The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[parj]

We need 3 new players that can immediately challenge for first team
LB
RB
Eriksen's replacement

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

We need 3 new players that can immediately challenge for first team
LB
RB
Eriksen's replacement

We need a CM over those first imo

 

[Jaddas]

Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.

Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.

I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.

We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he struggles?

I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.

Mindless and meaningless rant over!!

 

[shelfboy68]

You obviously don't associate Levy as having a brain then. the price put on Eriksens head is either complete paper talk, or Levy is willing to risk losing him for nothing, or at a push to make sure we get something back from RM

The money we get for both Eriksen and Toby will definitely be used, but until we know the figure we get for Eriksen no one knows. if we do only get 70-90m because of him being in his final season, and we do sell 1 or 2 of our FB's then unless we do introduce KWP, means we will then have to buy at least 1 FB, 2 midfielders plus someone to replace Eriksen, and someone decent to cover Vorm.

in the summer ITK said the reason holding up buying was selling. the trouble is all the negative posters have it as "No Money", but none of you understand as I've posted a 1000 times, we have to sell because our squad was too big 28 does not go into 25.

Levy knows to get CL football, the club will need to buy, the only difference being this summer 3 or 4 will definitely be leaving, which with Dembele already gone, a good chance we will either sell or loan Janssen, GKN, Onamah and CCV again, that will mean we can purchase up to 5 players to have a 25 man squad.

this last seasons transfer dealings have damaged too many peoples beliefs and too many make it sound like it's something we do every bloody year

Mate what is your problem I have never said levy doesn't have a brain find a quote where I said that because you won't find one.
As for these negative poster's you mean people that have an opinion and question things, as I told you before if we couldn't shift anyone whose fault was that certainly none of the posters on here that's for sure.
I'm not convinced as easily as you are regarding what happens next so best to leave it there or otherwise it just drags on and becomes boring.

 

[Spursh]

Just a heads up for the Spain vs Norway game in under an hour. Sander Berge is out injured I believe, but Martin Odegaard is starting. I don’t think we’ve been linked, but he’s been superb in the Eredivisie this season. If Eriksen does indeed go to Madrid, I wouldn’t be against Odegaard being part of the deal.

Another to keep an eye on is Ajer at CB. The young Celtic defender is highly rated.

 

[shelfboy68]

Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.

Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.

I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.

We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he struggles?

I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.

Mindless and meaningless rant over!!

Your probably right in regards to what we recruit that maybe we do target player's that are not so much in demand certainly big clubs.
But realistically who can we target because the best player's want to join club's that can win thing's including CL and or pay massive wages all of which we as a club can't or won't do.

 

[Lighty64]

Mate what is your problem I have never said levy doesn't have a brain find a quote where I said that because you won't find one.
As for these negative poster's you mean people that have an opinion and question things, as I told you before if we couldn't shift anyone whose fault was that certainly none of the posters on here that's for sure.
I'm not convinced as easily as you are regarding what happens next so best to leave it there or otherwise it just drags on and becomes boring.

you might of not directly said it, but the continuous "won't change" as good as suggests it, because our worst season for investment has shown this season. if he doesn't do something in the summer he will risk any hope to keep us playing CL.

whose fault? hmmm how many teams would consider buying the deadwood we wanted out

Rose: just announced he had mental health issues, so not exactly the clubs fault no 1 put a bid in

Toby: yes we might of been at fault for asking to much, but the only interested club was a main rival. if your going to sell to a main rival, you make sure you get a top fee. this season we won't get the option

Wanyama: injured, and as JJ mentioned doubt he would get through a medical

Dembele: was at the WC so only a small window, and at the time only Italian clubs showed an interest. another player with medical problems, and with going to China for big wages, I would expect he never went because of a massive wage drop. perhaps we should of asked for a lower fee to help them pay more wages, but don't know if that would of worked.

Sissoko: talk of going back to France, another country that's not renowned for paying PL wages

Janssen: needed an operation so I doubt selling him would be too easy.

the only thing the club was guilty of in the 5 above was not just giving them away, which I definitely don't blame the club for. especially to then go pay 10-20m over the odds for every player linked with us

 

[LeParisien]

Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.

Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.

I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.

How do you know these players are rated by poch ?

We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he

I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.

Mindless and meaningless rant over!!

Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?

Genuinely curious.

 

[parj]

We need a CM over those first imo

I think we could make do with Sissoko as CM. Right now our width going forward is awful

 

[wrd]

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.
How do you know these players are rated by poch ?



Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?

Genuinely curious.

Dele joined on Feb 2nd 2015 and Baldini left in Sept 2015 as he said, so he's not being strategic is he.

 

[Jaddas]

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

[QUOTE = How do you know these players are rated by poch ?

Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?


Genuinely curious.

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

As @wrd said (thank you), Dele joined before which is why I said Sept 2015.

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.

Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.

How do you know these players are rated by poch ?

I don't but JJ and trix said we tried for Werner but unsurprisingly he was too expensive. I think you'd have to be a poor judge of player not to rate the others so think Poch would rate them. Whether they fit into our price range or playing style is another matter. I think most would agree that they would definitely strengthen us.

Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?

Where did I say that? We all have our strengths and weaknesses and maybe transfers isn't one of Levy's? I suggested that he should probably get someone to assist on this side.

The point I was trying to make, is that since Poch and Levy became in charge of transfers, we haven't signed many to improve us and seem to only buy cast offs or those which don't interest anyone else. This is what needs to change.

 

[Ben1]

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.

Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.

Its a good point though...how do you know other clubs weren't interested? paper talk?

The Sanchez and Foyth interest from Barca and PSG may well have been real. I think what the fella before was trying to say is that its difficult to decipher who is interested and fails to sign a player, because what team announces that.

 

[King of the Lane]

I have a feeling we will go big for Zaha this summer. Poch has wanted him forever and he would improve our attack.

 

[daryl hannah]

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

As @wrd said (thank you), Dele joined before which is why I said Sept 2015.

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.

Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.

How do you know these players are rated by poch ?

I don't but JJ and trix said we tried for Werner but unsurprisingly he was too expensive. I think you'd have to be a poor judge of player not to rate the others so think Poch would rate them. Whether they fit into our price range or playing style is another matter. I think most would agree that they would definitely strengthen us.

Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?

Where did I say that? We all have our strengths and weaknesses and maybe transfers isn't one of Levy's? I suggested that he should probably get someone to assist on this side.

The point I was trying to make, is that since Poch and Levy became in charge of transfers, we haven't signed many to improve us and seem to only buy cast offs or those which don't interest anyone else. This is what needs to change.

I'm totally with you mate. It's no secret we have a penchant for signing 'opportunities' - otherwise known as other teams' cast offs or contract run-downs. I don't believe Aurier or Moura were scouted, rather products of emails arriving in DL's inbox. Same with Llorente (Berahino also scored 14 goals before we were interested) - the 'What are we going to do taoday, then?' line at 7am on deadline day with a clap and a rub of the hands - all rumours, but it bloody well sounds true enough - no scouting, just opportunities at the last minute. The lines from Poch about 'changing the way we operate if we are going to compete,' mitchell leaving almost as soon as he came - shouldn't take a genius to work it out. it's been rotten. Now is THE time to put it right.

Get it right this summer, and they'll satisfy a huge amount of disgruntled fans - even if we fail to win anything. You know why? Because we would have tried. And that's the price of entry to top level competition. Trying.

The best bit of business was Gazzaniga.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Liverpool spent massive, but have also gone out the 1st hurdle in both domestic cups, if Man C do them in the League and they lose in the CL, what have they to show for just short of 200m, so spending guarantees NOTHING, unless you can afford to pay player 150k per week to warm the bench

This post probably more than any other sums up the difference between us. You think Liverpool’s spending has got them nowhere if they don’t win the CL or PL. I completely disagree. Regardless of whether they win either they are genuinely challenging for both. We haven’t been in a genuine challenge for the league since 1985. Spending guarantees nothing but spending nothing guarantees failure. You seem very happy with this state of affairs as you continue to repeat your financial illiteracy with nonsense like no spending until the stadium is “paid off”. I’m not happy with this, I’d much rather be in Liverpool’s shoes of having a go even if they ultimately fail rather than our risk first approach of not even trying because we might not succeed.

