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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to win with a clean sheet

    Votes: 13 13.1%
  • Spurs to win but concedes

    Votes: 50 50.5%
  • Spurs to win coming back from a losing position

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Spurs to lose coming from a winning position

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spurs to lose despite scoring

    Votes: 8 8.1%
  • Spurs to lose without scoring

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 21 21.2%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    99
  • Poll closed .

Hoddle&Waddle

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Nov 25, 2012
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After a disastrous season, I think we can finally see light at end of tunnel.. Bring on next season.. I'd love us to be brave in transfer market & pair Belotti with Kane.. We'd tear defences apart.. know money isn't there.. So just dreaming
Kane with Bale in behind would be more jizzworthy. The interplay and movement would be unstoppable. Plus the freekicks of Bale to add to the threat.

Actually think it could be a title winning combo providing we can keep defending like we are.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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Erm well.

They played fun stuff. Then they stopped playing fun stuff and started winning. Just think about how they played against us in the CL final? Just be compact and stop up from playing, not from the front foot, it was a masterclass in out of possession control.

They didn't reach three European cup finals in a row, they reached two and the final of a cup that you have to not be good enough to qualify for.

Klopp won nothing until last season. In his first season he took a club in 7th position mid season and, erm, made them finish 8th. Then two well fought 4th positions before finally winning something.


Klopp puts it best:

“You cannot win only with offensive football, it’s not possible. Because you are open and the pitch was too big for that [...] you need to be organised"


They were incredibly inconsistent when Klopp was going full on pressing. They started playing way more defensively and in an organised way, and stopped pressing all the time and started focusing on being defensively more compact and this helped them a lot. Liverpools success is not based on fluid attacking football, it's based on a solid base and structure.

Klopp has a reputation has being an attacking exciting manager, and that's why people cut him some slack. But, they don't turn it on very often these days. They are a winning machine, rather than a particularly exciting team to watch.

We have things to work on, but I just don't like this sort of basing managers off reputation rather than what they actually are doing. You can win playing boring boring football. We do need to learn to be a bit more creative. But there are a lot of positive green shoots.
Spot on.

You could see since the end of last season Liverpool started to pick up more narrow wins or more comfortable 2-0 wins without looking spectacular.

It's all because Klopp realised that going full force wasn't going to cut it.

I then remember several games of theirs at the start of the season which were very boring to watch. They also had a few hairy moments before being ruthless at the other end.

Actually Klopp should have realised something from his time at Dortmund. Because he milked that squad for everything they had and he burnt them out with the non-stop press. I'm sure it was in his mind but probably didn't apply it until he realised Liverpool had consistent defensive issues.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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Erm well.

They played fun stuff. Then they stopped playing fun stuff and started winning. Just think about how they played against us in the CL final? Just be compact and stop up from playing, not from the front foot, it was a masterclass in out of possession control.

They didn't reach three European cup finals in a row, they reached two and the final of a cup that you have to not be good enough to qualify for.

Klopp won nothing until last season. In his first season he took a club in 7th position mid season and, erm, made them finish 8th. Then two well fought 4th positions before finally winning something.


Klopp puts it best:

“You cannot win only with offensive football, it’s not possible. Because you are open and the pitch was too big for that [...] you need to be organised"


They were incredibly inconsistent when Klopp was going full on pressing. They started playing way more defensively and in an organised way, and stopped pressing all the time and started focusing on being defensively more compact and this helped them a lot. Liverpools success is not based on fluid attacking football, it's based on a solid base and structure.

Klopp has a reputation has being an attacking exciting manager, and that's why people cut him some slack. But, they don't turn it on very often these days. They are a winning machine, rather than a particularly exciting team to watch.

We have things to work on, but I just don't like this sort of basing managers off reputation rather than what they actually are doing. You can win playing boring boring football. We do need to learn to be a bit more creative. But there are a lot of positive green shoots.
You can’t say that.1 game doesn’t show how they played all season the next. The fact they were given a goal dictated how they played from there on. We weren’t good enough to break them down. That’s not how they played all that season or this.
 

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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The best teams that win stuff now don’t play how we play because the game has moved on. We play like a team that is trying not to lose games not a team trying to win them. In the end that won’t be enough to win things.
What a load of nonsense.

We are playing like a team that is focused on winning, not winning pretty! Some of the most memorable victories have been won playing this way. Leicester's title win, Chelsea's UCL win, Real Madrid's title under JM, Greece and Portugal's European championship wins, all playing counter attack football with relatively lower possession than expected.
Winning football is scoring goals and not conceding, plain and simple!

