davidmatzdorf
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@FinnYid apparently has a better understanding of English grammar and usage than you have.
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Tezza1978
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Without being signed these shirts are an utter rip-off
davidmatzdorf
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The poverty that, in the 21c. still chronically affects nearly all the countries that were looted of their resources by the British Empire and then chucked into independence in the mid-20c. ill-prepared, economically dependent and susceptible to autocracy and corruption.
Pay them.
For the love of Spurs
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What does that have to do with Tottenham Hotspur, we are not owned by the British government, but we maybe owned by the government of Abu Dubai.
ukdy
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I haven't seen them comment on it? Have they?
To be clear this is my opinion, but a pretty logical conclusion given the week the club has had and the noise from the fans. The last thing the club wants is a full scale pitch invasion - embarrassing them if there are talks with potential investors, sponsors, etc.
It was something I'd never seen before, orange hi-viz security staff forming an evenly spaced out show on the field... literally as the whistle blew.
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" a monarchy who has based its economic growth on massive exploitation and death of migrant labour from less developed countries" Is an apt description of the UK tbf
Doesn't seem too sharp, was saying just now on a live show that QSI's investment would lead to an instant return as an increase in the share price as it did with Braga - but Spurs is not public...
At least the story is everywhere now and everyone is saying the same so credit to his info.
davidmatzdorf
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It is possible BOTH to be concerned about the lack of reparations for slavery and colonialism AND to abhor the behaviour of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and not want either of those regimes anywhere near THFC.
I agree with @Stamford's OP, but it isn't helping to focus the discussion, it's just causing confusion and giving people excuses to dodge the issue.
Of course, it is possible for a person born in the 20/21c. to concern themselves with the history of colonialism without flagellating themselves with fake liberal personal guilt. It's just bullshit and it's embarrassing,
More to the point, it's not an excuse to ignore the bigotry and misbehaviour of Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
The other way people are blowing smoke is by trying to conflate the ways in which billionaires like Joe Lewis got rich with the actions of those two states and others like them. Everyone here knows what I think of billionaires, but this really shouldn't be difficult.
Joe Lewis and those like him got rich by exploiting markets. They have hoarded a great deal of money that should be circulating in the economy and thus they are indirectly causing poverty and deprivation. But they are private individuals.
Qatar and SA are rogue states. They are controlled by fundamentalist, bigoted and violent religious sects and they routinely murder their own citizens and cause negligent homicides by the thousand. The deprive people, especially women, of their personal freedoms and they oppress LGBTQ people.
In the case of Qatar and the World Cup, there isn't even one layer of removal from the oppression: they allowed thousands of people to die while building the WC stadiums and they made it impossible for LGBTQ people to attend the WC safely. As for SA, the ruler was personally involved in killing and dismembering a prominent dissident who resided overseas. I mean ... what happens when they want to sack the manager?
I can support Spurs when we are owned by someone like Joe Lewis. If Qatari or SA interests buy into the club, I'll still support Spurs from a distance, but my season ticket will be going back and I won't attend matches regularly any more.
I agree with @Stamford's OP, but it isn't helping to focus the discussion, it's just causing confusion and giving people excuses to dodge the issue.
Of course, it is possible for a person born in the 20/21c. to concern themselves with the history of colonialism without flagellating themselves with fake liberal personal guilt. It's just bullshit and it's embarrassing,
More to the point, it's not an excuse to ignore the bigotry and misbehaviour of Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
The other way people are blowing smoke is by trying to conflate the ways in which billionaires like Joe Lewis got rich with the actions of those two states and others like them. Everyone here knows what I think of billionaires, but this really shouldn't be difficult.
Joe Lewis and those like him got rich by exploiting markets. They have hoarded a great deal of money that should be circulating in the economy and thus they are indirectly causing poverty and deprivation. But they are private individuals.
Qatar and SA are rogue states. They are controlled by fundamentalist, bigoted and violent religious sects and they routinely murder their own citizens and cause negligent homicides by the thousand. The deprive people, especially women, of their personal freedoms and they oppress LGBTQ people.
In the case of Qatar and the World Cup, there isn't even one layer of removal from the oppression: they allowed thousands of people to die while building the WC stadiums and they made it impossible for LGBTQ people to attend the WC safely. As for SA, the ruler was personally involved in killing and dismembering a prominent dissident who resided overseas. I mean ... what happens when they want to sack the manager?
I can support Spurs when we are owned by someone like Joe Lewis. If Qatari or SA interests buy into the club, I'll still support Spurs from a distance, but my season ticket will be going back and I won't attend matches regularly any more.
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Do you really think Joe Lewis' (and any other billionaire's) wealth is in cash? Their wealth is absolutely in circulation and producing jobs and revenues to others, prime example being Spurs themselves.
jpascavitz
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I believe he's between London/NY according to his profile and over here in America with the rise of CBS Sports coverage of the sport, he's been featured on different shows and punditry here - no clue who he has ties to. There are some cringe reporters on over here in the US always acting like they know everything/everyone and I never got that from him, but who knows.
Mate
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Not to mention more affordable as I have no doubt Levy's price will be inflated beyond belief
chrisd2k
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I wouldn't bother. He uses nice words and sounds intelligent but most of that is complete bollocks.
WiganSpur
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Despite Levy's no doubt sky high price that's what makes us attractive imo. No infrastructure spend required, just pump quarter of a billion into transfers (likely with some degree of return) and when we start winning pots our reputation will go through the roof.
WiganSpur
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Well I want them nowhere near us and if not us it will be another club. So better a club that can already spend 200m a season on players making any investment an irrelevance on the pitch at least.
coysjod
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I as a Swede would like to agree with you here but since we Norsemen started the whole barbaric murder trend in your island I might have to wait until someone murders me back before I concur?
Trent Crimm
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Is there any need for such a snide, bitchy little comment. Clearly I was joking.
thebenjamin
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Yiddo100
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Not quite sure how any could’ve missed it tbh ?
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