We need a CM over those first imoWe need 3 new players that can immediately challenge for first team
LB
RB
Eriksen's replacement
Mate what is your problem I have never said levy doesn't have a brain find a quote where I said that because you won't find one.You obviously don't associate Levy as having a brain then. the price put on Eriksens head is either complete paper talk, or Levy is willing to risk losing him for nothing, or at a push to make sure we get something back from RM
The money we get for both Eriksen and Toby will definitely be used, but until we know the figure we get for Eriksen no one knows. if we do only get 70-90m because of him being in his final season, and we do sell 1 or 2 of our FB's then unless we do introduce KWP, means we will then have to buy at least 1 FB, 2 midfielders plus someone to replace Eriksen, and someone decent to cover Vorm.
in the summer ITK said the reason holding up buying was selling. the trouble is all the negative posters have it as "No Money", but none of you understand as I've posted a 1000 times, we have to sell because our squad was too big 28 does not go into 25.
Levy knows to get CL football, the club will need to buy, the only difference being this summer 3 or 4 will definitely be leaving, which with Dembele already gone, a good chance we will either sell or loan Janssen, GKN, Onamah and CCV again, that will mean we can purchase up to 5 players to have a 25 man squad.
this last seasons transfer dealings have damaged too many peoples beliefs and too many make it sound like it's something we do every bloody year
Your probably right in regards to what we recruit that maybe we do target player's that are not so much in demand certainly big clubs.Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.
Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.
I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.
We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he struggles?
I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.
Mindless and meaningless rant over!!
Mate what is your problem I have never said levy doesn't have a brain find a quote where I said that because you won't find one.
As for these negative poster's you mean people that have an opinion and question things, as I told you before if we couldn't shift anyone whose fault was that certainly none of the posters on here that's for sure.
I'm not convinced as easily as you are regarding what happens next so best to leave it there or otherwise it just drags on and becomes boring.
Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.
Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.
How do you know these players are rated by poch ?I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.
Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he
I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.
Mindless and meaningless rant over!!
We need a CM over those first imo
You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?
Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.
How do you know these players are rated by poch ?
Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?
Genuinely curious.
You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?
Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours said:[QUOTE = How do you know these players are rated by poch ?
Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?
Genuinely curious.
Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.
Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.
I'm totally with you mate. It's no secret we have a penchant for signing 'opportunities' - otherwise known as other teams' cast offs or contract run-downs. I don't believe Aurier or Moura were scouted, rather products of emails arriving in DL's inbox. Same with Llorente (Berahino also scored 14 goals before we were interested) - the 'What are we going to do taoday, then?' line at 7am on deadline day with a clap and a rub of the hands - all rumours, but it bloody well sounds true enough - no scouting, just opportunities at the last minute. The lines from Poch about 'changing the way we operate if we are going to compete,' mitchell leaving almost as soon as he came - shouldn't take a genius to work it out. it's been rotten. Now is THE time to put it right.You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?
As @wrd said (thank you), Dele joined before which is why I said Sept 2015.
Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.
Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.
How do you know these players are rated by poch ?
I don't but JJ and trix said we tried for Werner but unsurprisingly he was too expensive. I think you'd have to be a poor judge of player not to rate the others so think Poch would rate them. Whether they fit into our price range or playing style is another matter. I think most would agree that they would definitely strengthen us.
Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?
Where did I say that? We all have our strengths and weaknesses and maybe transfers isn't one of Levy's? I suggested that he should probably get someone to assist on this side.
The point I was trying to make, is that since Poch and Levy became in charge of transfers, we haven't signed many to improve us and seem to only buy cast offs or those which don't interest anyone else. This is what needs to change.
This post probably more than any other sums up the difference between us. You think Liverpool’s spending has got them nowhere if they don’t win the CL or PL. I completely disagree. Regardless of whether they win either they are genuinely challenging for both. We haven’t been in a genuine challenge for the league since 1985. Spending guarantees nothing but spending nothing guarantees failure. You seem very happy with this state of affairs as you continue to repeat your financial illiteracy with nonsense like no spending until the stadium is “paid off”. I’m not happy with this, I’d much rather be in Liverpool’s shoes of having a go even if they ultimately fail rather than our risk first approach of not even trying because we might not succeed.Liverpool spent massive, but have also gone out the 1st hurdle in both domestic cups, if Man C do them in the League and they lose in the CL, what have they to show for just short of 200m, so spending guarantees NOTHING, unless you can afford to pay player 150k per week to warm the bench
We won't pay agent fees. Therefore the minute a player's agent turns around and demands more out of the deal we walk away.Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.
Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.
I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.
We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he struggles?
I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.
Mindless and meaningless rant over!!
I saw someone mention in the 'missing' thread that @tiger666 hadn't been around. Someone mentioned disparaging Levy at his Bat signal. Well, you've just happened upon another one. But i totally agree with you in that Lefties tend to be real left-footed. It's like their brain doesn't even register they have a right side.Always seems to come up with left footed players for some reason. He’s not one footed, he’s just left footed.
This post probably more than any other sums up the difference between us. You think Liverpool’s spending has got them nowhere if they don’t win the CL or PL. I completely disagree. Regardless of whether they win either they are genuinely challenging for both. We haven’t been in a genuine challenge for the league since 1985. Spending guarantees nothing but spending nothing guarantees failure. You seem very happy with this state of affairs as you continue to repeat your financial illiteracy with nonsense like no spending until the stadium is “paid off”. I’m not happy with this, I’d much rather be in Liverpool’s shoes of having a go even if they ultimately fail rather than our risk first approach of not even trying because we might not succeed.
1) You’re absolutely right and I’m sorry for suggesting you had ulterior motives. That was wrong.You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?
As @wrd said (thank you), Dele joined before which is why I said Sept 2015.
Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.
Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.
How do you know these players are rated by poch ?
I don't but JJ and trix said we tried for Werner but unsurprisingly he was too expensive. I think you'd have to be a poor judge of player not to rate the others so think Poch would rate them. Whether they fit into our price range or playing style is another matter. I think most would agree that they would definitely strengthen us.
Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?
Where did I say that? We all have our strengths and weaknesses and maybe transfers isn't one of Levy's? I suggested that he should probably get someone to assist on this side.
The point I was trying to make, is that since Poch and Levy became in charge of transfers, we haven't signed many to improve us and seem to only buy cast offs or those which don't interest anyone else. This is what needs to change.
Just a heads up for the Spain vs Norway game in under an hour. Sander Berge is out injured I believe, but Martin Odegaard is starting. I don’t think we’ve been linked, but he’s been superb in the Eredivisie this season. If Eriksen does indeed go to Madrid, I wouldn’t be against Odegaard being part of the deal.
Another to keep an eye on is Ajer at CB. The young Celtic defender is highly rated.