 

[rossdapep]

Off topic as this is a wishlist, and I know that we haven't bought anyone for a while but something has been nagging away at me.

Our last 10 transfers (from Sept 2015 when Baldini left) are Wanyama, GKN, Jansenn, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Gazzaniga, Foyth, Llorente & Moura. How many of these were coveted by other teams? Everton were close to Sissoko & Chavs to Llorente, but the others? Don't think many were interested in them. There were rumours Barca liked Sanchez, Foyth & PSG but that's all they were. Rumours. No disrespect as Vic was immense in his 1st season and others have contributed to some degree.

I guess what I'm trying to say that is something just isn't right. It's like we only buy players where there is very little competition. This worries me as there is no reason why we can't tempt a Werner, Brandt, Wan Bassaka, Tierney, Diawara etc. We spend a lot of time "scouting" and "consider" making a bid but nothing fucking happens, unless there's little or no competition. We've even shown players around our training centre but they still don't sign.

We need to be a bit more aggressive (could've got Sancho if we were), whether that be by "tapping" players up on the sly (everyone else does), paying agents a bit more or even employing someone to get transfers over the line. For the most part of his reign, Levy has operated with a Director of Football. Yes, some transfers didn't work out but quite a lot of others did. Maybe Levy deals with a transfer as a business deal but there are other aspects e.g. agents, selling the club/vision etc, and maybe this is where he struggles?

I understand Poch wants control over the transfers but we need someone other than Levy to get the deals done. Otherwise, we can look forward to the Grealish's of this world. No disrespect to him but don't think anyone else was in for him last year either. We should be aiming higher.

Mindless and meaningless rant over!!

We won't pay agent fees. Therefore the minute a player's agent turns around and demands more out of the deal we walk away.

JJ has said previously that we get screwed around by agents and they're not the type of deals we do. Problem is if you want to eat at the big table you need to make these compromises. As much as that sucks.

 

[heelspurs]

Always seems to come up with left footed players for some reason. He’s not one footed, he’s just left footed.

I saw someone mention in the 'missing' thread that @tiger666 hadn't been around. Someone mentioned disparaging Levy at his Bat signal. Well, you've just happened upon another one. But i totally agree with you in that Lefties tend to be real left-footed. It's like their brain doesn't even register they have a right side.

 

[Lighty64]

This post probably more than any other sums up the difference between us. You think Liverpool’s spending has got them nowhere if they don’t win the CL or PL. I completely disagree. Regardless of whether they win either they are genuinely challenging for both. We haven’t been in a genuine challenge for the league since 1985. Spending guarantees nothing but spending nothing guarantees failure. You seem very happy with this state of affairs as you continue to repeat your financial illiteracy with nonsense like no spending until the stadium is “paid off”. I’m not happy with this, I’d much rather be in Liverpool’s shoes of having a go even if they ultimately fail rather than our risk first approach of not even trying because we might not succeed.

so if they finish 2nd, what difference will it be to the season we finished 2nd? (which wasn't 1985, and 87 was the season we should of done it) bar we only made the semi's of the FA Cup, but due to playing the poorest preforming Bayern Munich team for decades, and getting the easiest draw they will most probably make the semi's this season of the CL.

Liverpool won titles and cups through out the 70's and 80's, and have a stadium that was so much bigger than our till last season. this season we had a bigger stadium, but lower crowds. the merchandise they sell world wide, and you only have to look at the crowd on TV, it's a sea of red. what don't you understand about the difference in the size of the clubs. Liverpool have had a structure in place, we had a 36k stadium (31k final season).