We may not play possession football, but I for one don't care.
 

whitelanefever

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Aug 21, 2012
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Kane with Bale in behind would be more jizzworthy. The interplay and movement would be unstoppable. Plus the freekicks of Bale to add to the threat.

Actually think it could be a title winning combo providing we can keep defending like we are.
Undoubtedly.. But money wise no chance
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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They were shown on TV once and probably made the respective people’s day. There is plenty to dig him out for, that isn’t one of the things though
The only explanation for your defense of him is that you also have a massive portrait of yourself above your fireplace.
 

SuperPav10

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Aug 20, 2013
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The best teams that win stuff now don’t play how we play because the game has moved on. We play like a team that is trying not to lose games not a team trying to win them. In the end that won’t be enough to win things.
Well, other than Conte who won Chelsea a title playing like that. And Leicester who won their title playing counter attacking football.
 

tony0379

The bald midget has to go!
May 17, 2004
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Who can you guys see coming and going straight into our 1st 11 and improving us?
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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What a load of nonsense.

We are playing like a team that is focused on winning, not winning pretty! Some of the most memorable victories have been won playing this way. Leicester's title win, Chelsea's UCL win, Real Madrid's title under JM, Greece and Portugal's European championship wins, all playing counter attack football with relatively lower possession than expected.
Winning football is scoring goals and not conceding, plain and simple!

We may not play possession football, but I for one don't care.
Every other team that played those competitions and won them were front foot teams. These are anomalies not more than that. Every team has to be able to adapt to the game but our basic game plan is to get everyone behind the ball and mic a goal. Not brilliant tactics or enjoyable football.
 

Barrd10

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Well, other than Conte who won Chelsea a title playing like that. And Leicester who won their title playing counter attacking football.
Both times the normal dominant teams were is transis
Well, other than Conte who won Chelsea a title playing like that. And Leicester who won their title playing counter attacking football.
Both times they didn’t have European football and were much fresher then all the other teams. And the big teams were in transition.
 

Erm33

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Jose said clear as day the game plan today was not to leave vardy space to run at/in behind our back line. We stopped vardy and they struggled to break us down. Everything that got through Hugo stopped well. It was all to game plan until we visibly tired in the 2nd half. There's been a lot of games in the past few weeks so I think it was an excellent all round performance and there was no point looking to take too many chances in the 2nd half as the game was already won as long as we didn't play naively.

I don't understand how some people are unhappy with a 3-0 win at home?
 

HedgieSpur

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Kane with Bale in behind would be more jizzworthy. The interplay and movement would be unstoppable. Plus the freekicks of Bale to add to the threat.

Actually think it could be a title winning combo providing we can keep defending like we are.

Not the Bale of the last few years. His attitude has been appalling imo...7 years there and can't be bothered to learn the language is reprehensible.

Kane with peak Bale would have been immense though.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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Sheffield United play nothing like Brighton and neither plays anything like us!

What on earth have you been watching?

EDIT: I wonder if you meant our performances against Bournemouth and Sheffield United...? It was nothing like them either. Against SU, our defence was all over the place, the opposite of today. Against Bournemouth, we were hesitant and dithery in attack, the opposite of today.
The way we played against them was the same.
 

dondo

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Jan 4, 2006
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What are we actually doing? Every game is based on counter attacking. Never on the front foot. This is our world now.


its a start,our defence was conceding 2/3 goals every game for most of this season.
This defence needs protection, with better players next season hopefully we will see a better game plan
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Not the Bale of the last few years. His attitude has been appalling imo...7 years there and can't be bothered to learn the language is reprehensible.

Kane with peak Bale would have been immense though.


He speaks Spanish.

Unless that's dubbed by the bloke who did the Bruce Lee movies :D
 

C0YS

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Jul 9, 2007
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You can’t say that.1 game doesn’t show how they played all season the next. The fact they were given a goal dictated how they played from there on. We weren’t good enough to break them down. That’s not how they played all that season or this.

Mate, it's not just one game. Yes, they played particularly defensive that game. But when was the last swashbuckling exciting game we've had against liverpool?

Don't get me wrong, they can still turn it on when they need to. But they play in a balanced way. There is nothing particularly exciting or swashbuckling about how they play. They have developed into a well rounded team, not a particularly exciting attacking one.
 
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