players and transfers the way we want, and not be convinced by them that they will change their style. Managers rarely do.

12 months of negative Poch football, followed by Jose, Nuno and Conte is a waste of fcuking money and wages didn't on players who didn't fit

whitesocks · Feb 14, 2023

Cochise said:
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The way in which we go forward though is really starting to grate. Conte and his automated passing sequences don't work. We are forever playing with our backs to goal, it's awful to watch because we don't have anyone making runs or becoming the free man. We don't seem to identify where the space is and we play the ball so slowly that when space does appear it's usually closed down as the ball inexorably makes its way across the pitch.

I thought we were much better moving the ball from defence this evening. Forster's distribution is superior to Lloris', to give him his due.
In playing forward, I thought skipp and Sarr looked as good as Bentancur and hojbjerg, which as players of last resort (in conte's eyes) is pretty good.
What they dont have is any goal threat at all.

It was good to see the defence press right up to the half way line, but I guess Giroud is no speedster so it was at little risk.

Generally 1-0 can be recovered from and is not the result conte should be sacked for.

isaac94 · Feb 14, 2023

wspur said:
Apart from Dier (only one who started today) , Davies and maybe Sessegnon and Sanchez who is not playing, who really is that "huge part of the squad.... throwing another one under the bus with their shit performances"? This excuse was valid under Mourinho, not anymore

fair point when i think about it, sonny is crying out to be dropped, davies was a stupid sub and dier is dier, stellini certainly got us playing better

Caco · Feb 14, 2023

I'm not sure why I'm even posting in this thread again, but sure here I go for shits and giggles in simple bullets.

Conte is one of the highest paid managers on the planet
Instead of managing, he constantly talks in the media about the lack of resources at his disposal
Players aren't stupid, they know they're said resources
Conte moans about not being able to get best out of constantly publicly criticized resources
Players know he won't be here long term so are likely just as sick of this shite as the rest of us
Conte's contract is up soon, we have the option to re-new, but for the life of me I can't understand why we would.

We all know that ENIC haven't seriously backed any manager, so not sure why we really thought they'd back a manager who had previously turned us down based on initial discussion about investment in the playing squad. I have every faith that if we bought the best player's available in every position for Conte, then he would be able to win the league, but I'm also under no doubt that if we had done the same for Redknapp that he would also have won the league, difference being that it would have been more enjoyable under Harry.

To all the dreamers out there who genuinely believe that if we had a board who where prepared to back this manager, that things would be different, I say one thing, Conte has no interest in developing players and any investment made in any team to deliver the type of success would be short term and is completely unsustainable in this day and age.

ENIC have made some terrible managerial appointments. The complete shot in the dark punts with the likes of Gross, Santini and Nuno. The ill advised Chelsea cast off's in Jose, Villa Boas and now Conte without applying the financial clout, along with the sentimental appointment with Hoddle, but they haven't worked out, not even come close. The only ones that have actually worked out for the fans was Jol, who only got the job by default, Redknapp, who I'm sure many of us believed initially was a short term stop gap after Ramos and lastly Poch, who I don't think anyone really expected anything from. The main take away from these three was they got the fans and they tried to play football that excited, had ENIC seriously backed any of these managers then we would've achieved success. We have an opportunity to get one of them back, at this stage after suffering almost 4 years of Jose and Conte negative shite, I'd take it, we need to enjoy our team again.

Bluto Blutarsky · Feb 14, 2023

parj said:
Levy and his bosses need to work out the direction the club is heading and the philosophy.

Huge red flag for me. Levy should not be making any football decisions - and Levy's "Boss" knows even less about football than he does...

Jody · Feb 14, 2023

Caco said:
I'm not sure why I'm even posting in this thread again, but sure here I go for shits and giggles in simple bullets.

Conte is one of the highest paid managers on the planet

Instead of managing, he constantly talks in the media about the lack of resources at his disposal

Players aren't stupid, they know they're said resources

Conte moans about not being able to get best out of constantly publicly criticized resources

Players know he won't be here long term so are likely just as sick of this shite as the rest of us

Conte's contract is up soon, we have the option to re-new, but for the life of me I can't understand why we would.