I like you would love to compete, but the only way to do that under todays finances City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool was to increase our stadium. we have managed to finish in the top 3 for 3 seasons running under a very tight budget, because we have just built a stadium. a stadium that has been built due to ENIC. That was a project that was well underway way before Poch came along. we have had 3 seasons of not finding the right players when we have bought. you blame ENIC/Levy, but perhaps Poch is to blame. not having a DoF is most probably not helping. Levy had too much on his plate this summer and perhaps having a DoF might of been a massive help, but Poch doesn't want 1.

1 thing I don't know whether you understand, when ENIC took over, it was at the time when Leeds did what they did. there is no way in hell Levy was going to do the same, yet we have seen a massive (not small) improvement. yes I agree 19 years is way too long, 1 trophy is pathetic (Liverpool haven't won much in the last 10 either) but they don't have the debt. if you really think we would ever of truly been able to compete in the old stadium, then you are living in coocoo land. no way would we ever be able to afford to pay a player like Kane 200k a week. no way would we of ever seen the profit we made last season playing at Wembley.

a few years ago there was rumour that the TV money we see today, would start to go the other way. if we start spending money with the debt we have now and the TV money does disappear we will be in the shit. the funny thing is because we need to, I believe we will spend this summer, I also will be shocked if we don't spend 40-50m more than we bring in. Levy knows how important CL is, but I definitely don't expect us to be pushing 100-200m and risking it, because I don't believe we have that money to risk.

 

[LeParisien]

You missed Alli. Was this strategic or accidental?

As @wrd said (thank you), Dele joined before which is why I said Sept 2015.

Most links between clubs and players are rumours. In fact they all are unless the player and club says otherwise. Either we accept widely reported rumours, in which case most of those players were in demand, or we don’t, in which case we have almost no knowledge of how in demand players are.

Not sure what you mean. My point was that since Sept 2015 we seem to sign 1st team players not on anyone else's radar but none of them have been overly successful.

How do you know these players are rated by poch ?

I don't but JJ and trix said we tried for Werner but unsurprisingly he was too expensive. I think you'd have to be a poor judge of player not to rate the others so think Poch would rate them. Whether they fit into our price range or playing style is another matter. I think most would agree that they would definitely strengthen us.

Why do you think it is Levy’s fault rather than anyone else’s ?

Where did I say that? We all have our strengths and weaknesses and maybe transfers isn't one of Levy's? I suggested that he should probably get someone to assist on this side.

The point I was trying to make, is that since Poch and Levy became in charge of transfers, we haven't signed many to improve us and seem to only buy cast offs or those which don't interest anyone else. This is what needs to change.

1) You’re absolutely right and I’m sorry for suggesting you had ulterior motives. That was wrong.

2) I mean that you have no idea which players are the subject of interest from other clubs. @Ben1 got it.

3) Poch wants a specific type of player and we’ve not managed to bring those in. My reading of the evidence is that Poch does not want us to take a punt on players. Either they are perfect or we use what we’ve got. The problem at the moment is that the market is grossly inflated and there is very little value. And we’ve got a significant amount of deadwood we are struggling to shift.

I don’t think we have a clear idea why Werner did not come and we probably never will.

4) if your point is that Poch and Levy’s strategy is not delivering then fair enough. Reality is we must sell. We cannot have 4 right backs or 3 left backs. I’m not supportive of a policy that pays Aurier to stay at home and beat his fiancée. We could sign a CM and I hope we will.

I think it was Hercules who suggested we weren’t going in for Ndombele last year because of concerns over how risky he was in possession around his own box. That always struck me as odd but leads me to one of two conclusions:
1) Our scouting department is deficient, at least in France where we supposedly have greatest expertise.
2) Even itk cannot reliably shed light on who we are interested in.

 

[Hakkz]

Just a heads up for the Spain vs Norway game in under an hour. Sander Berge is out injured I believe, but Martin Odegaard is starting. I don’t think we’ve been linked, but he’s been superb in the Eredivisie this season. If Eriksen does indeed go to Madrid, I wouldn’t be against Odegaard being part of the deal.

Another to keep an eye on is Ajer at CB. The young Celtic defender is highly rated.

Ödegåård has been linked to Ajax, buy not loan.