Player watch: Christian Eriksen

dtxspurs · Jan 28, 2019

Looks like we're going through another window of adding zero players. I can't begin to fathom what next summer could look like with Toby & Eriksen on their way out potentially. Although the bittersweet part is that we'd have money to spend

Colonel Dax · Jan 28, 2019

dtxspurs said:
Looks like we're going through another window of adding zero players. I can't begin to fathom what next summer could look like with Toby & Eriksen on their way out potentially. Although the bittersweet part is that we'd have money to spend

£25m for Toby and say, £75m for Eriksen. Doesn't buy you much nowadays sadly. Maybe one decent CM/AM, and a young CB prospect but then we'll probably still baulk at the prices/wages/agents' fees.

DFF · Jan 28, 2019

We will have to replace Toby and Eriksen like for like (yeah right) just to get back to where we are now as a squad. Scary thought.

St José Dominguez · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
We will have to replace Toby and Eriksen like for like (yeah right) just to get back to where we are now as a squad. Scary thought.

To be perfectly honest the best we can hope for is an Eriksen/Isco swap deal, replace Toby with Foyth and hope he keeps stepping up. Then use the Toby money, the Trippier money (my wish) plus whatever else we manage to raise to buy a class CM. That way there’s a small chance we could be half a percent better off.

Much more likely though is we can’t get the quality we need and end up spending the money on a decent Eriksen replacement and a decent CM but overall as a team we are not as good, much like when Walker left. Our way of working at the minute is textbook gradual regression.

rio bryan · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
We will have to replace Toby and Eriksen like for like (yeah right) just to get back to where we are now as a squad. Scary thought.

Do we need to buy a replacement for Toby when we have Sanchez, Foyth and Dier all Right sided cb's ? why would we need 4 right centre backs ?

dtxspurs · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
We will have to replace Toby and Eriksen like for like (yeah right) just to get back to where we are now as a squad. Scary thought.

Even if you replace them with younger, big potential players like Pablo Fornals (rumored 30mil release clause) and Joachim Anderson at CB or the leftie from Espanyol, that doesn't leave much cash left for CM, DM, LB, RB & backup striker... So many positions to upgrade, so little ambition.

joelstinton14 · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
We will have to replace Toby and Eriksen like for like (yeah right) just to get back to where we are now as a squad. Scary thought.

I think Sanchez and Foyth have been brought in as long term replacements for both Toby and Jan. That was my take on it when we signed them anyhow. Perhaps Sanchez was brought in as we seemed to maybe play three at the back. But i think we're covered there.

dtxspurs · Jan 28, 2019

joelstinton14 said:
I think Sanchez and Foyth have been brought in as long term replacements for both Toby and Jan. That was my take on it when we signed them anyhow. Perhaps Sanchez was brought in as we seemed to maybe play three at the back. But i think we're covered there.

Still need cover/competition/rotation for those guys.

St José Dominguez · Jan 28, 2019

dtxspurs said:
Even if you replace them with younger, big potential players like Pablo Fornals (rumored 30mil release clause) and Joachim Anderson at CB or the leftie from Espanyol, that doesn't leave much cash left for CM, DM, LB, RB & backup striker... So many positions to upgrade, so little ambition.

Not many teams have an absolutely perfect squad though. For now i think we can get away with Davies as backup LB to Rose. I still have some hope KWP can step up and we can cash in on Trippier to add to budget with Aurier competing with KWP.
Regarding Toby if you’re going to bring in young CBs you need it to follow a path, I think Foyth should take his spot and maybe try and bring in a CB similar price to what Foyth cost and he takes 4/5th choice CB spot.

The rest I’d go along with though, I think it is vital we bring in a CM and a DM (replacing Wanyama) and also a backup forward to replace Llorente. Along with of course Eriksens replacement. Even signing just those 4 players as a bare minimum is impossible to see the way we’re going about things.

DFF · Jan 28, 2019

rio bryan said:
Do we need to buy a replacement for Toby when we have Sanchez, Foyth and Dier all Right sided cb's ? why would we need 4 right centre backs ?

joelstinton14 said:
I think Sanchez and Foyth have been brought in as long term replacements for both Toby and Jan. That was my take on it when we signed them anyhow. Perhaps Sanchez was brought in as we seemed to maybe play three at the back. But i think we're covered there.

I agree that seems to be our plan. But it doesn’t change the fact that losing Toby will weaken our squad. Those two are not his level yet, and who is going to replace them in the rotation.

St José Dominguez · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
I agree that seems to be our plan. But it doesn’t change the fact that losing Toby will weaken our squad. Those two are not his level yet, and who is going to replace them in the rotation.

My hope is if Eriksen is definitely off the club feel from a pr persepective they can’t lose both and manage to agree a new contract. In terms of our CBs it would work so nicely considering the age of Jan and Toby that Sanchez and Foyth gradually take over and become our new CB pairing. With them being 22 and 21 respectively I feel it’s still a year or two too soon for that.

DFF · Jan 28, 2019

I don’t want to get too bogged down with Toby, it being the Eriksen thread. But...the point is we’d be treading water just replacing Eriksen and Toby, never mind actually strengthening the squad like we all know we need to.

This is what happens when you stagnate in the market. Your positions of need start to pile up and you’ve no chance of addressing them all in a single window. This summer is going to be frightening unless our modus operandi changes.

