Match Threads Fulham vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 26

Trees · Mar 5, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Serious ping on him

I thought he was excellent. We were linked a couple of years ago ? Fulham have 2 players on loan in Andersen and Lookman that might be worth a look. Parker is doing a good job with Fulham. Serving his apprenticeship and media friendly aswell. Would understand our club.

Trees · Mar 5, 2021

Shadydan said:
The drop off from Kane to Vinicius is huge, the thing is Kane still brings a lot to the team even when he is misfiring in front of goal, his hold up play, intelligence, occupying defenders etc... is unmatched, that was the kind of game where we grind out a result and you're not going to do that with Vinicius on the pitch.

Look at the 92nd minute. Harry runs it into the corner and wastes 90 seconds. I still think the amount of games we have to play may bite us on the arse.

DarwinSpur · Mar 5, 2021

allatsea said:
Reminded me of the penalty given against Dier. The Refs and VAR are getting this hopelessly wrong.

The Dier one was a shocker but at least his hand was "away from his body". The Fulham bloke's arm was down and on his thigh. The only way to avoid "handball" would be to cut the fucking arms off. Unbelievable decision.

Trees · Mar 5, 2021

DarwinSpur said:
The Dier one was a shocker but at least his hand was "away from his body". The Fulham bloke's arm was down and on his thigh. The only way to avoid "handball" would be to cut the fucking arms off. Unbelievable decision.

For once though in fairness to the officials, if it touches the arm or hand in the build up to a goal it is disallowed. That’s the rules not the officials.

chrissivad · Mar 5, 2021

Trees said:
For once though in fairness to the officials, if it touches the arm or hand in the build up to a goal it is disallowed. That’s the rules not the officials.

Yeah, and has been for 2 seasons now?

CoopsieDeadpool · Mar 5, 2021

UbeAstard said:
I'm torn with just blaming it on Mourinho though. What's your suggestion in these scenario's? I just dont know apart from we lack composure and are just thrusting the ball in the gneral direction of a Spurs shirt.

Well, for a start, (the guy you're torn with just blaming) could stop taking off the one guy who's controls the midfield for us. Every time he takes NDombele off we end up being bombarded for the rest of the game.

chrissivad · Mar 5, 2021

coopsieyid said:
Well, for a start, the guy you're torn with just blaming could stop taking off the one guy who's controls the midfield for us. Every time he takes NDombele off we end up being bombarded for the rest of the game.

Well for a start

We need LoCelso back so he can come on when we take Ndombele off.

As others have said in here, attackers were still trying to press at time, and the defence sat deep. Gave them a huge gap in midfield to play in.

We needed to stay more compact. Maybe Dele could have dropped deeper when we didn't have the ball to have 3 in CM.

That could let Hojbjerg or Ndombele help cover the fullbacks if Son or Bale don't track back.

hughy · Mar 5, 2021

coopsieyid said:
Well, for a start, the guy you're torn with just blaming could stop taking off the one guy who's controls the midfield for us. Every time he takes NDombele off we end up being bombarded for the rest of the game.

Well for a start

We were better yesterday in the second half when Ndombele went off. Lamela actually got us pushing back up the pitch, he had that jinking run on the right hand side of the box which had he found a man could have put the game to bed, and he played a nice ball in to Kane which he should have finished.

spursfan77 · Mar 5, 2021

DarwinSpur said:
Just seen the VAR decision. That's ludicrous. Never in a million years is that - or has ever been - handball. Authorities need to get a grip.

Talking of VAR, how it never gave us a penalty for the trip on Kane I’ll never know. Although I’ve an inkling they didn’t want to have to re-correct Coote again for the umpteenth time this season.

hughy · Mar 5, 2021

spursfan77 said:
Talking of VAR, how it never gave us a penalty for the trip on Kane I’ll never know. Although I’ve an inkling they didn’t want to have to re-correct Coote again for the umpteenth time this season.

What was the official word on that, was it deemed to be outside the box? They didn't even show a side-on angle.

He definitely had his foot clipped.

spursfan77 · Mar 5, 2021

hughy said:
What was the official word on that, was it deemed to be outside the box? They didn't even show a side-on angle.

He definitely had his foot clipped.

No idea. It seems to be brushed over in all the reports I read. I just saw it on MOTD and it looked like a trip inside the box to me. Kane’s in if he isn’t fouled.

CoopsieDeadpool · Mar 5, 2021

WhiteDane said:
He was very poor for our goal (said from a Dane) but he's a very good ball-playing CB. Still needs to improve his defending an decision making a lot though..

Glad you pointed that bit out mate. Had no idea :cautious:

CoopsieDeadpool · Mar 5, 2021

chrissivad said:
We need LoCelso back so he can come on when we take Ndombele off.