We all know that ENIC haven't seriously backed any manager, so not sure why we really thought they'd back a manager who had previously turned us down based on initial discussion about investment in the playing squad. I have every faith that if we bought the best player's available in every position for Conte, then he would be able to win the league, but I'm also under no doubt that if we had done the same for Redknapp that he would also have won the league, difference being that it would have been more enjoyable under Harry.

To all the dreamers out there who genuinely believe that if we had a board who where prepared to back this manager, that things would be different, I say one thing, Conte has no interest in developing players and any investment made in any team to deliver the type of success would be short term and is completely unsustainable in this day and age.

ENIC have made some terrible managerial appointments. The complete shot in the dark punts with the likes of Gross, Santini and Nuno. The ill advised Chelsea cast off's in Jose, Villa Boas and now Conte without applying the financial clout, along with the sentimental appointment with Hoddle, but they haven't worked out, not even come close. The only ones that have actually worked out for the fans was Jol, who only got the job by default, Redknapp, who I'm sure many of us believed initially was a short term stop gap after Ramos and lastly Poch, who I don't think anyone really expected anything from. The main take away from these three was they got the fans and they tried to play football that excited, had ENIC seriously backed any of these managers then we would've achieved success. We have an opportunity to get one of them back, at this stage after suffering almost 4 years of Jose and Conte negative shite, I'd take it, we need to enjoy our team again.

Good post

spursfan77 · Feb 14, 2023

I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many people turn on a manager now on here……not since the last one anyway.

When a guy’s time is up with the fans you just know. I’m not sure it is quite there yet with the team though.

guy · Feb 14, 2023

ReadieSpur said:
This. I recall many posters talking about his "patterns of play" and how the players would know them inside out, all Conte needed was a pre-season with them. I see zero evidence of "patterns of play".

This "elite" manager has a 3 pronged approach.

1. 3-4-3
2. Get fitness coach to make them fit.
3. Spend a fuck ton of money on the best players.

Only then will his "elite" coaching work. Never mind trying to get the best out of your squad, or making in game changes, or developing players. He can't do any of that.

Yep 100%, his "patterns of play" are dull as fuck and completely ineffective. He's got players in and nothing has changed, yet he still persists.

I'm leaning on the side of sack him now at the moment, surely we're better off starting the rebuild now than waiting till season's end?

chrissivad · Feb 14, 2023

whitesocks said:
In playing forward, I thought skipp and Sarr looked as good as Bentancur and hojbjerg, which as players of last resort (in conte's eyes) is pretty good.
What they dont have is any goal threat at all.

I thought they were better as both could turn and bring the ball forward or pass the ball out wide.

I don't remember them passing back to the defence as much as we have been when Hojbjerg plays.

thebenjamin · Feb 14, 2023

spursfan77 said:
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many people turn on a manager now on here……not since the last one anyway.

When a guy’s time is up with the fans you just know. I’m not sure it is quite there yet with the team though.

Nowhere near that in the stadium though

Bluto Blutarsky · Feb 14, 2023

Caco said:
Instead of managing, he constantly talks in the media about the lack of resources at his disposal

Link to said "constantly talking about the lack of resources"?

I honestly don't recall the last time he mentioned that he did not have the resources - but it certainly does not seem to be a constant message from Conte.

I know a lot of supporters who assume Conte thinks that - but if he is constantly talking about it, I am missing it.

Ghost Hardware · Feb 14, 2023

IfiHadTheWings said:
We can’t just coast along until Conte walks in the Summer.

It entirely depends who we would get in to replace him. Anyone other than Poch then we will have to wait until summer most likely which means we will coast the rest of season anyway with Mason in charge.

At this point we just need to accept the season is most likely done and we now need to make sure everything is in place for the next season. We need to use all the time we have between now and summer to actually plan for the future for once rather than just be reactionary. New DoF and new manager. And I hope we look at a number of options no just one.

spursfan77 · Feb 14, 2023

Spunkmonkey said:
So boring. Bring the fun back.

Apart from three months at the end of last season the fun supporting spurs seems to be a long time ago. The fuckers at the club really have ground us down. I’m really considering not renewing my season tickets next season. I’m loathed to stop but why keep going back for more punishment.

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