St José Dominguez · Jan 28, 2019

DFF said:
I don’t want to get too bogged down with Toby, it being the Eriksen thread. But...the point is we’d be treading water just replacing Eriksen and Toby, never mind actually strengthening the squad like we all know we need to.

This is what happens when you stagnate in the market. Your positions of need start to pile up and you’ve no chance of addressing them all in a single window. This summer is going to be frightening unless our modus operandi changes.

It’s why it’s reckless not geting ahead of the game now and either replacing Dembele or bringing in a backup DM or a backup forward. Considering it’s shorter transfer windows in summer now too we’re going to simply have far too much to do.

Thread subject wise, Eriksen is the heartbeat of this team. I think it’ll be a miracle coming close to replacing him on an individual basis so you have to be clever by adding a baller of a CM to help with creativity of the team and a goal threat type forward. Add both and collectively the team isn’t worse off.

wrd · Jan 28, 2019

Colonel Dax said:
£25m for Toby and say, £75m for Eriksen. Doesn't buy you much nowadays sadly. Maybe one decent CM/AM, and a young CB prospect but then we'll probably still baulk at the prices/wages/agents' fees.

I reckon we already signed the CB prospects we will be using to replace Toby.

Ghost Hardware · Jan 28, 2019

wrd said:
I reckon we already signed the CB prospects we will be using to replace Toby.

I guess to be fair, if we went out and bought another starting CB to replace Toby then Foyth would go back to fourth choice. I’m not sure why he would want to stay in that case. The only thing that would make sense is if we get a young left footed CB who will eventually take over from Jan. I’m a big fan of foyth and although he is still learning the game and growing, I think he could be a really special player and would hate to loose him.

wrd · Jan 28, 2019

Ghost Hardware said:
I guess to be fair, if we went out and bought another starting CB to replace Toby then Foyth would go back to fourth choice. I’m not sure why he would want to stay in that case. The only thing that would make sense is if we get a young left footed CB who will eventually take over from Jan. I’m a big fan of foyth and although he is still learning the game and growing, I think he could be a really special player and would hate to loose him.

Im a bit concerned by Sanchez this season but I think after a nice long break he will come back fresh for pre-season. I think Foyth is a little further ahead of Sanchez personally, I think he needs a few more games to cut out some mistakes but generally I'd say CB isn't a position I'm concerned with even if Alder leaves. Having said that I'm desperate for him to stay but if he goes then I don't think CB is glowing red for me and I'm with you, a decent left footed prospect would be a bonus.

Jaddas · Jan 28, 2019

I think the problem we can all see happening is that we wouldn't spend the money properly if Eriksen is sold and would go backwards.

This happens to Dortmund regularly but they have a clear vision and strategy in the transfer market. They sold Aubamayang (sp) in Jan 2018 for £60m and Dembele in summer 2017. They were both the best players at the time. This has happened to them regularly over the years e.g. Lewandowski, Gotze etc. However, they seem to recover most of the time and are now top of their league by 6 points.

They invest in good quality young players and when they lose someone in a certain position, they know who to buy to replace them with.

We don't have a bloody clue. We've lost Mousa, but have we identified a replacement? Doesn't have to be like for like. What is going to happen if Eriksen goes? Probably the same as before. Nothing.

There's just no succession planning. Just bank the money and muddle through.

doctor stefan Freud · Jan 28, 2019

Jaddas said:
I think the problem we can see happening is that we wouldn't spend the money properly if Eriksen is sold and would go backwards.

This happens to Dortmund regularly but they have a clear vision and strategy in the transfer market. They sold Aubamayang (sp) in Jan 2018 for £60m and Dembele in summer 2017. They were both the best players at the time. This has happened to them regularly over the years e.g. Lewandowski, Gotze etc. However, they seem to recover most of the time and are now top of their league by 6 points.

They invest in good quality young players and when they lose someone in a certain position, they know who to buy to replace them with.

We don't have a bloody clue. We've lost Mousa, but have we identified a replacement? Doesn't have to be like for like. What is going to happen if Eriksen goes? Probably the same as before. Nothing.

There's just no succession planning. Just bank the money and muddle on.

Thanks for shitting on my window

Ron Burgundy · Jan 28, 2019

Jaddas said:
I think the problem we can see happening is that we wouldn't spend the money properly if Eriksen is sold and would go backwards.

This happens to Dortmund regularly but they have a clear vision and strategy in the transfer market. They sold Aubamayang (sp) in Jan 2018 for £60m and Dembele in summer 2017. They were both the best players at the time. This has happened to them regularly over the years e.g. Lewandowski, Gotze etc. However, they seem to recover most of the time and are now top of their league by 6 points.

They invest in good quality young players and when they lose someone in a certain position, they know who to buy to replace them with.

We don't have a bloody clue. We've lost Mousa, but have we identified a replacement? Doesn't have to be like for like. What is going to happen if Eriksen goes? Probably the same as before. Nothing.

There's just no succession planning. Just bank the money and muddle on.

I could hardly agree with this more - there just seems to be no forward planning on transfers at all.

The Mourneview Ace · Jan 28, 2019

I’d be amazed if Foyth isn’t Toby’s replacement. Although he might stay. Pls. Pls stay toby

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