As others have said in here, attackers were still trying to press at time, and the defence sat deep. Gave them a huge gap in midfield to play in.

We needed to stay more compact. Maybe Dele could have dropped deeper when we didn't have the ball to have 3 in CM.

That could let Hojbjerg or Ndombele help cover the fullbacks if Son or Bale don't track back.

Agree completely. Then again, I thought it was wrong (unfair) to take either of Dele or NDombele off.

JimmyG2 · Mar 5, 2021

Trees said:
For once though in fairness to the officials, if it touches the arm or hand in the build up to a goal it is disallowed. That’s the rules not the officials.

Agree but what a fucking stupid rule
If it's not called as handball at the time
it's not handball
whatever happens subsequently.
Intent is all.
And the linesman not raising the flag
when he observes an offside.
is another ridiculous,
And pointless
complication of the rules.
And don't get me started on VAR.

Japhet · Mar 5, 2021

jeremystorey said:
They remind of Norwich from last season. A team brimming with talent. But very young, and not a lot of depth in terms of quality. I was happy they didn’t fire Farke, as he is a good manager. And we have seen they’ve reaped the benefits of that continuity In the Championship. Oh, and yeah, having our Skippy boss every game probably doesn’t hurt!

If they go down, I hope they retain Scott Parker. He shows promise as a coach. That’s speaking objectively. Subjectively speaking, I am livid at him and the other three or four coaches who voted against the 5 sub rule for this season. There have been so many injuries across the league this year. Their decision is detrimental to all players. And shows very little care for the long term health of the players. Those who used to be his peers. So, yea I respect his coaching but as a person, to make that decision is abhorrent. Never should have been a choice. Should have been a rule.

This is pure bollocks. Scott Parker is trying to look after his own players by objecting to the 5 sub proposal. How are lower clubs supposed to react when City could bring on Jesus, Foden, Silva, Aguero and Laporte and their own players are left trying to battle that? The wealthy clubs would be given a massive advantage against the minnows who would be running their best players into the ground because they don't have any depth (because they can't afford it).

Japhet · Mar 5, 2021

DarwinSpur said:
Just seen the VAR decision. That's ludicrous. Never in a million years is that - or has ever been - handball. Authorities need to get a grip.

Neither was Dier's 'handball' v Newcastle so ther's a bit of karma for you. We should have had a pen too - Salah would have squeezed 6 spot kicks out of that much contact.

14/04/91 · Mar 5, 2021

Trees said:
For once though in fairness to the officials, if it touches the arm or hand in the build up to a goal it is disallowed. That’s the rules not the officials.

It amazes me people (including professional commentators and pundits) still don't know the difference. Whilst the merits of the rule are very debatable, there is a very clear difference between attacking & defending.

Yesterday's was harsh on Fulham in many people's opinion but factually it's very cut & dried. Any by the way nothing will beat Moura's vs Sheff United for harshness!

CoopsieDeadpool · Mar 5, 2021

hughy said:
We were better yesterday in the second half when Ndombele went off. Lamela actually got us pushing back up the pitch, he had that jinking run on the right hand side of the box which had he found a man could have put the game to bed, and he played a nice ball in to Kane which he should have finished.

I (politely) disagree, not about Lamela, the lad should be starting every game with the form he's shown over the last month or so.

Yes Lamela got us pushing back up the pitch, but he was the only one. And before he was doing it, it was NDombele & Dele doing it.

Bale was on a yellow & we're managing his minutes/fitness. So why not just replace him with Lamela, then leave Dele & NDombele on? Son had another off night & looked absolutely knackered. So why not replace him with Sissoko & just push Dele into Sons position?

That leaves a pretty strong midfield of Hojbjerg, NDombele & Sissoko, with Lamela still there to do what he does so well, while allowing Dele to build up match fitness & confidence after another good performance and completing 90 minutes, thus starting to believe his manager is beginning to trust him.

We do have the players to continue to worry the opposition for 90 minutes but, for whatever reason, our manager continues to not want to utilise our (blatant) biggest strength, our attacking players, and prefers to see us drop deeper and deeper whilst basically being under siege until the final whistle.

It's failed us multiple times already this season, and we were very lucky that it didn't fail us again last night. As others have pointed out, it's a worrying pattern & we will not keep getting away with it throughout the remainder of the season.

Deleted member 29446 · Mar 5, 2021

coopsieyid said:
Glad you pointed that bit out mate. Had no idea

chrissivad · Mar 5, 2021

coopsieyid said:
Agree completely. Then again, I thought it was wrong (unfair) to take either of Dele or NDombele off.

I think all our subs were due to fitness rather than anything else.

Lack of game time for Bale and Dele, so still building up fitness. And Ndombele has played a lot of games recently, so could be trying to keep in the starting line up until Lo Celso is an option.

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